WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.220 --> 00:00:12.389 Karen Tarapata: Okay. Good evening. This is a workshop meeting of the upper Nyack Village Board of Trustees, it is 2 00:00:12.450 --> 00:00:21.630 Karen Tarapata: October 22 workshop meetings do not have an agenda and no actions of the board are taken. 3 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:26.100 Karen Tarapata: That said, we have a number of topics we're going to talk about tonight but 4 00:00:27.210 --> 00:00:29.580 Karen Tarapata: It's very informal 5 00:00:30.630 --> 00:00:34.380 Karen Tarapata: So we're talking with God. We can just start with 6 00:00:35.490 --> 00:00:39.180 Karen Tarapata: No parking on North Broadway we we talked about that a little bit last 7 00:00:40.470 --> 00:00:51.360 Karen Tarapata: Week, and I think it's sort of deciding if we are going to set a public hearing it is sort of discussing timing and our feelings about it. 8 00:00:54.630 --> 00:01:12.960 Ken Rothchild: Well I, I think, as you know, from what I said in our last at our official meeting that you know if you drive along north Broadway and take a look at each and every single access to North Broadway from a private property out of the, I would say. 9 00:01:14.040 --> 00:01:24.900 Ken Rothchild: 16 to 20 properties that have a direct you know driveway access to North Broadway. There's only one where you would have trouble fitting 10 00:01:25.740 --> 00:01:39.150 Ken Rothchild: More than four cars. So you know the the complaints we've mostly received as far as I can tell her about people to say, but I want to visit and arc on North Broadway to go visit and I just feel that that's 11 00:01:41.790 --> 00:01:46.500 Ken Rothchild: You know, a problem. And, you know, listen, I, I've been riding my bike on North Broadway. 12 00:01:47.820 --> 00:01:49.920 Ken Rothchild: Every day this month and 13 00:01:51.240 --> 00:01:56.640 Ken Rothchild: You know, even with the lawn services. You know, I had a lawn service parked their truck. 14 00:01:57.930 --> 00:02:03.660 Ken Rothchild: And then he drove his lawn mower thing at least three properties. Further down 15 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:09.510 Ken Rothchild: You know, to, to do whatever worker was and then they move the truck. Again, it's like 16 00:02:11.040 --> 00:02:17.310 Ken Rothchild: It's a bit of a wild west, in a sense, and I think, you know, listen, you have this big property, you have these 17 00:02:18.510 --> 00:02:21.840 Ken Rothchild: These folks come into work for you park them on your property. 18 00:02:24.060 --> 00:02:31.320 Karen Tarapata: And no, no, what other people think any kind of exemptions for commercial 19 00:02:32.730 --> 00:02:34.680 Karen Tarapata: during the workday over 20 00:02:38.130 --> 00:02:51.420 Laurie Dodge: I don't know. I'm kind of with Ken I mean I know it, I know it might be onerous for some of those landscapers, but I do feel in a similar way that I feel about the cars I it's 21 00:02:52.500 --> 00:03:03.150 Laurie Dodge: Kind of feel like me to be a little to me to be a little bit of the Wild West. And I feel like the trucks get bigger and bigger, their trailers get bigger and bigger. They take up more and more space. 22 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:10.740 Laurie Dodge: And their, you know, their cars because now what I see happening is that the landscapers don't all 23 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:19.890 Laurie Dodge: And I'm not picking on the on the landscapers, even though it's but now it's like they have the drop the trailer 24 00:03:20.130 --> 00:03:32.850 Laurie Dodge: And they have cars because they all know bring they they don't all fit in the truck, because they have so many equipment that they're running that they don't all fit in the one truck that that come up a trailer, so I'm 25 00:03:34.290 --> 00:03:46.590 Laurie Dodge: Getting a little frustrated. It just seems to be like the multiplier effect with vehicles on on Broadway. I guess on Midland to and we've heard about that a little bit, it just it. Yeah. 26 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:51.360 Karen Tarapata: Living Midland el se as much wider. It's actually wider than Broadway. 27 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:59.070 Laurie Dodge: Yeah, so I mean I'd be inclined to support no parking. That's how I kind of feel about it. 28 00:03:59.940 --> 00:04:09.840 Ken Rothchild: Well, and I would say that Midland also doesn't have quite the the traffic as North Broadway because Midland doesn't lead to the hook. That's true. 29 00:04:10.260 --> 00:04:11.190 Laurie Dodge: Right, let's turn 30 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:12.930 sylviajeff: I think that's a key thing, I think, 31 00:04:13.980 --> 00:04:15.900 sylviajeff: To me Broadway is are 32 00:04:16.950 --> 00:04:23.580 sylviajeff: A key thoroughfare, not just for usage, but for the feeling you get for our neighborhood. 33 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:46.710 sylviajeff: And I think that it's used by pedestrians dog walkers people with on bicycles, you know, 10 men otherwise people pushing baby carriages just walkers and the whole field is changed. If you start living people pop on Broadway. So I would certainly leaned against it for almost all uses 34 00:04:47.820 --> 00:04:55.650 sylviajeff: I'm open to discussing, you know, people who need to because of their business, maybe, you know, I guess when somebody does the landscaping stuff. 35 00:04:56.010 --> 00:05:07.200 sylviajeff: I assume that they're not there for more than maybe an hour or something. But generally speaking, that's, to me, a thoroughfare. That should be a no parking thoroughfare, generally speaking. 36 00:05:09.540 --> 00:05:11.640 Karen Tarapata: That would be really hard to 37 00:05:12.930 --> 00:05:19.290 Karen Tarapata: monitor how long somebody was there without parking meters. 38 00:05:20.700 --> 00:05:21.210 Laurie Dodge: Well, and 39 00:05:22.140 --> 00:05:38.340 Laurie Dodge: The monitoring point, you know, this is all a moot point if our if our trusty enforcement officer doesn't do his job, you know, I mean, if we have all these laws and there's nobody upholding law, then we shouldn't. You know, why waste our time. So we have 40 00:05:39.330 --> 00:05:43.710 Karen Tarapata: Parking we can call specifically, the police will come. Specifically, if you 41 00:05:43.710 --> 00:05:44.190 Call 42 00:05:45.210 --> 00:06:03.450 Karen Tarapata: And I've been doing a lot of this. I've had a lot of discussions with the county personnel and it appears that in assistant building inspector, I might have told you to stop me if I did an assistant building inspector can enforce our local laws. 43 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:20.340 Karen Tarapata: So we can get a we could hire a system building inspector and they would be able to be do code enforcement of our local laws that's allowed 44 00:06:22.830 --> 00:06:32.700 sylviajeff: Let me ask you something. Is it um can you actually took the time to check out a lot of the people living on Broadway, where we're talking about 45 00:06:33.570 --> 00:06:48.690 sylviajeff: Their properties. Is it like a problem to have the people come along to do the landscaping talk on their on their properties because what I see, for the most part, is they have pretty expensive driveways. 46 00:06:49.920 --> 00:07:09.390 Ken Rothchild: But yes, they do extensive driveways. The, the part of the problem is that some of those driveways lead down to properties that are along the river, you know, and in flag lot type situations or something. So, you know, you know, in a, in a sense, it'd be great to have them Park. 47 00:07:10.440 --> 00:07:17.940 Ken Rothchild: You know their vehicles on properties. There's probably somewhere that's particularly on the western side of North Broadway. 48 00:07:18.390 --> 00:07:26.670 Ken Rothchild: Those properties don't have quite the extensive driveway situation as those on the eastern side. But even on the eastern side, you know, you 49 00:07:27.390 --> 00:07:38.070 Ken Rothchild: You're to park your truck on the driveway. Basically, no one's moving along that driveway until they're done so that there's some I have some, some, you know, 50 00:07:40.260 --> 00:07:49.140 Ken Rothchild: Some sympathy for the idea that there might be exceptions for for landscaping or other sort of commercial work. 51 00:07:50.340 --> 00:07:52.290 Ken Rothchild: Particularly since we're in a village where 52 00:07:53.310 --> 00:08:00.840 Ken Rothchild: You know, other properties, say in our own neighborhood, you know, we have commercial, you know, right now we have a lot of commercial work. 53 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:12.210 Ken Rothchild: Home Improvement stuff going on. And people moving their vehicles around and the workers and there are necessary vehicles. I mean, it creates it creates an issue. 