WEBVTT 100 00:11:14.250 --> 00:11:15.510 Karen Tarapata: Good evening everyone. 101 00:11:17.190 --> 00:11:17.820 Ken Rothchild: Hello. 102 00:11:18.570 --> 00:11:18.930 hey. 103 00:11:22.560 --> 00:11:22.980 Hello. 104 00:11:26.730 --> 00:11:27.240 hey bill. 105 00:11:30.540 --> 00:11:32.610 Karen Tarapata: yeah I don't know i'm not sure what. 106 00:11:34.230 --> 00:11:35.880 Karen Tarapata: What link I was on but I. 107 00:11:35.880 --> 00:11:36.690 18456426153: was not. 108 00:11:36.750 --> 00:11:39.030 Karen Tarapata: I was not here very strange. 109 00:11:41.010 --> 00:11:42.030 michael esmay: It happens. 110 00:11:42.750 --> 00:11:43.620 Karen Tarapata: It happens. 111 00:11:44.130 --> 00:11:45.210 Karen Tarapata: Well i'm just going to start. 112 00:11:45.420 --> 00:11:49.530 Karen Tarapata: out let's see by saying, good evening everyone we. 113 00:11:49.590 --> 00:11:51.390 Call-In User_1: Are this. 114 00:11:51.420 --> 00:11:52.230 Karen Tarapata: Is the. 115 00:11:52.980 --> 00:11:54.930 Karen Tarapata: Regular meeting of the. 116 00:11:55.140 --> 00:11:56.250 Karen Tarapata: upper nyack village. 117 00:11:57.240 --> 00:12:00.240 Karen Tarapata: Board of Trustees we have. 118 00:12:00.270 --> 00:12:02.640 Karen Tarapata: a quorum of. 119 00:12:02.670 --> 00:12:06.000 Karen Tarapata: lori dodge Mike ESME a Jeff Epstein. 120 00:12:07.230 --> 00:12:09.630 Karen Tarapata: Can raw child and myself. 121 00:12:11.550 --> 00:12:12.240 Karen Tarapata: alright. 122 00:12:13.680 --> 00:12:14.790 18456426153: So I think we. 123 00:12:14.790 --> 00:12:18.840 Karen Tarapata: Can sorry I was late, but I think we can begin the meeting. 124 00:12:22.710 --> 00:12:23.850 Karen Tarapata: With the Minutes. 125 00:12:23.880 --> 00:12:26.040 Karen Tarapata: Of the regular meeting of December 17. 126 00:12:26.430 --> 00:12:27.630 Karen Tarapata: I didn't have any. 127 00:12:27.660 --> 00:12:31.590 Karen Tarapata: Changes did anyone else have any changes. 128 00:12:32.070 --> 00:12:33.840 18456426153: That they wanted to make the Minutes. 129 00:12:35.910 --> 00:12:36.600 Call-In User_1: No. 130 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:37.320 Call-In User_1: I didn't. 131 00:12:43.050 --> 00:12:44.730 sylviajeff: I think I may have hold on a second. 132 00:12:45.930 --> 00:12:47.280 sylviajeff: Take a quick look at something. 133 00:12:53.940 --> 00:12:55.320 Call-In User_1: I should have set this up before I. 134 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:56.010 sylviajeff: came on. 135 00:12:56.400 --> 00:13:01.350 sylviajeff: But I think there was something on the minutes of 1217 that's here isn't it. 136 00:13:03.150 --> 00:13:03.390 18456426153: yeah. 137 00:13:04.560 --> 00:13:06.450 sylviajeff: Okay, in Detroit. 138 00:13:08.280 --> 00:13:09.570 sylviajeff: When we lost that. 139 00:13:09.630 --> 00:13:12.960 sylviajeff: i'm 20% of the chips money the highway money. 140 00:13:14.100 --> 00:13:17.550 sylviajeff: That was because New York state just dropped it up correct. 141 00:13:18.180 --> 00:13:19.350 18456426153: Correct okay. 142 00:13:19.410 --> 00:13:22.290 sylviajeff: I would suggest that we say that. 143 00:13:23.070 --> 00:13:24.210 sylviajeff: Instead of saying that. 144 00:13:24.930 --> 00:13:25.860 Call-In User_1: We lost. 145 00:13:27.000 --> 00:13:27.510 sylviajeff: find it. 146 00:13:28.290 --> 00:13:28.620 Call-In User_1: It says. 147 00:13:30.060 --> 00:13:32.820 sylviajeff: 20% of checks rather say. 148 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:34.110 Karen Tarapata: I would say. 149 00:13:34.140 --> 00:13:36.240 Karen Tarapata: Perhaps we say the state health. 150 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:37.470 18456426153: thing that's. 151 00:13:37.890 --> 00:13:39.000 sylviajeff: That would make you feel that. 152 00:13:40.740 --> 00:13:43.800 18456426153: They reduce chips by 20% yeah I. 153 00:13:43.830 --> 00:13:45.060 sylviajeff: think that would be bad thing. 154 00:13:48.390 --> 00:13:49.170 18456426153: What did we do. 155 00:13:52.260 --> 00:13:52.920 18456426153: Here we go. 156 00:13:54.180 --> 00:13:54.780 Karen Tarapata: alright. 157 00:13:56.190 --> 00:13:57.600 18456426153: With that change. 158 00:13:58.110 --> 00:14:02.850 Karen Tarapata: With someone like to make a motion to accept the minutes of the regular meeting up December 17. 159 00:14:06.870 --> 00:14:07.380 Call-In User_1: motion. 160 00:14:08.250 --> 00:14:09.780 Ken Rothchild: it's can i'll second. 161 00:14:11.370 --> 00:14:13.320 Karen Tarapata: Wonderful all in favor say Aye. 162 00:14:14.010 --> 00:14:15.120 lauriedodge: Aye lori. 163 00:14:15.660 --> 00:14:17.340 Call-In User_1: Can I just. 164 00:14:17.400 --> 00:14:19.290 michael esmay: I i'm like. 165 00:14:20.460 --> 00:14:21.330 18456426153: I Karen. 166 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:23.010 Karen Tarapata: All right, and it's. 167 00:14:23.070 --> 00:14:24.300 Call-In User_1: are approved. 168 00:14:25.020 --> 00:14:26.910 Karen Tarapata: I see officer Kennedy is on. 169 00:14:27.570 --> 00:14:28.710 Karen Tarapata: Would you like to guess. 170 00:14:28.710 --> 00:14:45.600 Call-In User_1: The police report, yes, actually before officer Davies gives you the police reports, I would just like to introduce we have sergeant Danny Burke on the line with us, he has taken over first sergeant Kelly, who retired in June, now, I just wanted to introduce him to you well. 171 00:14:46.860 --> 00:14:47.250 Call-In User_1: Welcome 172 00:14:49.590 --> 00:15:03.600 Call-In User_1: Everybody I want to say hello myself i'm Dan Burke i'm sorry two o'clock sounds i've been with the department for 24 years i've been a surgeon for six and a half years I was assigned to a special operations in September, look forward to working with you guys. 173 00:15:05.010 --> 00:15:08.700 Call-In User_1: To have you good to meet you good to meet you searching Burke. 174 00:15:08.910 --> 00:15:09.390 Absolutely. 175 00:15:13.410 --> 00:15:16.230 Call-In User_1: hi guys it's not babies how's everybody doing. 176 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:20.130 Call-In User_1: Good good good okay so. 177 00:15:21.180 --> 00:15:22.290 Call-In User_1: Everybody can hear me okay. 178 00:15:24.060 --> 00:15:38.820 Call-In User_1: Great so since December 18 there has been 190 calls for service for the village of upper nyack there's also there was also for motor vehicle accidents. 179 00:15:39.930 --> 00:15:49.710 Call-In User_1: or them, but I take that back I two of them are at riverton and Highland there was no injuries, there was also to at Christian, Harold. 180 00:15:50.220 --> 00:16:00.360 Call-In User_1: and North Highland avenue one of them was a no injury accident and the other one was very minor and very minor injuries, the person did not go to the hospital. 181 00:16:01.800 --> 00:16:13.170 Call-In User_1: There were 21 alarm calls the combination of burglar alarms and fire alarms there were 35 medical emergencies, there were. 182 00:16:14.400 --> 00:16:20.400 Call-In User_1: There were two domestics in the village both of them were only verbal arguments. 183 00:16:21.750 --> 00:16:33.090 Call-In User_1: The Department did 14 area checks in a village and 63 cultural and religious checks, we do checks at the houses of worship throughout throughout the town. 184 00:16:33.510 --> 00:16:42.510 Call-In User_1: And these checks were at the sons of Israel and the reform temple we were also checking for overnight parking issues and there was no snow no issues. 185 00:16:44.040 --> 00:16:57.540 Call-In User_1: There were also three fraud or ID theft calls and one of them was a family member opened up a credit card account with the without the knowledge of the person who actually had the account. 186 00:16:58.560 --> 00:17:18.510 Call-In User_1: The other person had received a DM what they thought was a dmv text message review, but the regarding renewing a license and registration and that person, provided the personal information, which turned out to be a fraud also somebody Trolls tried to set up an apple pay account. 187 00:17:18.570 --> 00:17:37.440 Call-In User_1: And they were advised on the computer to call apple they were given a telephone number, unfortunately, that number was a scam telephone number, and when the person called they provided their social security number and personal information and a way to access their chase account. 188 00:17:38.550 --> 00:17:45.900 Call-In User_1: Unfortunately, the scammers were able to get 1300 and $90 from the victim. 189 00:17:48.360 --> 00:17:53.760 Call-In User_1: So, so we can be very, very, very careful, especially clicking on any unknown winks. 190 00:17:55.320 --> 00:17:55.740 Call-In User_1: Report. 191 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:57.900 Call-In User_1: we're still having your fraudulent tax. 192 00:17:58.860 --> 00:18:10.050 Call-In User_1: People you're getting calls and stuff so please be very careful in terms of tickets, there were two now uniform traffic tickets issued and there were six parking tickets issued. 193 00:18:11.250 --> 00:18:12.030 Call-In User_1: A quick question. 194 00:18:12.090 --> 00:18:15.540 Call-In User_1: On a locust do you guys still need the parking. 