54 00:08:14.760 --> 00:08:27.360 Ken Rothchild: That being said, that is the major complaints that we receive when we sort of first proposed closing North broad, you know, or prohibiting parking North Broadway. We're not from commercial ventures, but from 55 00:08:28.320 --> 00:08:36.840 Ken Rothchild: A you know private citizens who basically wanted to park on North Broadway before walking towards you know going to someone's home to visit and 56 00:08:37.860 --> 00:08:38.610 Ken Rothchild: That 57 00:08:39.990 --> 00:08:46.140 Ken Rothchild: Yeah, but that's what they were, you know, there's one day said well we have family, and they all want to drop by. And what happens when the other. I said, 58 00:08:47.160 --> 00:08:59.700 Ken Rothchild: What I said to myself, you can do what I've we've done when we've gone and visited our cousins in Westport, Connecticut, you know, you have seven cars in the driveway and someone's boxed in and someone has to go out and move their car. 59 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:01.320 Ken Rothchild: Oh my 60 00:09:02.520 --> 00:09:02.880 Karen Tarapata: I knew 61 00:09:04.410 --> 00:09:14.760 Karen Tarapata: I was going to events at a friend's house on old mountain road and we all fit in his driveway, because nobody was gonna park on old code right 62 00:09:14.820 --> 00:09:21.780 Ken Rothchild: Yeah, yeah, you would want to do that anyway so you know with with fo, r. Nothing there anymore. There's sort of no longer have 63 00:09:22.980 --> 00:09:24.630 Ken Rothchild: A reason to kind of allow 64 00:09:25.770 --> 00:09:33.060 Ken Rothchild: Those sort of kind of gatherings of cars on the street. And I think that that's something to think about. I you know i'm i'm 65 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:55.440 Karen Tarapata: Could we do an event exemption, could we create a specific event exception if somebody's going to have a, you know, an event at their house and they wanted a one day or four hour eight hour sampling, but not more than you know one twice a year or something, so we don't get people just 66 00:09:55.710 --> 00:10:07.320 Ken Rothchild: Yeah I you know it's interesting because I don't know if there's something on the books and perhaps I should. But I know that for instance here on Ellen street when we've had 67 00:10:08.760 --> 00:10:23.370 Ken Rothchild: With family visiting more cars than our poor for car driveway. If you can imagine such a thing. Like, can you imagine that that we can actually fit for cars in our graduate course in our driver course what it to have them have to be mini Coopers but 68 00:10:23.460 --> 00:10:23.790 Um, 69 00:10:25.290 --> 00:10:25.590 Ken Rothchild: But 70 00:10:25.740 --> 00:10:26.430 Laurie Dodge: one's the best 71 00:10:28.350 --> 00:10:28.710 Ken Rothchild: Oh, 72 00:10:29.160 --> 00:10:37.650 Ken Rothchild: No, it's but there none of them are, you know, Escalades. Let me put it that way. So, um, but, you know, we've sometimes had bore 73 00:10:38.550 --> 00:10:57.180 Ken Rothchild: Cars and could fit and we've gone to village hall and gotten Carol to give us sort of a, an overnight parking pass for people who are staying overnight so um you know if that's permissible in in our neighborhood in that sort of way. Maybe we can make 74 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:08.070 Ken Rothchild: If it's not on the books. Maybe that's part of the exemptions that we'd make on a parking that you know permit parking for events limited to certain amount of time or whatever. 75 00:11:08.820 --> 00:11:17.370 Karen Tarapata: To my knowledge, it's, there's nothing in the general ordinance about that. I think it's more of an informal arrangement with the class town PD. 76 00:11:17.760 --> 00:11:38.220 Karen Tarapata: Right, I'm reading or 2.2 here and really is basically straightforward and the section that we're looking at to to amend is no vehicle should be parked or left standing at any of the following locations and then it just list everything from large Dale to Ellen Street to Paxman green 77 00:11:39.450 --> 00:11:45.510 Karen Tarapata: You know, Daisy street cedar, it's a it's a real straightforward list and we could just add 78 00:11:50.910 --> 00:11:54.420 Karen Tarapata: North Broadway and we'd have to decide exactly how to designate 79 00:11:55.740 --> 00:12:16.530 Karen Tarapata: A you know the old stone Meeting House or the driveway of summit school because you know the school. Well, the still need parking on that side. But it's, I think that's going to be the trickiest part is determining how to designate the end of the parking zone. 80 00:12:17.880 --> 00:12:24.210 Ken Rothchild: Well we we do on North Broadway. I think it's designated no parking to just 81 00:12:24.900 --> 00:12:25.200 Have 82 00:12:26.550 --> 00:12:30.360 Ken Rothchild: All the schoolhouse. So the old stone meeting house. 83 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:30.690 So, 84 00:12:32.100 --> 00:12:36.240 Karen Tarapata: Up north on the exit of the driveway of summit school. Yeah. 85 00:12:36.390 --> 00:12:38.040 Ken Rothchild: So I think, you know, you 86 00:12:38.820 --> 00:12:40.110 Ken Rothchild: You just it 87 00:12:40.170 --> 00:12:51.480 Ken Rothchild: To TO EXTEND THE PARKING BAN and north part Broadway would be relatively simple designation, from that point down to what is it Lexile that we are 88 00:12:51.990 --> 00:12:55.320 Karen Tarapata: We just combine those two and then just 89 00:12:55.380 --> 00:12:59.970 Karen Tarapata: You know, brought no parking. From there, all the way to the end via knows 90 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:01.260 michael esmay: The hook 91 00:13:02.790 --> 00:13:05.670 Karen Tarapata: Line. I went to the UK. Yeah, all the way to the book. 92 00:13:06.150 --> 00:13:11.250 sylviajeff: I get the feeling that it will be easy to do this to say no parking 93 00:13:12.180 --> 00:13:21.990 sylviajeff: We've allowed assumptions on request for X number of hours on a certain date. I think the crux of the any difficulty will be and how we handle things like 94 00:13:22.830 --> 00:13:38.550 sylviajeff: landscapers and stuff like that. So make it. I don't know if you can make a commercial one hour plugin allowance or something like that. I think you indicated Kevin that that's not enforceable. So that's the part I think we have to work. 95 00:13:38.580 --> 00:13:41.460 Karen Tarapata: With know when they started the guy would say, I just got here. 96 00:13:41.640 --> 00:13:42.990 Karen Tarapata: You know what I mean, like, unless 97 00:13:42.990 --> 00:13:48.510 Karen Tarapata: Somebody had a timestamp photo. Hey, I haven't been here an hour. I literally just pulled up 98 00:13:49.980 --> 00:14:04.980 sylviajeff: I don't really think I, I don't really think they stay there longer than they need to be there. Anyway, I think they'd like to get the heck out of there. So whatever that timeframe is the question is do we want to allow that as an exemption. Yeah. 99 00:14:05.010 --> 00:14:25.800 Karen Tarapata: I would say no because more likely, someone would come and go before anyone would really complain. And at this point, we are responding to written complaints, you know, as we move forward that may change when we actually have someone in the village to rapidly handle complaints. 100 00:14:26.670 --> 00:14:31.980 Ken Rothchild: Yeah, I would say, maybe we just make it a carte blanche no parking and then 101 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:37.350 Ken Rothchild: If issues arise with that with landscapers or others don't address it. 102 00:14:38.400 --> 00:14:42.570 Ken Rothchild: from that direction as opposed to trying to build exemptions in ahead of time. 103 00:14:43.470 --> 00:14:44.940 sylviajeff: I'm okay with that. Yeah. 104 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:48.000 Karen Tarapata: If we were going to give exemptions for 105 00:14:48.000 --> 00:15:00.270 Karen Tarapata: People who have events at their house and want to ask for it. What do you think's a reasonable length of time. Is it for hours, eight hours six hours. 106 00:15:02.820 --> 00:15:03.210 Ken Rothchild: Well, 107 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:06.660 michael esmay: I think could be 12 hours. 108 00:15:07.230 --> 00:15:12.630 Ken Rothchild: Yeah, but I think you could leave it open ended in that sense. I'm 109 00:15:13.680 --> 00:15:27.690 Ken Rothchild: Justin needs to be applied for and perhaps and perhaps approved by us, by, you know, you have to come in, you know, either we either leave at the discretion of the village clerk or we leave it at the discretion of the board. I guess I'm not sure which 110 00:15:28.950 --> 00:15:33.630 Karen Tarapata: Probably the discussion developed because we don't need that frequently where we can take actions. 111 00:15:33.810 --> 00:15:34.110 Ken Rothchild: Yeah, I 112 00:15:34.620 --> 00:15:42.030 Karen Tarapata: Think the idea of making it no more than twice a year at an address would take care of the have any habitual problem. 113 00:15:43.350 --> 00:15:44.400 michael esmay: That's more important. 114 00:15:48.090 --> 00:15:49.470 michael esmay: There's going to be a wedding, there's 115 00:15:49.470 --> 00:15:51.630 michael esmay: Gonna be some other occasion. 116 00:15:53.430 --> 00:15:56.130 michael esmay: Generate a bunch of cars, but it doesn't happen that often. 117 00:15:56.820 --> 00:16:01.290 Ken Rothchild: No, no, it's really just sort of the random cars and the landscapers that 118 00:16:01.380 --> 00:16:03.960 Ken Rothchild: Tend to block up north Broadway so 119 00:16:04.500 --> 00:16:07.470 Karen Tarapata: That's right and tear up the end and tear up the 120 00:16:08.430 --> 00:16:09.780 Karen Tarapata: Media the right way. 121 00:16:10.260 --> 00:16:11.640 sylviajeff: Yeah yeah 122 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:25.530 Karen Tarapata: Great. Okay. So, well, Carolina, and I will put together the language to put in the public hearing. Notice, and then we'll run it by you, before we send it to the paper. 123 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:34.050 Ken Rothchild: And so will so obviously we'll have to set a we have to buy a vote of us set a special 124 00:16:35.220 --> 00:16:37.290 Karen Tarapata: Know we set it for the next regular meeting. 125 00:16:37.860 --> 00:16:38.760 Ken Rothchild: ID way for parking 126 00:16:39.930 --> 00:16:49.590 Karen Tarapata: Oh no you're right. We could do that we could actually wait, you're absolutely correct, that we could wait and do that in a month or we could have a special meeting at our workshop next month. 127 00:16:52.680 --> 00:17:01.740 Ken Rothchild: It doesn't matter, I think. I mean, I don't think it's that critical that we have to move that fast. I'd say we just wait till our next regular meeting to set a special hearing on it. 128 00:17:02.370 --> 00:17:05.010 Karen Tarapata: Okay, we'll set the public hearing in November. 129 00:17:06.120 --> 00:17:12.150 Karen Tarapata: Okay, we'll see how that goes. Alright, next thing is a fire pit issue. 130 00:17:12.180 --> 00:17:13.050 Karen Tarapata: Three points are 131 00:17:13.590 --> 00:17:18.420 Karen Tarapata: What did you think of the idea of just adding the exemptions that the state. 132 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:28.350 Karen Tarapata: Gives for people to have a little barbecue, right now, you know, if you my, my little 133 00:17:29.910 --> 00:17:34.140 Karen Tarapata: wood burning Apache would be illegal, but 134 00:17:36.090 --> 00:17:38.190 Ken Rothchild: I'm sending the police just want you to know. 135 00:17:39.510 --> 00:17:43.620 Karen Tarapata: It could happen. And I'm right next door to a retired firefighters. So, you know, 136 00:17:45.030 --> 00:17:47.790 Karen Tarapata: He likes the smell of it, which I think is great because 137 00:17:48.870 --> 00:17:52.560 Karen Tarapata: Every know someone could have, like, oh, no more, no more smoke don't smoke. 138 00:17:52.800 --> 00:17:53.880 michael esmay: Because he misses it 139 00:17:58.260 --> 00:17:58.620 Ken Rothchild: Is 140 00:17:59.790 --> 00:18:03.360 Ken Rothchild: The smell of burning private residences. Oh, I missed that smell. 141 00:18:03.750 --> 00:18:04.740 sylviajeff: Back to the good old days. 142 00:18:09.240 --> 00:18:11.100 Karen Tarapata: You know, obviously their fire. 143 00:18:11.820 --> 00:18:12.510 Karen Tarapata: The dumpster. 144 00:18:16.890 --> 00:18:27.030 Ken Rothchild: I mean, I think obviously having a, you know, the little fire pits that are can buy you can buy at Home Depot or Lowes or whatever is no big deal. You know, it's not 145 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:32.760 Ken Rothchild: And I don't even think that many people do it. I mean, some do but it's, you know, modest 146 00:18:33.270 --> 00:18:38.940 Karen Tarapata: I think more people are going to be doing it this year because of the fact we can only meet outdoors. 147 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:40.590 Ken Rothchild: Yeah, September. 148 00:18:41.580 --> 00:18:46.380 sylviajeff: Let me ask you to. So I understand this. Are we, is there going to be any differentiation between 149 00:18:46.950 --> 00:18:54.210 sylviajeff: Those 5% of salt standing and those that are, you know, sort of built in or built up by cinderblock or something. 150 00:18:55.350 --> 00:19:12.000 Karen Tarapata: I think as long as the fire is not directly on the ground. The, um, I think I sent it to you guys. What the State says pretty much covers it with the DC says pretty much covers it. They give very specific exemptions to the open fires law. 151 00:19:13.020 --> 00:19:16.080 Karen Tarapata: And let me see. I can always just find that again here. 152 00:19:24.780 --> 00:19:26.340 Laurie Dodge: Oh yeah you sent a link 153 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:30.210 Yes, yeah. 154 00:19:32.490 --> 00:19:33.420 Karen Tarapata: Here we go. 155 00:19:34.020 --> 00:19:39.780 sylviajeff: I think it's a note to be ignited any fire upon the streets. So I'm not sure what 156 00:19:39.960 --> 00:19:46.110 Karen Tarapata: Right. That's right. All right, here we go. Open burning is prohibited in New York with several except exceptions. 157 00:19:46.860 --> 00:20:06.330 Karen Tarapata: campfires less than three feet in height and four feet in length, width or diameter small cooking fires fires cannot be left unattended and must be fully extinguished only charcoal or clean untreated or unpainted blood can be burned ceremonial or celebratory bonfires are allowed. 158 00:20:09.330 --> 00:20:12.030 Karen Tarapata: But I think I'd leave out the celebratory bonfires 159 00:20:15.750 --> 00:20:18.690 Karen Tarapata: I wanted in a barrel or in a fire pit, you know, 160 00:20:19.710 --> 00:20:24.270 Karen Tarapata: So I'll leave that last one out, even though the state allows it. Let's just not 161 00:20:25.980 --> 00:20:29.040 Karen Tarapata: Encourage celebratory bonfires 162 00:20:30.420 --> 00:20:44.850 sylviajeff: Well, I think the idea being that we want to make it realistic for what's going on, generally. And to your point, certainly. These days it would be, it would be smart to open that up a little bit from wherever it currently stands sands. The a celebratory 163 00:20:47.760 --> 00:20:53.400 Laurie Dodge: Although I would really love to have one at river hook one day controlled, of course. 164 00:20:54.780 --> 00:20:58.230 Karen Tarapata: I think if we had a knife. We could have a nice burn barrel or something. 165 00:20:59.040 --> 00:21:09.090 Laurie Dodge: Yeah. Are some true, actually. They could probably create some sort of fire pit, if we if we chose to go that way, whatever. Yes I to I'm fine with the suggestion that we 166 00:21:10.170 --> 00:21:16.920 Laurie Dodge: incorporate those rules, minus the fire pit of the celebratory bonfire. 167 00:21:18.210 --> 00:21:27.030 Karen Tarapata: Okay, so, um, I'll write that up to pull that from the DC website and circulate that before we send it to the paper. 168 00:21:28.500 --> 00:21:29.430 Okay. 169 00:21:31.020 --> 00:21:31.740 Karen Tarapata: So I don't forget. 170 00:21:33.600 --> 00:21:37.410 Karen Tarapata: And then I'm on the other little things here is 171 00:21:40.020 --> 00:21:41.430 Karen Tarapata: The thing about the garbage. 172 00:21:43.800 --> 00:21:52.200 Karen Tarapata: We have a lot of saying you're not supposed to put the garbage can out for 6pm the night before that six verses here. 173 00:21:53.340 --> 00:21:58.740 Karen Tarapata: On 4.2 sugars and grains, no or 12 to 174 00:22:01.260 --> 00:22:17.550 Karen Tarapata: 6pm the day preceding the data collection and Mike and I were just chatting and saying, Well, maybe we don't necessarily want to say specify the exact time and you can put it out, but we can specify the exact time when you have to have it back in your house. 175 00:22:18.690 --> 00:22:30.990 Karen Tarapata: Like you put it out. We don't care if you put it out at five or six or whatever the day before we could just say the day before, but you have to have it. You can't leave it out all week. I think that's our main concern. 176 00:22:32.310 --> 00:22:33.060 Karen Tarapata: What do you think 177 00:22:33.390 --> 00:22:38.100 sylviajeff: I think it's a great idea because I've seen that I've seen garbage there for days on it. 178 00:22:40.980 --> 00:22:48.870 Karen Tarapata: Alright, so maybe it would be containers. So he plays Justin said curb line of premises and shall not be so placed 179 00:22:51.210 --> 00:23:00.720 Karen Tarapata: We say right now earlier than six o'clock on the day proceeding, the day of collection. So maybe we just say should be placed on the curb line of premises. 180 00:23:01.890 --> 00:23:11.010 Karen Tarapata: And the empty container shall be removed, not later than nine o'clock pm on the day of collection just skipped to them to bring him in. 181 00:23:13.500 --> 00:23:14.700 Karen Tarapata: It's still a little 182 00:23:17.460 --> 00:23:18.360 michael esmay: Nine o'clock. 183 00:23:21.030 --> 00:23:26.610 Karen Tarapata: But what do we say we are you okay just jumping over when it's okay to put them out or shall we say 184 00:23:27.090 --> 00:23:27.630 Karen Tarapata: I think we 185 00:23:27.810 --> 00:23:43.560 Laurie Dodge: Have I think we should keep when you can put them out because we also have neighbors who for some reason, despite the fact that recycling and garbage gets picked up on Monday. They insist on putting things out on Saturday. It's like, we know that this gets picked up on Monday. Oh. 186 00:23:44.550 --> 00:23:46.320 michael esmay: Say the Day, the day before. 187 00:23:46.650 --> 00:23:48.480 Karen Tarapata: The day. Well, just say the day before. 188 00:23:49.740 --> 00:23:57.780 Karen Tarapata: We put out the day before, and brought back and the receptacles brought back in by 9pm the night at the day of collection. 189 00:23:58.320 --> 00:23:59.250 Laurie Dodge: That works for me. 190 00:24:00.180 --> 00:24:03.540 Ken Rothchild: How about 6pm. How about 6pm the day of collection. 191 00:24:04.530 --> 00:24:06.420 Karen Tarapata: So I may never get home by until 192 00:24:06.420 --> 00:24:12.060 Karen Tarapata: Seven. I couldn't. If you weren't you know anybody who commuting you're not home till seven 193 00:24:12.690 --> 00:24:23.340 Laurie Dodge: And it also depends on when they pick it up so like we used to get picked up here both recycling and garbage like 530 quarter to six in the morning and 194 00:24:23.970 --> 00:24:28.080 Laurie Dodge: Night what I know, I know what you mean. But so then I could bring things in 195 00:24:28.110 --> 00:24:45.060 Laurie Dodge: Before I went to work and to your point, now they come later recycling comes later. And if I was going into work every day i wouldn't i don't get I wasn't getting home till 730 quarter to eight. So I wouldn't be able to to get them by six. 196 00:24:45.210 --> 00:24:48.180 sylviajeff: Yeah, I think we're going to make this illegal. 197 00:24:48.360 --> 00:24:48.900 Point. 198 00:24:50.310 --> 00:24:54.210 sylviajeff: People could be called out, we've got to make sure that they have time to get home from work. 199 00:24:55.020 --> 00:24:59.790 Ken Rothchild: Right, I might argue with you. But Hillary yelled from the other room that I was wrong. So there you go. 200 00:25:00.360 --> 00:25:02.700 sylviajeff: I feel it, you only recruit recuse yourself. 