195 00:18:16.050 --> 00:18:16.950 18456426153: Signs down there. 196 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:21.330 Karen Tarapata: Yes, we do it's actually it's still very, very active. 197 00:18:21.360 --> 00:18:23.550 Karen Tarapata: Every every day and. 198 00:18:24.660 --> 00:18:26.040 Karen Tarapata: I think it's important, in fact. 199 00:18:26.130 --> 00:18:28.140 Karen Tarapata: It would be a wonderful thing if you. 200 00:18:28.140 --> 00:18:30.390 Karen Tarapata: could switch them to the other side because we. 201 00:18:30.510 --> 00:18:31.500 Karen Tarapata: We do like to. 202 00:18:32.070 --> 00:18:32.520 Call-In User_1: Have. 203 00:18:32.550 --> 00:18:34.740 Karen Tarapata: The resident share the burden from side to. 204 00:18:34.740 --> 00:18:36.270 Karen Tarapata: Side month to month. 205 00:18:37.050 --> 00:18:46.020 Call-In User_1: Okay, the last time I had the highway department, they they helped me switch them over so i'll make i'll make arrangements to have them. 206 00:18:46.470 --> 00:19:01.860 Call-In User_1: Help maybe in the next day or so switch and switch them over there was another issue that we're having is a mini dp or emotionally disturbed person that's i'm down in the village on in the area of birchwood avenue. 207 00:19:03.900 --> 00:19:06.420 Call-In User_1: we've had several dealings with him. 208 00:19:07.590 --> 00:19:12.660 Call-In User_1: One of the last dealings that we had while we were waiting for the behavioral response. 209 00:19:12.660 --> 00:19:14.490 Call-In User_1: team to come out and evaluate him. 210 00:19:15.060 --> 00:19:28.200 Call-In User_1: He became pretty agitated and when our officers tried to take them down to the hospital, there was a sweat wrestling wrestling match, and one of the officers, we see the minor injuries that he had to get treated for. 211 00:19:29.310 --> 00:19:33.300 Call-In User_1: So we are we're continuing to work on that that issue. 212 00:19:34.410 --> 00:19:37.410 Call-In User_1: In terms of the drug related issues. 213 00:19:38.250 --> 00:19:39.390 18456426153: Since in. 214 00:19:39.690 --> 00:19:48.660 Call-In User_1: terms of the county there's been a total of 22 overdoses of that 19 people survived and there were three people that unfortunately did not. 215 00:19:49.530 --> 00:20:00.570 Call-In User_1: And in the town of clark's found there were five people that overdosed and five of them all of them survived Thank God and that's our complete report unless anybody. 216 00:20:00.570 --> 00:20:01.980 Call-In User_1: Has any questions. 217 00:20:04.980 --> 00:20:05.610 Call-In User_1: No, the. 218 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:07.560 Call-In User_1: behavioral unit does excellent. 219 00:20:07.620 --> 00:20:09.420 Karen Tarapata: Excellent work, I want to thank yeah. 220 00:20:10.410 --> 00:20:14.820 Call-In User_1: And that's the reason why we call them to come down and try to evaluate, but please. 221 00:20:15.930 --> 00:20:20.160 Call-In User_1: While we were waiting he just you know got pretty agitated and you couldn't wait. 222 00:20:21.900 --> 00:20:23.850 Call-In User_1: that's such a shame, yes. 223 00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:26.580 Karen Tarapata: he's getting the help that he needs now. 224 00:20:27.270 --> 00:20:32.520 Call-In User_1: We we are definitely working on that and trying to make sure that he does, thank you. 225 00:20:33.780 --> 00:20:34.050 Call-In User_1: All right. 226 00:20:34.260 --> 00:20:36.060 Karen Tarapata: Thank you very much we'll talk to you. 227 00:20:39.480 --> 00:20:39.900 Karen Tarapata: Great night. 228 00:20:40.020 --> 00:20:41.070 Call-In User_1: very nice Thank you. 229 00:20:46.110 --> 00:20:47.940 Karen Tarapata: Rich would you like to do the treasurer's. 230 00:20:47.940 --> 00:20:54.960 Richard Fortunato: Report yeah i'm sorry about that little technical issues on my end how's everybody tonight. 231 00:20:55.500 --> 00:20:56.430 lauriedodge: Good how are you. 232 00:20:56.610 --> 00:20:58.470 Richard Fortunato: Today um. 233 00:20:59.940 --> 00:21:07.830 Richard Fortunato: But we're getting right into it, when I got on okay so everybody got today the January 21 financial statements. 234 00:21:09.510 --> 00:21:14.190 Richard Fortunato: will go over the memorable items in the cash disbursements and what's on the financial. 235 00:21:14.190 --> 00:21:15.810 18456426153: Statements next. 236 00:21:16.110 --> 00:21:18.300 Richard Fortunato: But they also got today the. 237 00:21:18.360 --> 00:21:21.390 Richard Fortunato: audited financial statements from May 31. 