201 00:25:02.940 --> 00:25:03.840 michael esmay: I hear laughter 202 00:25:04.410 --> 00:25:05.460 sylviajeff: Yeah. And you heard 203 00:25:05.580 --> 00:25:12.660 Ken Rothchild: And you heard her laughing that she's been. All right, nine o'clock I have to stay married to her so 204 00:25:13.500 --> 00:25:16.740 Laurie Dodge: I mean, I don't like it either. But I just think depending on 205 00:25:16.740 --> 00:25:23.430 Laurie Dodge: When stuff gets picked up if you're leaving before it gets picked up and you don't have someone at home. There's no way to. Yeah. 206 00:25:23.520 --> 00:25:26.580 Ken Rothchild: I, I, I get it. I totally agree. It's fine. 207 00:25:29.430 --> 00:25:39.090 Karen Tarapata: Yeah, it just seems more we're just making it more in alignment. And since we're just trying to encourage people to put them out. 208 00:25:40.470 --> 00:25:41.760 Karen Tarapata: On the right day and 209 00:25:43.080 --> 00:25:43.350 Karen Tarapata: Hey, 210 00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:53.130 Karen Tarapata: Yeah. And then we have to try and do some more education. Oh, Carolyn, and I were talking today about putting together a little folder for new residents. 211 00:25:54.000 --> 00:26:01.590 Karen Tarapata: So when we know that somebody has bought a house. We can send them or put it on our website. That's it. Let's put a PDF on our website. 212 00:26:02.310 --> 00:26:22.500 Karen Tarapata: And just with just the basic information that a new resident would want to know trash pickup a winner. The you know once tax day just a bulk pick up what you can and can't put on the curb. Just some real basic stuff like a welcome wagon kind of stuff, but we haven't done 213 00:26:22.500 --> 00:26:22.890 sylviajeff: It in 214 00:26:22.950 --> 00:26:23.610 Karen Tarapata: 20 years 215 00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:32.730 Karen Tarapata: So if we put all TO GET TOGETHER THE SHEETS WE DO HAVE IN ONE PDF and put it on the website, we can direct new residents to that. 216 00:26:33.120 --> 00:26:42.150 Laurie Dodge: We cannot actually direct all residents, because I can't tell you how many times I get questions about hazardous waste and mostly the pickup on 217 00:26:42.510 --> 00:26:52.710 Laurie Dodge: Mondays, because that's when recycling is if there's a holiday. Well, what holidays doesn't get picked up on that and Carol always Carol or Jill. I see on Facebook. Always chimes in with 218 00:26:53.070 --> 00:26:53.310 Ken Rothchild: So, 219 00:26:53.760 --> 00:26:54.660 I always look 220 00:26:57.180 --> 00:26:57.660 michael esmay: I always look 221 00:26:59.040 --> 00:27:04.230 Ken Rothchild: I always look across the street of the deputy Mary mayor's house and and whenever he does. I do. 222 00:27:05.130 --> 00:27:05.910 Ken Rothchild: That's all I know. 223 00:27:07.170 --> 00:27:21.000 Ken Rothchild: Well, you know, speaking of hazardous waste. I mean Rockland County sends out annually. They're sort of hazardous waste. Notice, and it's, it may be. It's expensive and more expensive, though, we want to look at, but maybe 224 00:27:22.170 --> 00:27:27.450 Ken Rothchild: Like every two years, we want to send out a flyer to our own residents, old and new. 225 00:27:28.470 --> 00:27:42.720 Ken Rothchild: Some of these important things and and a physical one. Not just one online. I mean, obviously put it online, but um you know village wide mailing, we're not that big of a village that he did it every two years, sent out 226 00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:49.320 Ken Rothchild: Stuff, particularly when you're passing new laws, you know, he sent out a flyer this time saying 227 00:27:49.860 --> 00:28:09.120 Ken Rothchild: New laws and under a no parking in North Broadway, you know, change the, you know, whatever it is. So it's something I think we should think about for the future is sort of a regular notice of residents about what the rules are. You know shovel your walks and and 228 00:28:11.040 --> 00:28:11.340 Karen Tarapata: Yes. 229 00:28:12.960 --> 00:28:15.270 Ken Rothchild: Yeah, no. Exactly. And I, you know, 230 00:28:15.540 --> 00:28:27.090 Karen Tarapata: Maybe January. Maybe we could do something we could think of put something together and send it out in the new year, when people are done with the holidays and might be looking at their mail again. Yeah. 231 00:28:27.120 --> 00:28:32.400 Ken Rothchild: I mean you can be here 25 years and not have come across a rule and all sudden, it matters. So I think 232 00:28:34.740 --> 00:28:35.160 Ken Rothchild: It's better 233 00:28:35.790 --> 00:28:39.540 Karen Tarapata: To remind them to use to use the website if they lose the piece of paper. 234 00:28:39.660 --> 00:28:40.950 Ken Rothchild: Yeah yeah 235 00:28:43.350 --> 00:28:56.640 Karen Tarapata: Okay, that's pretty good. Um, let's talk about the Halloween signboard you know I did talk to Dr. Monsanto and the superintendent of schools. He made a combined 236 00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:05.970 Karen Tarapata: flyer of what Don Hammond said what I said. And he said, having it translated and he's sending it out to all the students 237 00:29:06.600 --> 00:29:15.420 Karen Tarapata: So they're all the parents are going to get that notification that we're not closing the streets and that trick or treating is not encouraged. 238 00:29:16.050 --> 00:29:22.770 Karen Tarapata: So I haven't heard back from Lieutenant Smith, if we even get assigned board. He wasn't sure there was one available. He was going to get back to me. 239 00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:31.830 Karen Tarapata: But I mean, what, when can you were suggesting local trick or treating me well we we don't have any regulation, like that. So we really can't. 240 00:29:33.180 --> 00:29:43.110 Ken Rothchild: Know, but it's a it's a recommendation recommendation, not a prohibition. We obviously we can't tell people not to have their kids walk around, but it's a 241 00:29:44.220 --> 00:29:49.950 Ken Rothchild: You know, if you put it in a police signboard does that make it a lot. I didn't think so. I just thought it was a recommended 242 00:29:50.010 --> 00:30:04.050 Karen Tarapata: Women want to be called out like you know those upper night. People are any, you know, I kind of like the nose Halloween street closures, or no street closure on October 31 243 00:30:05.370 --> 00:30:08.760 Karen Tarapata: Or maybe we just tell them we don't want the signboard I want 244 00:30:09.690 --> 00:30:21.060 Laurie Dodge: Some interesting things. I'm trying to find where YOURS IS JEFF, WHAT DID YOU HAVE HERE. I'm happy, healthy stay healthy stay home. Stay safe, no village events. 245 00:30:22.110 --> 00:30:23.910 Laurie Dodge: I don't know if that can all fit. 246 00:30:24.510 --> 00:30:30.870 sylviajeff: Well, actually, what I had said that the two different suggestions. One of them is more of a PSA type of thing. 247 00:30:31.260 --> 00:30:45.060 sylviajeff: That was just like, Happy Halloween stay healthy stay home. But the other one was more specific to say that, you know, I was stances a village or says Happy Halloween, stay safe. No village events plus street closures this year. 248 00:30:45.270 --> 00:30:47.430 Laurie Dodge: Yeah I combine them in my head. I like them. 249 00:30:47.520 --> 00:30:47.880 Laurie Dodge: I like 250 00:30:48.300 --> 00:30:55.080 Karen Tarapata: All I could ask him, I can ask him how much we can fit on a board if they can do because I know they do like one and then the other. 251 00:30:55.110 --> 00:30:55.950 Laurie Dodge: Like they won't do it. 252 00:30:57.060 --> 00:31:03.150 Laurie Dodge: Right, and it's like a repeated it repeats and it can be up to. Yeah, right. It's two or three sort of cycles. 253 00:31:03.600 --> 00:31:13.560 Karen Tarapata: That we said would you want to buy the school. And I said, Actually, no. I'd want it more like by the synagogue by the village line because a lot of people go up castle heights and never go by the school. Yeah, right. 254 00:31:14.790 --> 00:31:16.020 sylviajeff: I didn't know how 255 00:31:16.530 --> 00:31:16.980 Ken Rothchild: Our cross 256 00:31:17.520 --> 00:31:19.560 sylviajeff: Would react to the idea about that. 257 00:31:19.800 --> 00:31:26.700 sylviajeff: Line about stay home. Happy Halloween stay healthy stay home. I thought that might be too heavy handed but I just wanted to put it out there. 258 00:31:27.060 --> 00:31:37.440 sylviajeff: The other one. Happy Halloween. Stay safe, no go Juventus treat coach. This year I think is more general and just says out there when a supporting this, you know, now it's on you. 259 00:31:39.060 --> 00:31:52.710 Karen Tarapata: That's probably better because I guess the social media discussion has been. Why are they saying we can't and actually learning Gallo I was told came back with no they're just saying it's, it's, you do what you think is safe. 260 00:31:52.740 --> 00:31:54.000 They're just not sanctioned 261 00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.120 Ken Rothchild: We have a member of the public here who might have something to say, but I'm not sure. 262 00:32:00.780 --> 00:32:01.350 Ken Rothchild: No, I just 263 00:32:01.380 --> 00:32:15.810 Ken Rothchild: I was gonna say, I might put the sign on, if it fits like across from cartels, or you know somewhere on that corner that stop sign area might be at the spot, but also, you know, people have been talking in the neighborhood and asking 264 00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:24.210 Ken Rothchild: And so I think something that says the streets are closed, you know, that would be probably a really great idea. 265 00:32:25.980 --> 00:32:27.450 Karen Tarapata: Just woke up with a nightmare of 266 00:32:27.450 --> 00:32:28.530 Karen Tarapata: 400 kids. 267 00:32:28.560 --> 00:32:30.600 Ken Rothchild: Yeah, and then locally. I mean, just 268 00:32:30.810 --> 00:32:32.880 Karen Tarapata: Go to our Nyack and then they're all on the 269 00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:37.530 Karen Tarapata: Street, and then there's the bug and as the leads and the SUVs and 270 00:32:37.620 --> 00:32:38.370 Ken Rothchild: Yeah. 271 00:32:38.460 --> 00:32:46.650 Ken Rothchild: And then locally, though. I mean, what we were talking about us neighbors would be just for like the younger kids at like 530 272 00:32:47.130 --> 00:32:58.020 Ken Rothchild: For them to be able to just stay local and literally go around the corner and then we'd leave candy on our purchase or something like that for them and that that way they could go with 273 00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:00.210 Ken Rothchild: Little family groups, so I 274 00:33:01.410 --> 00:33:03.540 Karen Tarapata: See the middle school kids that come later. 275 00:33:03.570 --> 00:33:04.440 Ken Rothchild: When I know 276 00:33:05.910 --> 00:33:08.040 Karen Tarapata: So I just want your parents to know 277 00:33:08.730 --> 00:33:09.030 Ken Rothchild: Yeah. 278 00:33:09.060 --> 00:33:13.200 Karen Tarapata: I mean that that there's nothing if they say we're going up or Nyack and they'll be like, well, you 279 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:13.500 Karen Tarapata: Know, 280 00:33:14.190 --> 00:33:26.100 Ken Rothchild: I absolutely agree. I just think, I don't know if I guess you really can't sort of encourage anything in specifics, but, you know, it would be nice if you could say, you know, 281 00:33:26.670 --> 00:33:31.620 Ken Rothchild: Stay home stay local well is a stay home or is it stay local you know 282 00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:34.770 Karen Tarapata: I don't think we want to go there because that would be 283 00:33:34.830 --> 00:33:38.460 Karen Tarapata: Right, encouraging something. Yeah. 284 00:33:39.510 --> 00:33:42.690 Karen Tarapata: So okay, so I'll find out how many characters. 285 00:33:44.430 --> 00:33:49.620 Karen Tarapata: We can, you know, fit on a sign this you can tell me that if we can even get one. 286 00:33:51.060 --> 00:33:51.360 Ken Rothchild: This 287 00:33:52.470 --> 00:33:56.130 Karen Tarapata: Was just a nightmare thought about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean it. 288 00:33:56.280 --> 00:34:11.430 Ken Rothchild: To some extent may depend on you know the the folks who have traditionally borne the brunt of the the crush around North Broadway here around hotels and we know of at least one neighbor who said they're just not doing it this year. 289 00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:13.380 Karen Tarapata: Well, Betty said no. 290 00:34:14.250 --> 00:34:20.460 Ken Rothchild: Yeah, so, so maybe people show up and discover there's about five places to go to and 291 00:34:20.970 --> 00:34:37.110 Ken Rothchild: away they go. So I guess I guess the one thing I would say is that people somehow if there was some way to say if you are going to give out candy that needs to be not you personally at the door that it needs to be just a cauldron or or something or a basket on your porch. It can't. 292 00:34:37.590 --> 00:34:54.960 Karen Tarapata: Well that's we have the CDC guidelines are going out to all the parents and the end, Georgia. Georgia trick or treating is considered high risk. Okay, so that's, that's what I thought was great. I when I call the superintendent's office. He goes, oh, Mayor him and just called me too. 293 00:34:55.980 --> 00:35:10.140 Karen Tarapata: Because that's put something together. And so I didn't have to read. I, I just talked about empires not doing it. We're not closing the roads and Mayor Hammond went into more detail with the link to the CDC guidelines. Great. 294 00:35:10.890 --> 00:35:12.030 Karen Tarapata: I think with that, if 295 00:35:12.090 --> 00:35:14.610 Karen Tarapata: If we can get the signboard I'll feel more confident 296 00:35:15.180 --> 00:35:17.520 Ken Rothchild: Yeah, for sure. Okay. 297 00:35:18.570 --> 00:35:29.640 Laurie Dodge: signboard will be easier than them last minutes sending police cars with auxiliary policeman who aren't on duty when they're, you know, hundreds of kids at the intersection 298 00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:34.470 Karen Tarapata: Yeah, well, I'm hoping the parents will just pull the plug on that. 299 00:35:34.710 --> 00:35:44.190 Laurie Dodge: Let's hope. Yeah, let's hope it will seem like they're kind of, I mean, I don't know, people around here seem like they're more responsible than other places. So 300 00:35:44.460 --> 00:35:46.260 Karen Tarapata: But people come from other places. 301 00:35:46.530 --> 00:35:48.630 Laurie Dodge: Right, well that right. That's the point. 302 00:35:49.560 --> 00:35:53.130 Karen Tarapata: That's, you know, when you see the Jersey plates. You're like, What is going on. 303 00:35:53.460 --> 00:35:54.120 Laurie Dodge: real well. 304 00:35:54.210 --> 00:36:00.450 Laurie Dodge: I mean. But to your point, that's a, that's a very that's even more complicated because 305 00:36:01.530 --> 00:36:05.100 Laurie Dodge: Our messaging isn't going to get to them. I mean we have to do it. 306 00:36:05.610 --> 00:36:18.330 Karen Tarapata: Live Crew unless there's somebody who happens to come here this weekend. Wouldn't it be great if it was up this weekend and people were cutting through to belly cottage or any other you know would see it. So I got a club talk to him tomorrow. 307 00:36:19.680 --> 00:36:27.120 sylviajeff: From how you're presenting this I'm assume that if we get assigned boy, it's going to be just one and what be lucky to have that 308 00:36:27.570 --> 00:36:28.860 Karen Tarapata: Yep. Okay, fine. 309 00:36:30.180 --> 00:36:30.840 Karen Tarapata: Yeah. 310 00:36:31.980 --> 00:36:37.200 sylviajeff: Cuz I was thinking middling would be a good place. Also, but we have to pick one place I guess would be the 311 00:36:37.290 --> 00:36:41.130 michael esmay: Go to play. How many days before calling 312 00:36:42.900 --> 00:36:51.750 Karen Tarapata: I'd love to have it this weekend, just so people see it, but I don't know if we'll get it, but that was I think that's when people just zipping through people who don't really 313 00:36:52.830 --> 00:36:55.890 Karen Tarapata: Know, don't really don't live here. Yeah. 314 00:36:56.910 --> 00:37:03.030 Karen Tarapata: And now it's become such a tourist destination. Now on the weekends. It's packed. 315 00:37:05.640 --> 00:37:06.150 Laurie Dodge: Huh. 316 00:37:07.650 --> 00:37:08.460 Ken Rothchild: Yeah, that was 317 00:37:10.710 --> 00:37:14.910 Ken Rothchild: Our local store owner, saying, Yeah, please, please. Hello coming by saying 318 00:37:15.330 --> 00:37:16.650 Karen Tarapata: I don't shop on the weekend. 319 00:37:19.050 --> 00:37:19.440 Ken Rothchild: You 320 00:37:23.100 --> 00:37:23.640 Karen Tarapata: Pack. 321 00:37:24.240 --> 00:37:38.670 Ken Rothchild: It's been great. That's wonderful. It's been great. It's been really nice and safe and and manageable and very, very appreciated I there's so many people who've been coming up and just loving Nyack so 322 00:37:40.110 --> 00:37:43.380 Karen Tarapata: Yeah, yeah. Well, if any of us want to move. Now's the time 323 00:37:45.270 --> 00:37:48.000 Karen Tarapata: It takes about six hours to sell your house right now. 324 00:37:50.070 --> 00:37:51.930 Karen Tarapata: I don't want to go. I don't want to go. 325 00:37:53.130 --> 00:37:59.580 Karen Tarapata: Over the last thing I have is they employ guidelines. Did anyone have a chance or did you look at the revisions and 326 00:38:00.900 --> 00:38:04.560 Karen Tarapata: Most of the stuff is pretty much, you know, 327 00:38:06.600 --> 00:38:08.190 Karen Tarapata: Making sure everything was legal. 328 00:38:09.570 --> 00:38:11.160 Karen Tarapata: But I don't know, did you hook 329 00:38:11.790 --> 00:38:14.790 Ken Rothchild: I think so. So I did go through it. 330 00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:16.200 Ken Rothchild: Line by 331 00:38:16.410 --> 00:38:18.150 Ken Rothchild: Line by line, um, 332 00:38:19.170 --> 00:38:22.560 Ken Rothchild: And so sort of the big question. Karen is that 333 00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:25.980 Ken Rothchild: A lot of the changes. 334 00:38:26.100 --> 00:38:31.650 Ken Rothchild: And sort of either deletions or additions seem to be directly 335 00:38:33.720 --> 00:38:39.870 Ken Rothchild: directly involved with Civil Service Law. Am I right about that. 336 00:38:41.280 --> 00:38:43.200 Karen Tarapata: I guess, and I'm trying to 337 00:38:44.340 --> 00:38:54.030 Karen Tarapata: Reduce the amount we say about it and send them to the, you know, various websites, instead of trying to describe everything ourselves. 338 00:38:54.690 --> 00:38:59.610 Ken Rothchild: Okay, but it's, it's, you know, I thought, much of it seemed to be like 339 00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:03.450 Ken Rothchild: And I've run across this and other sort of 340 00:39:05.370 --> 00:39:16.230 Ken Rothchild: Areas where writing you know you you write things and then you find out that actually the, the language you need to use is very specific and required by law and 341 00:39:16.740 --> 00:39:33.000 Ken Rothchild: The stuff you've written is not appropriate in though, in terms of eyes law. So I guess most of that, but I did have a couple of places where I noticed, I wanted to ask about some of the changes. Yeah, so I'm 342 00:39:35.970 --> 00:39:38.850 Ken Rothchild: In so I'm 343 00:39:40.350 --> 00:39:43.440 Ken Rothchild: Around page 11 or so of the document. 344 00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:51.150 Ken Rothchild: You deleted the point about notifying or people asking and the DP W about promotions. 