238 00:21:22.140 --> 00:21:25.080 Richard Fortunato: Let me do the audited financial statement first there's really nothing. 239 00:21:26.130 --> 00:21:29.430 Richard Fortunato: memorable in the audited financial statement I mean it's 50 pages of. 240 00:21:29.430 --> 00:21:30.750 Richard Fortunato: Just 50 pages. 241 00:21:32.490 --> 00:21:33.720 Richard Fortunato: There are absolutely no. 242 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:34.440 Richard Fortunato: adjustments. 243 00:21:34.470 --> 00:21:44.940 Richard Fortunato: That the audit firm made to the may 31 2020 financials The numbers are exactly the same that you got in in May of 2020 that I gave you. 244 00:21:46.260 --> 00:21:50.460 Richard Fortunato: They came up there are no notes in there no blemishes there's nothing in there. 245 00:21:50.520 --> 00:21:51.420 Any kind of. 246 00:21:52.590 --> 00:22:02.550 Richard Fortunato: You know that I need to report to you that was wrong or inconsistent or anything like that they're working on the management letter or recommendation letter they should have it to me next week. 247 00:22:02.850 --> 00:22:03.720 Richard Fortunato: Soon, as I have that. 248 00:22:03.780 --> 00:22:04.560 18456426153: I will. 249 00:22:04.620 --> 00:22:12.990 Richard Fortunato: You know his attitude with their recommendations I wouldn't expect that much from it, I don't know that they're going to come up with many recommendations that are you know earth shattering. 250 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:21.660 Richard Fortunato: So that's the financial statement Okay, you could read it, you can, of course, call me on my cell phone number, if you read. 251 00:22:21.690 --> 00:22:24.360 Richard Fortunato: A note, or something in there, that you want me to interpret or. 252 00:22:24.360 --> 00:22:28.920 Richard Fortunato: tell you about, but like I said there's nothing in that there were no. 253 00:22:29.130 --> 00:22:32.070 Richard Fortunato: Numerical changes from May 31 2020. 254 00:22:34.170 --> 00:22:35.730 michael esmay: No slaps on the wrist. 255 00:22:35.820 --> 00:22:40.170 Richard Fortunato: Nothing, absolutely nothing, probably negative nothing. 256 00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:44.220 Richard Fortunato: Nothing it's just they didn't find anything that. 257 00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:52.440 Richard Fortunato: They needed anything to look at I mean and they really did a good job they spoke to all the lawyers spoke to all the trustees right they sent you guys. 258 00:22:52.470 --> 00:22:53.130 and others. 259 00:22:54.420 --> 00:22:54.930 Richard Fortunato: I mean they really. 260 00:22:55.530 --> 00:22:56.790 Richard Fortunato: cases and it's just there's. 261 00:22:56.790 --> 00:22:58.200 Richard Fortunato: Just nothing. 262 00:22:59.820 --> 00:23:02.730 Richard Fortunato: But you're welcome to read it it's good reading I mentioned sleep one night. 263 00:23:04.140 --> 00:23:04.650 Richard Fortunato: Okay. 264 00:23:04.860 --> 00:23:06.420 The current financial statements. 265 00:23:07.680 --> 00:23:14.460 Richard Fortunato: everything looks in line everything in budget the memorable items that are in the cash disbursements this month would be. 266 00:23:14.700 --> 00:23:23.040 Richard Fortunato: painting the office 27,000 the drainage on Palmer at 2000 and. 267 00:23:24.060 --> 00:23:27.270 Richard Fortunato: The railing outside the office 5000. 268 00:23:27.840 --> 00:23:32.100 Richard Fortunato: i'm sorry 12,000 was the railing outside the office of the village. 269 00:23:32.370 --> 00:23:44.430 Richard Fortunato: And the usual legal expenses that they're kind of high, but you know the comprehensive plan is costly so legal expenses, but that will resume the cash that's what the majority of the cash disbursements are this month. 270 00:23:46.050 --> 00:23:46.890 Richard Fortunato: My next item. 271 00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:56.850 Richard Fortunato: And we have any questions questions i'm sure everybody saw the abstract great Okay, I need a resolution Carol to increase the. 272 00:23:58.470 --> 00:23:59.520 18456426153: standard. 273 00:23:59.670 --> 00:24:01.740 Richard Fortunato: medicare part the premium. 274 00:24:02.790 --> 00:24:04.170 18456426153: For our retirees to. 275 00:24:04.170 --> 00:24:07.230 Richard Fortunato: $148 and 50 cents. 276 00:24:07.260 --> 00:24:07.800 18456426153: per month. 277 00:24:10.290 --> 00:24:28.590 Richard Fortunato: For those of you just to recap, we have three retirees that we pay the medicare Part B premium for Barry Paul and Mike Those are three retirees to premium when I believe last year is 144 and change something like that new premium, starting in January is. 278 00:24:28.590 --> 00:24:30.630 Richard Fortunato: 148 50. 279 00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:32.250 Data cow. 280 00:24:33.600 --> 00:24:37.200 18456426153: Yes, I have it Okay, so I just need a resolution to change. 281 00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:40.980 Richard Fortunato: That because it's a cash disbursements and we don't run those through the vouchers. 282 00:24:42.930 --> 00:24:44.220 Karen Tarapata: Somebody make resolution. 283 00:24:44.670 --> 00:24:45.360 18456426153: Mike. 284 00:24:45.810 --> 00:24:52.500 michael esmay: will make that resolution standard medicare premium increase to 148 50 yeah. 285 00:24:52.800 --> 00:24:53.940 sylviajeff: Jeff will second it. 286 00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:57.270 Karen Tarapata: Right all in favor say Aye. 287 00:24:58.770 --> 00:24:59.400 michael esmay: Like I. 288 00:25:02.730 --> 00:25:03.480 Ken Rothchild: Can I. 289 00:25:04.560 --> 00:25:05.430 18456426153: lori I. 290 00:25:06.360 --> 00:25:08.220 Karen Tarapata: Karen I so moved. 291 00:25:09.030 --> 00:25:16.500 Richard Fortunato: Okay next next thing on our list was three just notes to just let the trustees know first chips money have. 292 00:25:16.500 --> 00:25:20.520 Richard Fortunato: 120 8000 and change for the broadway paving is in. 293 00:25:20.820 --> 00:25:21.390 We have it. 294 00:25:24.360 --> 00:25:27.390 18456426153: Rich we repeat that amount oh i'm sorry Carol. 295 00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:32.400 Richard Fortunato: 128 984 14 cents. 296 00:25:34.110 --> 00:25:34.530 michael esmay: it's. 297 00:25:35.970 --> 00:25:36.990 Richard Fortunato: 14 cents. 298 00:25:38.610 --> 00:25:42.360 Richard Fortunato: Jenny Thank you know to marry Andrew Cuomo and Albany. 299 00:25:44.340 --> 00:25:47.910 Richard Fortunato: also happy to report the rental. 300 00:25:48.450 --> 00:25:51.720 Richard Fortunato: Is the rental checks are coming in right on time. 301 00:25:52.110 --> 00:25:56.160 Richard Fortunato: so happy to report that for the last few months right on. 302 00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:57.960 Richard Fortunato: schedule, making my day. 303 00:25:58.290 --> 00:26:00.450 Richard Fortunato: And i'm also happy to report that all the. 304 00:26:02.310 --> 00:26:04.290 Richard Fortunato: To all of our independent contractors are. 305 00:26:04.320 --> 00:26:05.070 18456426153: out the door. 306 00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:06.720 Karen Tarapata: In the mouth oh that's. 307 00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:07.260 Great. 308 00:26:09.360 --> 00:26:19.710 Richard Fortunato: that's it that's all I got if anybody has any questions I know there's a lot not financial statement, but, as always, if anyone has any questions just call myself throughout the week and I will. 309 00:26:20.010 --> 00:26:21.210 Richard Fortunato: Answer whatever questions you. 310 00:26:21.210 --> 00:26:21.630 Have. 311 00:26:24.600 --> 00:26:25.620 Karen Tarapata: Well, thank you very much. 312 00:26:26.970 --> 00:26:29.850 Richard Fortunato: All right, great Okay, thank you guys. 313 00:26:29.940 --> 00:26:31.500 Richard Fortunato: Congratulations, I believe. 314 00:26:34.260 --> 00:26:36.690 Karen Tarapata: it's ready, but I want to stay on for this one is this. 315 00:26:37.710 --> 00:26:39.930 18456426153: Is the next next. 316 00:26:40.080 --> 00:26:41.130 Richard Fortunato: Okay i'm gonna stay for. 317 00:26:42.690 --> 00:26:56.700 Karen Tarapata: Free well today, I just want to say that nyack news and views did a an article on our dp w and it's very fitting that it was published today when we're here to honor. 318 00:26:57.450 --> 00:27:06.780 Karen Tarapata: William phase 20 years of service to the village of upper nyack Is it actually was a few months ago, but because of coven everything got delayed. 319 00:27:07.590 --> 00:27:08.670 Karen Tarapata: And so. 320 00:27:08.760 --> 00:27:09.840 18456426153: I would just say we're. 321 00:27:10.050 --> 00:27:11.970 Karen Tarapata: we're here to thank you billy is. 322 00:27:11.970 --> 00:27:15.030 Karen Tarapata: Our weatherman really he's the one that. 323 00:27:15.570 --> 00:27:26.700 Karen Tarapata: forcing the forecast what's coming up and also bill really is our infrastructure expert he has I think you've been in every catch basin. 