345 00:39:52.620 --> 00:39:57.570 Karen Tarapata: Yeah, because it didn't really make any sense. We don't have any work for them to promote to 346 00:39:58.590 --> 00:39:58.860 Ken Rothchild: Okay. 347 00:39:59.310 --> 00:40:02.760 Karen Tarapata: Yeah, so I just thought that was the wrong impression 348 00:40:03.300 --> 00:40:16.110 Ken Rothchild: Just. Yeah. Just thought I'd ask. And then in the same page where we're talking about a temporary office help you crossed out 40 hours and then put back in 40 hours. Did you mean to have that 349 00:40:17.160 --> 00:40:21.420 Ken Rothchild: Because a 40 Hour Workweek makes them actually full time is that I'm not sure. 350 00:40:22.710 --> 00:40:26.520 Karen Tarapata: I know I thought that was rather strange also that 351 00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:32.850 Karen Tarapata: Yeah, I thought that was a little, a little strange, with the with the temporary but 352 00:40:34.140 --> 00:40:45.240 Karen Tarapata: What's interesting, the temporary workers for the DP, Debbie. We had given a maximum number of days, they could work in a year, but we didn't do that for the temporary people in the 353 00:40:46.830 --> 00:40:47.850 Karen Tarapata: In the office. 354 00:40:48.510 --> 00:40:51.780 Ken Rothchild: I guess, I guess. I think the issue is with part time workers. 355 00:40:53.160 --> 00:41:06.810 Ken Rothchild: Were temporary workers, you know, you have to ask yourself, Are you planning on giving them benefits which I think under federal law over 20 over 30 hours 30 hours or more. You have to give them benefits you must give them benefit so 356 00:41:06.810 --> 00:41:08.010 Ken Rothchild: We might want to look at 357 00:41:08.040 --> 00:41:13.230 Laurie Dodge: That 20 hmm 30 or 20 3030 358 00:41:13.650 --> 00:41:15.570 michael esmay: I thought it was 20 something 359 00:41:15.870 --> 00:41:16.260 Oh, 360 00:41:17.910 --> 00:41:18.180 It's 361 00:41:19.260 --> 00:41:20.070 michael esmay: 20 and 30 362 00:41:20.130 --> 00:41:22.920 Ken Rothchild: It's up to 29 hours. Yeah. 363 00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:25.620 Ken Rothchild: It's up to $20 so once you hit 364 00:41:25.620 --> 00:41:27.750 Ken Rothchild: 3030 is considered full time. 365 00:41:28.470 --> 00:41:29.730 Karen Tarapata: Okay, here we go. 366 00:41:31.170 --> 00:41:42.570 Karen Tarapata: Okay, not more than 29 hours for and we want to sort of say how many weeks we would even want to have a temporary person. We don't need to do that. 367 00:41:43.170 --> 00:41:44.250 Ken Rothchild: Well, no, no. 368 00:41:44.310 --> 00:41:46.080 Ken Rothchild: It's, it's literally by the week. 369 00:41:46.860 --> 00:41:57.300 Karen Tarapata: Yeah okay for not more than 29 hours, considering this really someone there only four hours a day 20 hours a week is pretty much what they would work. 370 00:41:58.410 --> 00:42:07.140 Karen Tarapata: Anyway, unless we gave them like some very specific project like at some point we're going to be reorganizing all the building department files. 371 00:42:07.500 --> 00:42:21.660 Karen Tarapata: And that's going to be the project from hell. And it's going to be somebody's job. But yeah, they can do it for you could you could manage that four hours a day and then just keep at it until you were done. So up to 29. Would that be okay. I 372 00:42:21.690 --> 00:42:23.190 Ken Rothchild: Think that's the legal standard 373 00:42:23.850 --> 00:42:24.840 Karen Tarapata: Right. I like that. 374 00:42:27.270 --> 00:42:40.080 sylviajeff: Making a note of that all these various benefits and health care coverage you know afterwards and stuff like that. These are all things that are based on our village or these New York State things 375 00:42:40.710 --> 00:42:51.450 Karen Tarapata: Like Japan. The. A lot of it is New York State, like all the retirement things in New York State. And actually, I was looking at this today, and I was making some more changes. 376 00:42:52.020 --> 00:43:11.100 Karen Tarapata: Because some of the information that I gave here no longer applies to our newer employees who are tier six that they have different rules. So I want to go back in and simplify some language saying all of you know all employees are retired of 377 00:43:12.210 --> 00:43:13.620 Karen Tarapata: Are required to 378 00:43:16.230 --> 00:43:28.260 Karen Tarapata: give some money to the Retirement System according to their tier visit the nice lose website in order to you know for the relevant information rather than trying to keep up with it in our little handbook. 379 00:43:30.780 --> 00:43:31.500 Karen Tarapata: Our 380 00:43:32.670 --> 00:43:35.190 Karen Tarapata: Health Benefits are pretty closely. 381 00:43:38.160 --> 00:43:47.400 Karen Tarapata: That is that is something that you're either in or you're out and we do offer benefits and once we decided to offer benefits were really limited as to what kind of 382 00:43:48.180 --> 00:43:56.430 Karen Tarapata: Benefits, we can offer. We have to do certain things we have to do. I can, I can show you the file. Jeff, I can't explain it rapidly. 383 00:43:58.110 --> 00:44:01.650 sylviajeff: I didn't know where the genesis of this was strong and 384 00:44:01.710 --> 00:44:09.870 Ken Rothchild: So I think that the 29 hours or versus 30 hours is actually an Affordable Care Act provision that 385 00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:25.920 Ken Rothchild: That's so that's federal law that, in other words, once you become a full time employee, the Federal a portable Care Act requires you to be covered by benefits and the cutoff for full time, again, is if you've done 30 hours you're considered full time. 386 00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:29.190 Karen Tarapata: So, 387 00:44:29.670 --> 00:44:33.660 Ken Rothchild: It's, you know, it's the usual american way a mishmash of all sorts of things. 388 00:44:35.730 --> 00:44:38.460 Karen Tarapata: Now that Jeff, I'll provide you with 389 00:44:41.430 --> 00:44:42.720 Karen Tarapata: The insurance website. 390 00:44:43.980 --> 00:44:52.260 Karen Tarapata: NICE SHIP New York State Health Insurance Program, and when employees get their health insurance that 391 00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:56.370 Karen Tarapata: And we have. We don't. We 392 00:44:56.580 --> 00:45:01.590 sylviajeff: We actually you answered the question just by the fact that the New York State employees that that's 393 00:45:03.390 --> 00:45:24.210 Karen Tarapata: And that was also how we came up with the percentage that we decided to cover of employees insurance if they do take the health insurance. The newer employees we cover the same amount that New York State covers for their civil service employees. Okay. 394 00:45:26.640 --> 00:45:41.220 Ken Rothchild: So to continue and there's not many. There's not much of this um we had in the original employer and book instituted a couple of extra hours per week outside of the usual nine to 12 395 00:45:42.900 --> 00:45:56.940 Ken Rothchild: And you deleted that. This time we never instituted it obviously at the time that we thought it was useful to have hours outside of the other the hours that we'd had just to give people, you know, 396 00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:01.470 Ken Rothchild: And you decided to delete it, just because we're never going to do it is that 397 00:46:02.160 --> 00:46:12.900 Karen Tarapata: Well, I thought of, you know, we're, we're starting to undergo a big transformation in the next couple years. I like I think that when we do get 398 00:46:13.440 --> 00:46:21.900 Karen Tarapata: When we start to replace employees. Perhaps we'll have them work nine to three instead of nine to 12 or nine to one. 399 00:46:22.770 --> 00:46:29.910 Karen Tarapata: We can extend some hours. But right now we don't have anybody who's there to come back. You know, I mean, there's a 400 00:46:30.390 --> 00:46:40.650 Karen Tarapata: It just became sort of a mishmash so I thought it was easier to take it out now. And then as we start to update our procedures, put it back in. 401 00:46:41.250 --> 00:47:00.660 Karen Tarapata: I'm hoping to work with the new village clerk and once we get somebody in next year, start to see what ideas, they have to. And as ways to make that work. This yeah we never did Institute it right. Yeah. 402 00:47:01.410 --> 00:47:03.810 Ken Rothchild: It's something we talked about ever made happen. 403 00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:11.730 Karen Tarapata: Right idea, it's still something that I think we absolutely should have one day a week where there's somebody there either very early. 404 00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:25.680 Karen Tarapata: Or late so you could come before or after work. Yeah. And maybe and maybe it ends up being somebody, maybe it's early maybe somebody there at 731 day a week. So people who are meeting could still swing by and drop something off. 405 00:47:27.030 --> 00:47:29.160 Karen Tarapata: That better. I don't know. Yeah. 406 00:47:29.310 --> 00:47:46.980 Ken Rothchild: Okay. And then finally, I'm on the emergency call out section we put in rotating it so that you know each each DP wi would have a shot at the overtime hours. Did you just take that out because it seemed unnecessary or 407 00:47:47.280 --> 00:47:57.150 Karen Tarapata: Unnecessary typically because they each have a different, they have different skills, it pretty much they they take care of themselves currently 408 00:47:57.570 --> 00:48:13.440 Karen Tarapata: Okay, make sure they're so fair minded and this new guy lives right on, Franklin. So if we needed somebody like in five minutes. I mean, he could be there in five minutes. And then while the other guys are coming. So I think now we're covered more than ever. 409 00:48:15.300 --> 00:48:15.600 Ken Rothchild: Okay. 410 00:48:17.790 --> 00:48:21.960 Karen Tarapata: But what it was more competitive. When the previous employer was was with us. 411 00:48:22.740 --> 00:48:27.510 Karen Tarapata: Right, it was important to rotate it because he would take it all himself. And then, yeah. 412 00:48:27.930 --> 00:48:39.180 Ken Rothchild: Got it. Okay, so those, those are sort of the ones that didn't strike me as being attached to Civil Service Law. So I thought I'd ask. Thanks. 