324 00:27:28.170 --> 00:27:29.130 Karen Tarapata: In your 20 years. 325 00:27:30.210 --> 00:27:32.670 Me Fay !!!!: Probably real close to it right. 326 00:27:33.780 --> 00:27:34.050 Karen Tarapata: you're. 327 00:27:34.080 --> 00:27:35.160 Karen Tarapata: close to it and I. 328 00:27:35.160 --> 00:27:38.010 Karen Tarapata: Think, without a doubt, everyone in the village. 329 00:27:38.610 --> 00:27:47.670 Karen Tarapata: recognizes the efforts that you've put in people low I think that's the favorite part of a village government is the dp w. 330 00:27:48.990 --> 00:27:50.400 Karen Tarapata: Everybody loves you guys. 331 00:27:50.460 --> 00:27:59.940 Karen Tarapata: I just want to say we are so happy to have you and our crew and we hope that you stay for many, many more years. 332 00:28:00.510 --> 00:28:01.890 18456426153: I have here. 333 00:28:02.670 --> 00:28:08.550 Karen Tarapata: He got you a very nice certificate from the New York years. 334 00:28:09.810 --> 00:28:11.430 18456426153: honoring your twin nurse. 335 00:28:12.120 --> 00:28:18.450 Karen Tarapata: And we just want to we're going to present this to you, it says New York county conference of Mayors. 336 00:28:18.510 --> 00:28:19.710 Karen Tarapata: and municipal officials. 337 00:28:20.550 --> 00:28:36.120 Karen Tarapata: presents this 20 years certificate of public service to wm fame and recognition of 20 years of distinguished public service to your community, the New York state conference of mayors is pleased and honored to publicly acknowledge your dedication and commitment. 338 00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:38.250 Karen Tarapata: So. 339 00:28:38.610 --> 00:28:39.990 Me Fay !!!!: that's wonderful Thank you so much. 340 00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:44.820 Karen Tarapata: And what are they saying billy we got you. 341 00:28:44.850 --> 00:28:45.930 18456426153: A brand new leather me. 342 00:28:46.800 --> 00:28:47.850 Karen Tarapata: We know that your. 343 00:28:47.910 --> 00:28:51.450 Karen Tarapata: your letter man, you said it was sold and so broken they couldn't fix it. 344 00:28:52.800 --> 00:28:54.540 Karen Tarapata: Nice new heavy duty one. 345 00:28:54.600 --> 00:28:57.210 Karen Tarapata: It says it's good for 25 years. 346 00:28:57.930 --> 00:29:01.950 Karen Tarapata: So, by the time this is shot, you will have been with us for 45 years. 347 00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:07.860 Me Fay !!!!: that's really nice Thank you so much, thank you. 348 00:29:08.340 --> 00:29:11.820 Karen Tarapata: Welcome would anyone else, like to speak about billy's. 349 00:29:15.030 --> 00:29:15.180 18456426153: But. 350 00:29:15.270 --> 00:29:18.000 Ken Rothchild: I saw i'll jump in quickly i'll just say that. 351 00:29:18.120 --> 00:29:23.310 Ken Rothchild: You understand believe that that leatherman requires you to not retire for 45 years. 352 00:29:26.730 --> 00:29:28.320 Me Fay !!!!: i've got don't worry. 353 00:29:28.800 --> 00:29:29.430 Ken Rothchild: No, I. 354 00:29:29.730 --> 00:29:40.500 Ken Rothchild: I I one of my great pleasures about being a resident for nyack is seeing the great work that are deep pw department does, and you as a as a significant part of that. 355 00:29:40.530 --> 00:29:42.690 Ken Rothchild: So thank you so much for the. 356 00:29:42.690 --> 00:29:46.230 Ken Rothchild: Service you've rendered us so far and I hope it continues for many more years. 357 00:29:47.010 --> 00:29:48.060 18456426153: Thank you, thank you very much. 358 00:29:48.630 --> 00:29:53.220 lauriedodge: I sentence you guys have a great attitude and you're a great leader. 359 00:29:54.090 --> 00:29:54.510 18456426153: Thank you. 360 00:29:54.630 --> 00:29:55.470 18456426153: We got a good. 361 00:29:55.530 --> 00:29:56.520 Me Fay !!!!: got a good team going. 362 00:29:57.300 --> 00:30:00.120 Me Fay !!!!: delete congratulations, thank you, thank you. 363 00:30:00.570 --> 00:30:01.770 sylviajeff: hey congratulations. 364 00:30:01.770 --> 00:30:03.150 18456426153: And thank you for me as well. 365 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:03.930 Me Fay !!!!: We appreciate it. 366 00:30:05.340 --> 00:30:06.270 Richard Fortunato: Congratulations. 367 00:30:07.140 --> 00:30:07.650 Me Fay !!!!: Thanks rich. 368 00:30:09.300 --> 00:30:09.750 Me Fay !!!!: I don't see. 369 00:30:10.620 --> 00:30:11.130 18456426153: have this. 370 00:30:11.370 --> 00:30:14.040 Karen Tarapata: recorded so you'll be able to save the video. 371 00:30:16.200 --> 00:30:17.100 Karen Tarapata: Somebody later. 