413 00:48:39.600 --> 00:48:39.840 Great. 414 00:48:41.370 --> 00:48:42.960 michael esmay: How is the new guy doing 415 00:48:43.890 --> 00:48:59.040 Karen Tarapata: He's doing great. He started driving today, they, they, we got the approval to get them in the truck and Chris showed him his route for picking up leaf bags and Chris called me up and said this guy picks up really fast. 416 00:49:00.330 --> 00:49:06.930 Karen Tarapata: What was also great as I sent them over to her. He used to work to pick up some topsoil where river hook 417 00:49:07.560 --> 00:49:22.740 Karen Tarapata: And because he used to work there, he said to the guy. They're not not that file. No, no, that pile. He goes, and your mulches because your mouth. It's all off the P i can tell it from here. The pH is all off. So I think what he was talking shop at 418 00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:24.930 Karen Tarapata: The mulch place. 419 00:49:26.340 --> 00:49:30.690 Karen Tarapata: So, boy, did we get a pile of beautiful black dirt for the book. 420 00:49:31.170 --> 00:49:40.800 Karen Tarapata: Yay. See the difference from the last pile and I got there yesterday one. Wow, so nicely dirt and then I found out that there was a whole conversation. 421 00:49:42.210 --> 00:49:42.510 Yeah. 422 00:49:44.130 --> 00:49:44.340 michael esmay: Good. 423 00:49:45.120 --> 00:49:45.390 Good. 424 00:49:46.470 --> 00:49:47.940 sylviajeff: I made a few notes also 425 00:49:49.020 --> 00:49:49.260 Karen Tarapata: Yes. 426 00:49:49.530 --> 00:49:51.090 sylviajeff: It took me this long to find 427 00:49:52.380 --> 00:49:52.800 sylviajeff: But 428 00:49:55.080 --> 00:50:07.830 sylviajeff: The first one is just a question of verbiage on Section one page one. I think we were these individuals are classified service civil service employees and then was charged with it. 429 00:50:08.130 --> 00:50:17.070 Karen Tarapata: Jill asked me about that too. She's like that. I think that must I'm going to double check it. I have a feeling that that is a legal term. 430 00:50:17.250 --> 00:50:32.220 sylviajeff: Okay. Then on Section six page 11 under timesheets we remove, by the way, credit to you. That's amazing that you went through that entire booklet that way and did all that work the time sheets of we took out a semi monthly 431 00:50:34.470 --> 00:50:36.180 sylviajeff: How often we have to provide a but 432 00:50:36.240 --> 00:50:43.830 sylviajeff: We didn't add any timeframe. Do we want to have some time frame, whether it's a week, every other week a month just 433 00:50:43.860 --> 00:50:46.230 Karen Tarapata: They don't care paid if they don't turn in their timesheets 434 00:50:46.860 --> 00:50:47.460 sylviajeff: Take care of that. 435 00:50:50.790 --> 00:50:58.290 Karen Tarapata: And also the because the village hall staff is on basically on salary. 436 00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:16.200 Karen Tarapata: I really wanted them. And this is something I worked on today. I don't want them to turn in timesheets necessarily, but I do want them to log their personal days vacation days sick days which right now is sort of on the honor system. And that's, that's ridiculous. That's 437 00:51:17.250 --> 00:51:29.220 Karen Tarapata: sloppy. So instead, they have to turn in every pay period, they have to turn into she saying whether or not they used any of their time off having them keep it in their heads. Just, just 438 00:51:29.610 --> 00:51:42.390 sylviajeff: And there was an interesting things on to that regard I were you, I think you removed sentence that if an employee becomes ill during the vacation. The days will still be considered vacation days or something like that. It 439 00:51:43.170 --> 00:51:50.550 Karen Tarapata: mean spirited. I mean, you should, if there's if your second vacation, you should be able to swap those out the sick days. 440 00:51:50.850 --> 00:51:51.330 sylviajeff: Okay. 441 00:51:51.900 --> 00:51:52.650 Karen Tarapata: Don't you think 442 00:51:54.060 --> 00:51:55.650 Karen Tarapata: They only get so many a year. 443 00:51:56.190 --> 00:51:59.490 Ken Rothchild: Right, I don't even remember where that came from. To tell you the truth. So 444 00:52:01.620 --> 00:52:08.910 Ken Rothchild: I mean, you know, I, Jeff, I, I was it's done and I who who kind of put this all together for years ago and 445 00:52:09.630 --> 00:52:23.040 Ken Rothchild: And and i my reaction is similar to Karen's. It's like, you know what, why would we have done that. So if there's probably something going on. Maybe it was language from the basis, we're using. Maybe it was done, I just being pissed off. I don't know. 446 00:52:23.070 --> 00:52:23.460 Something 447 00:52:25.410 --> 00:52:34.170 Karen Tarapata: That's awesome. There's one other thing I just remembered I came across it today. There's a strange thing that says once you give your notice that you're going to leave. 448 00:52:35.190 --> 00:52:39.330 Karen Tarapata: You no longer accrue your one half vacation day per month. 449 00:52:40.920 --> 00:52:46.500 Karen Tarapata: Now, that's ridiculous that would lead somebody to not let you know until the last minute. 450 00:52:47.670 --> 00:53:00.780 Karen Tarapata: So I would like to strike that it's a strange provision. I don't know where it came from, but otherwise we're going again. And we would be telling Carol that she's not going to accrue any more vacation days between now and April. 451 00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:03.330 Karen Tarapata: And I think that's 452 00:53:04.290 --> 00:53:08.400 Karen Tarapata: Right, that's just not. That's just not right i i don't 453 00:53:08.970 --> 00:53:15.600 Ken Rothchild: Yeah, I think the intent on that would have been because your expectations. They're not going to let you know they're retiring or leaving 454 00:53:16.500 --> 00:53:28.800 Ken Rothchild: Until about a week or two weeks ahead of time anyway but someone who's basically giving you, you know, nine months of notice that that's certainly that's certainly would not have been the intent. 455 00:53:29.460 --> 00:53:30.480 Ken Rothchild: Behind that so 456 00:53:31.290 --> 00:53:33.390 Karen Tarapata: It's often that and I'll strike. 457 00:53:35.460 --> 00:53:36.510 Karen Tarapata: That provision. 458 00:53:41.190 --> 00:53:53.760 sylviajeff: Another question because you, you said that the, the idea behind some of the changes was to drive people to look elsewhere for more in depth answers to the questions that they may 459 00:53:54.840 --> 00:54:03.270 sylviajeff: You know that admit that have been raised. So I do you think that we should specify where the Civil Service Law as can be located for their review. 460 00:54:04.050 --> 00:54:12.360 Karen Tarapata: Why could say you guys I could absolutely do that. I don't want to give a specific website address because sometimes they change those and then it's no longer any good. 461 00:54:12.780 --> 00:54:23.490 Karen Tarapata: But if I said it was like the Office of the State Comptroller or village law. It's something you can Google if I particularly like going to try and put the actual 462 00:54:23.970 --> 00:54:32.220 Karen Tarapata: Law number because that's what I'm doing is like going village law for, you know, New York State knowledge law for 13 and it comes right up 463 00:54:32.550 --> 00:54:43.440 sylviajeff: Okay. And then if you were going to add that I had seen the under Section eight page 24 hours just to make it easier. So we might want to just say, Look here, you know, contact this 464 00:54:43.770 --> 00:54:48.150 Karen Tarapata: One. Yeah, exactly. Add sections and laws and sections. 465 00:54:48.210 --> 00:54:51.030 sylviajeff: Okay. And lastly, you didn't remove so appendices. 466 00:54:52.230 --> 00:54:52.650 sylviajeff: Was the 467 00:54:53.520 --> 00:54:54.630 Karen Tarapata: New ones we got 468 00:54:54.630 --> 00:54:58.380 Karen Tarapata: To get new ones. So, the ones that we had in here were replaced 469 00:54:59.010 --> 00:55:00.390 Karen Tarapata: And yeah. 470 00:55:01.740 --> 00:55:10.710 Karen Tarapata: I haven't got those yet Carol still trying to figure out which which one's the most recent one, but I may just get them from the New York Council of Mayors. 471 00:55:11.460 --> 00:55:13.200 sylviajeff: Really nice job and this girl. 472 00:55:14.040 --> 00:55:28.110 Karen Tarapata: Well, I mean, can didn't originally. He started out with a little 16 pager that our former treasurer and put together, which was pretty much like a treasure blind like kind of like it this way, but 473 00:55:28.680 --> 00:55:33.420 Ken Rothchild: You know all handbooks expand to fill the space allotted, so 474 00:55:34.290 --> 00:55:38.400 Ken Rothchild: 616 to 60 pages I got I'm proud of that record. Very good. 475 00:55:39.780 --> 00:55:42.210 Karen Tarapata: The one other thing I wanted to change is like we mentioned 476 00:55:44.250 --> 00:56:00.690 Karen Tarapata: Things like mileage if somebody's allowed you know sent out to use their own car. I want to just change that to the IRS standard mileage rate for that year instead of saying we're going to set it every year at the organizational meeting, we can just refer to the Federal mileage 477 00:56:00.870 --> 00:56:01.650 Ken Rothchild: That's perfect. 478 00:56:01.740 --> 00:56:03.540 Ken Rothchild: That's so much easier. Absolutely. 479 00:56:04.980 --> 00:56:16.110 Karen Tarapata: Okay, so I'm going to give this one more brush through, you know, and then I'll send you guys the, I'll do that. I'll finish that up tomorrow, so I can send it back to you and hopefully track down those dependencies. 480 00:56:18.570 --> 00:56:18.960 Karen Tarapata: Great. 481 00:56:20.130 --> 00:56:40.410 Karen Tarapata: That's all I got. Wait. Oh, yes. One more. One more thing. Finally we have. Okay, I'm going to be sending each of you, your trusty email address and password. You can, and how to add it to whatever email program that you use because 482 00:56:41.490 --> 00:56:46.470 Karen Tarapata: We really need to separate our trusty emails from our personal emails. 483 00:56:47.940 --> 00:56:55.230 Karen Tarapata: Also because of these all this hacking. Now, I think it's much safer if we have everything trustee. Why's that have segregated. 484 00:56:56.970 --> 00:57:04.920 Karen Tarapata: So I will send Louie, Louie has set up these crazy passwords that, of course, you'll be able to change once you do it the first time. 485 00:57:05.490 --> 00:57:20.430 Karen Tarapata: But I'll get a sheet, they'll get it to everybody tomorrow because I know Jeff. He wanted to sign up for that one course and they always ask you for your work email. So I want to get yours to you immediately so that you can plug that in. When you, when you go to register for that. 486 00:57:21.510 --> 00:57:22.020 Karen Tarapata: Program. 487 00:57:23.040 --> 00:57:27.420 Laurie Dodge: We do, how are our system keeps getting hacked. 488 00:57:28.320 --> 00:57:42.510 Karen Tarapata: I don't know. I've gotten things from the county that were hacked, it's, it's, they are they are testing every municipality. Yeah, everything we've gotten Arlene Miller, the county. Yeah. CHARLIE MILLER got him. 489 00:57:43.650 --> 00:57:52.980 Karen Tarapata: The assistant to the county executive got hacked, it's, it's just now I look at everything so 490 00:57:54.330 --> 00:58:03.510 Karen Tarapata: Carefully because I got like two or three more today just and they're not from us. They're, they're from other other people whose emails are being 491 00:58:03.720 --> 00:58:05.910 sylviajeff: X. So probably the Iranians 492 00:58:08.010 --> 00:58:10.530 Karen Tarapata: It's somebody. I don't know. 493 00:58:14.610 --> 00:58:19.800 Karen Tarapata: So workshops open for discussion. Anything else, cuz I i've got. That's all I got. 494 00:58:22.410 --> 00:58:22.890 Anything. 495 00:58:23.940 --> 00:58:24.420 Karen Tarapata: Good. 496 00:58:25.740 --> 00:58:26.100 sylviajeff: Good. 497 00:58:26.910 --> 00:58:34.230 Karen Tarapata: We're doing a clean up. I remember hook on Saturday, taking the tarps off planning that hillside. 498 00:58:35.100 --> 00:58:44.670 Karen Tarapata: We got our little our seeds and little plants from the landscape architect. So actually, if anybody's interested also in talking to the landscape consultant 499 00:58:45.450 --> 00:58:56.310 Karen Tarapata: About what could be done on river. Come on Saturday. She's going to be there from probably 10 to one she's volunteering your time she's not even charging it she's really excited about this project. 500 00:58:59.010 --> 00:59:10.620 Laurie Dodge: And the goats. Make it. I saw on a just coincidentally, when I was outside doing something. And she's like, I'm so sorry. My daughter soccer game. I said, Don't worry, there will be other opportunities. 501 00:59:10.950 --> 00:59:15.180 Karen Tarapata: Just wanted. I didn't mention to anybody, but I thought it would have been fun if we could have gotten a 502 00:59:15.330 --> 00:59:16.860 Laurie Dodge: Lot of fun. Yeah, and 503 00:59:17.250 --> 00:59:18.900 Karen Tarapata: make an appearance. Yeah. 504 00:59:20.100 --> 00:59:35.310 Karen Tarapata: Maybe they'll come late, maybe we'll get them again. Oh. Oh. Carol was thinking it would be fun if we could have our Christmas party outdoors somewhere with little thermoses about chocolate maybe meet on the property and hackers. 505 00:59:36.570 --> 00:59:38.370 Ken Rothchild: And and to celebrate Tory bonfire. 506 00:59:42.780 --> 00:59:43.920 Karen Tarapata: Get the law passed. 507 00:59:47.430 --> 00:59:56.490 Karen Tarapata: Oh, that's funny. Yes, that's a great yep so we'll see if we can pull something together where at least we could say hi to each other, you know, 508 00:59:57.210 --> 01:00:05.400 Laurie Dodge: I mean, or if we had it at the Old Stone Church. We could, I could also you know i not that anyone necessarily wants to come here, but it would be easy to 509 01:00:05.790 --> 01:00:07.530 Karen Tarapata: Have things written on the plaza. 510 01:00:07.710 --> 01:00:11.280 Laurie Dodge: Yeah, yeah, so that's also another option. 511 01:00:12.120 --> 01:00:17.730 Karen Tarapata: That's not a bad idea because we could have people outside it just have the door open. 512 01:00:18.330 --> 01:00:32.880 Laurie Dodge: And I do have don't tell the village elders, I do have, I only used at once, I must confess, though, one of those little fire pits, so 513 01:00:34.590 --> 01:00:35.250 Karen Tarapata: I gave my 514 01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:35.730 Karen Tarapata: away when I 515 01:00:35.910 --> 01:00:36.390 Karen Tarapata: Came back 516 01:00:37.980 --> 01:00:40.650 Laurie Dodge: We could use I could put that on the sidewalk. 517 01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:42.270 Karen Tarapata: Over there. 518 01:00:42.660 --> 01:00:45.150 Karen Tarapata: You're the one where my fingers. 519 01:00:45.240 --> 01:00:45.780 Karen Tarapata: I really 520 01:00:46.950 --> 01:01:03.270 Ken Rothchild: I think we all had fire pits, maybe not. Jeff, but you know we had, I had one because I used it in the show over at Manhattanville about 10 years ago and and we use we had in our backyard after that for you know, eight years until it fell apart. I think Justice last year so 521 01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:07.350 sylviajeff: Well, if you will have five quits. I'm leaving my god the chat and next trial. 522 01:01:07.410 --> 01:01:07.620 Yeah. 523 01:01:09.960 --> 01:01:13.590 Laurie Dodge: I have to say only use it once, I probably got it in 524 01:01:14.100 --> 01:01:17.580 Laurie Dodge: April, I think it was like the only one left on the east coast. 525 01:01:17.850 --> 01:01:30.570 Laurie Dodge: And we put it at our driveway stone. So we put it in the driveway and Hayden, and I sat around and of course jock had absolutely no interest. And I said, oh my god, I'm such a nervous nelly. I was like, I hope I don't get trouble because if somebody smelled it 526 01:01:31.170 --> 01:01:47.700 Laurie Dodge: And like turns me in. And sure enough, there were a couple people. They didn't say anything bad I forget we might have had Apple what or something. And people were walking by the driveway standing wondering where the nice smell was coming from them like keep on moving don't slow down. 527 01:01:48.510 --> 01:01:58.260 Karen Tarapata: It should, it is there is an exemption that exemption has existed, and I wasn't even aware that the problem until there was a neighbor dispute, where 528 01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:07.170 Karen Tarapata: Where the fire and where the building inspector to get involved and somebody's got a ticket and it really wasn't fair, it was, it was an error on our part. 529 01:02:07.590 --> 01:02:24.150 Karen Tarapata: So I just want to make it real clear so that this doesn't happen again. It can't be weaponized between neighbors. You can complain about smoke but you know if they're, you know, they're doing something of noxious but a reasonable fire pit is 530 01:02:25.680 --> 01:02:30.300 Karen Tarapata: Typically now when you go anywhere. He doesn't get to at least go in the backyard. 531 01:02:31.350 --> 01:02:33.150 Karen Tarapata: Enjoy some wood. Yeah. 532 01:02:33.540 --> 01:02:33.810 Yeah. 533 01:02:35.520 --> 01:02:36.510 sylviajeff: So it's come down. 534 01:02:39.960 --> 01:02:41.400 Laurie Dodge: To the damn fire pit. 535 01:02:43.980 --> 01:02:45.150 Laurie Dodge: Excitement these days. 536 01:02:46.140 --> 01:02:48.990 Karen Tarapata: I'm excited. I'm gonna go outside now pull my whole Bochy out 537 01:02:52.080 --> 01:02:52.980 Karen Tarapata: Okay. 538 01:02:53.280 --> 01:03:03.930 Laurie Dodge: But code enforcer said, as long as you have he was trying to explain it to me when he was here looking at the summit school lights back then. I mean, I didn't have the fire pit then so whenever he came, I didn't have it yet. 539 01:03:04.410 --> 01:03:17.760 Laurie Dodge: And he said, Well, the thing but but I guess that incident had happened where one of the neighbor called on the other neighbor. And I said, what's that all about because I, I didn't say to him, I wanted to get one. But I'm thinking because like I want to get one and and he said 540 01:03:19.590 --> 01:03:29.340 Laurie Dodge: You have like a great on top of it, like your book something or some something and I was like, this sounds like the most convoluted situation ever 541 01:03:29.430 --> 01:03:32.370 Karen Tarapata: Even even that's not true. We just read the law. 542 01:03:32.400 --> 01:03:33.030 Karen Tarapata: So we'll just 543 01:03:33.420 --> 01:03:40.410 Karen Tarapata: We'll just refer people to that if the Department of Environmental Conservation and New York State say it's okay. 544 01:03:41.130 --> 01:03:42.240 Roll it up to them. 545 01:03:44.100 --> 01:03:51.540 Karen Tarapata: All right, well, it's only eight o'clock. This is great. Thank you, everybody. And I'm going to use the end of the day. 546 01:03:52.380 --> 01:03:53.250 Laurie Dodge: On my 547 01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:54.240 Meeting. 548 01:03:55.380 --> 01:03:58.620 Karen Tarapata: Yeah, Mike said that he had was having some internet problems so 549 01:03:59.100 --> 01:04:00.600 sylviajeff: So when's our next meeting. 550 01:04:00.990 --> 01:04:07.590 Karen Tarapata: Our next meeting is not a while it actually be the second Thursday of November. 551 01:04:07.830 --> 01:04:09.990 Ken Rothchild: 2 Thursday. Okay, yeah, November 12 552 01:04:10.560 --> 01:04:14.730 Karen Tarapata: Yeah, the 12th AND THE 19th, but not the 26 553 01:04:16.860 --> 01:04:17.640 sylviajeff: Sounds good. 554 01:04:18.780 --> 01:04:20.490 Ken Rothchild: All right, great. Thanks everybody. 555 01:04:21.540 --> 01:04:22.170 Karen Tarapata: Everybody 556 01:04:22.470 --> 01:04:22.920 Good night.