372 00:30:18.270 --> 00:30:23.370 Me Fay !!!!: I saw that up in the corner and I was fiddling with it because i'm like did I do something wrong here I don't know I didn't know what was going on. 373 00:30:25.260 --> 00:30:28.290 lauriedodge: No more netflix for you and you have a village meeting. 374 00:30:32.550 --> 00:30:37.080 Karen Tarapata: Okay, would anyone else, like to speak to it, or shall we just let it go and enjoy his. 375 00:30:40.410 --> 00:30:41.040 little calmer. 376 00:30:42.660 --> 00:30:44.070 Me Fay !!!!: Congratulations bill. 377 00:30:44.820 --> 00:30:46.170 18456426153: Thank you, thank you very much. 378 00:30:46.740 --> 00:30:47.850 lauriedodge: Have a great night. 379 00:30:48.330 --> 00:30:49.980 Karen Tarapata: Have a great night bill will see you. 380 00:30:49.980 --> 00:30:50.520 tomorrow. 381 00:30:52.500 --> 00:30:52.920 Me Fay !!!!: Right. 382 00:30:53.100 --> 00:30:54.420 michael esmay: It was the next snow. 383 00:30:54.420 --> 00:30:54.900 storm. 384 00:30:56.940 --> 00:30:57.930 Me Fay !!!!: Well it's not looking good. 385 00:30:59.580 --> 00:31:00.240 Me Fay !!!!: Well, for small. 386 00:31:00.450 --> 00:31:03.420 Me Fay !!!!: way, if you like, son don't worry you got plenty of a common. 387 00:31:03.750 --> 00:31:04.170 lauriedodge: that's good. 388 00:31:04.830 --> 00:31:05.250 sylviajeff: that's good. 389 00:31:08.130 --> 00:31:09.690 Karen Tarapata: Alright, have a great night. 390 00:31:10.740 --> 00:31:12.150 Me Fay !!!!: we'll do Thank you so much, everyone. 391 00:31:12.570 --> 00:31:12.870 sylviajeff: good night. 392 00:31:12.930 --> 00:31:13.410 Thank you. 393 00:31:15.210 --> 00:31:15.480 Ken Rothchild: Good. 394 00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:17.130 Richard Fortunato: Night everybody. 395 00:31:17.850 --> 00:31:18.420 Ken Rothchild: very rich. 396 00:31:18.570 --> 00:31:19.110 rich. 397 00:31:20.160 --> 00:31:20.610 18456426153: rich. 398 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:29.640 Karen Tarapata: Was fun, we never get to do anything ceremonial we're always. 399 00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:31.500 18456426153: Business business business that. 400 00:31:31.500 --> 00:31:32.280 18456426153: was really fun. 401 00:31:34.860 --> 00:31:36.810 lauriedodge: We were all together, we could have had a cake. 402 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:39.660 18456426153: Exactly. 403 00:31:40.320 --> 00:31:41.550 We could have had cake. 404 00:31:46.410 --> 00:31:46.920 lauriedodge: But i'm. 405 00:31:47.040 --> 00:31:51.450 lauriedodge: sure he will appreciate and enjoy and use the weatherman. 406 00:31:52.830 --> 00:31:58.290 Karen Tarapata: When I was he was he was rushing I said you don't have a you know, a knife with you, and he goes no my letter man. 407 00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:00.240 Karen Tarapata: everything's broken and then. 408 00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:01.770 Karen Tarapata: They can't get parts and i've. 409 00:32:01.770 --> 00:32:04.890 Karen Tarapata: Had it forever So this was a good thing. 410 00:32:05.850 --> 00:32:07.110 Karen Tarapata: next thing we need to do. 411 00:32:07.110 --> 00:32:07.290 18456426153: It. 412 00:32:07.410 --> 00:32:08.700 Karen Tarapata: it's not on the agenda. 413 00:32:08.730 --> 00:32:09.960 Karen Tarapata: But I think this is a good time. 414 00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:11.760 Karen Tarapata: To do it before we start our public. 415 00:32:11.760 --> 00:32:13.800 Karen Tarapata: hearings of. 416 00:32:14.550 --> 00:32:16.470 Karen Tarapata: Ellen Simpson has retired from. 417 00:32:16.470 --> 00:32:17.340 18456426153: The plan before. 418 00:32:18.450 --> 00:32:21.690 Karen Tarapata: And after I don't even know how many years, Michael. 419 00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:22.950 18456426153: Do you think she was. 420 00:32:22.980 --> 00:32:25.770 18456426153: involved on the planning board what. 421 00:32:26.250 --> 00:32:29.850 michael esmay: Is there to guess 30 a bit. 422 00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:32.130 michael esmay: long time. 423 00:32:34.620 --> 00:32:36.810 Karen Tarapata: So she has finally taken her. 424 00:32:37.020 --> 00:32:40.140 Karen Tarapata: well deserved retirement and bill fast. 425 00:32:40.230 --> 00:32:46.440 Karen Tarapata: has asked me to appoint Karen olson as the vice chair to the planning board. 426 00:32:47.190 --> 00:32:47.910 michael esmay: Good choice. 427 00:32:48.810 --> 00:32:51.000 18456426153: also been on the board for a long time how long. 428 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:52.980 Karen Tarapata: Do you think karen's been involved Mike. 429 00:32:53.940 --> 00:32:55.410 lauriedodge: 10 plus years, I think. 430 00:32:55.800 --> 00:32:56.580 michael esmay: More than that. 431 00:32:57.030 --> 00:33:03.390 lauriedodge: yeah I walked with her The other day I asked to that I don't remember exactly what she was a while. 432 00:33:05.790 --> 00:33:08.130 Karen Tarapata: So that's a really excellent choice. 433 00:33:08.370 --> 00:33:09.870 Karen Tarapata: So I would ask. 434 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:11.760 Karen Tarapata: For a resolution. 435 00:33:12.210 --> 00:33:18.480 Karen Tarapata: Ratifying her appointment as vice, Chair of the planning Board of village opera. 436 00:33:19.980 --> 00:33:23.130 michael esmay: This is Mike I would very much like to make that resolution. 437 00:33:24.510 --> 00:33:25.890 lauriedodge: it's lori i'll second that. 438 00:33:27.210 --> 00:33:30.150 Karen Tarapata: Great all in favor say Aye. 439 00:33:31.320 --> 00:33:32.010 michael esmay: Mike I. 440 00:33:33.150 --> 00:33:33.960 lauriedodge: Sorry, I. 441 00:33:35.100 --> 00:33:35.760 Ken Rothchild: Can I. 442 00:33:36.780 --> 00:33:37.680 sylviajeff: If I. 443 00:33:39.210 --> 00:33:44.730 Karen Tarapata: Marion i'm alright Well let her know it's. 444 00:33:45.750 --> 00:33:46.170 Karen Tarapata: ready to. 445 00:33:46.470 --> 00:33:48.060 18456426153: Go but we're very fortunate to. 446 00:33:48.060 --> 00:33:51.570 Karen Tarapata: have very competent people on our planning board. 447 00:33:53.340 --> 00:33:54.330 18456426153: All our boards. 448 00:33:55.230 --> 00:33:58.620 Karen Tarapata: All our boards all our words we're very lucky. 449 00:33:59.820 --> 00:34:01.440 Karen Tarapata: In the couple Minutes that we have. 450 00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:03.030 18456426153: left before this public. 451 00:34:03.030 --> 00:34:03.480 hearing. 452 00:34:05.070 --> 00:34:05.280 Karen Tarapata: I. 453 00:34:05.370 --> 00:34:11.160 Karen Tarapata: Just like to say, we talked about the of the guide rail that got damaged on North broadway in old mountain road. 454 00:34:12.180 --> 00:34:13.170 Karen Tarapata: i'm found out. 455 00:34:13.200 --> 00:34:15.900 Karen Tarapata: That it is it wasn't covered. 456 00:34:16.080 --> 00:34:18.480 18456426153: In our pub baby come as. 457 00:34:18.810 --> 00:34:20.370 Karen Tarapata: We never had any. 458 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:21.360 Karen Tarapata: schedule. 459 00:34:21.570 --> 00:34:22.920 18456426153: Of those structures. 460 00:34:23.730 --> 00:34:24.420 Some. 461 00:34:25.740 --> 00:34:26.400 18456426153: wasn't. 462 00:34:26.670 --> 00:34:30.180 Karen Tarapata: It wasn't a schedule wasn't it wasn't covered. 463 00:34:30.630 --> 00:34:35.040 Karen Tarapata: With is unfortunate so we've had btw measure all our. 464 00:34:35.070 --> 00:34:38.730 Karen Tarapata: guide rails and we are getting the information over and they're going to come back. 465 00:34:38.730 --> 00:34:39.240 18456426153: To us. 466 00:34:39.600 --> 00:34:43.560 Karen Tarapata: With a prize for adding that coverage and we can make a determination once we. 467 00:34:43.980 --> 00:34:45.720 Karen Tarapata: know what the blood, it will cost. 468 00:34:48.240 --> 00:34:52.050 sylviajeff: Do we think there's anything else that could fall into that black hole of things that. 469 00:34:52.080 --> 00:34:53.460 sylviajeff: We wouldn't normally think of. 470 00:34:53.520 --> 00:34:54.540 18456426153: That should be covered. 471 00:34:54.630 --> 00:34:57.150 sylviajeff: I mean guardrails wouldn't have come to my mind, but. 472 00:34:57.840 --> 00:34:58.800 michael esmay: Good question. 473 00:35:00.780 --> 00:35:01.680 18456426153: I don't know. 474 00:35:03.240 --> 00:35:04.200 Karen Tarapata: we're thinking of. 475 00:35:04.830 --> 00:35:05.550 Karen Tarapata: yeah I guess. 476 00:35:05.610 --> 00:35:07.830 Karen Tarapata: That would be the thing to get once again look. 477 00:35:08.100 --> 00:35:09.210 18456426153: At the policy and see. 478 00:35:09.210 --> 00:35:16.230 Karen Tarapata: What we have covered and then just try and figure out if there's anything we've overlooked. 479 00:35:16.950 --> 00:35:18.240 sylviajeff: Does the company waffle. 480 00:35:18.240 --> 00:35:18.600 18456426153: Like. 481 00:35:18.660 --> 00:35:20.490 sylviajeff: A punch list of things that they. 482 00:35:20.520 --> 00:35:23.460 sylviajeff: do offer coverage for that we could just sort of zip through. 483 00:35:24.720 --> 00:35:25.770 sylviajeff: Or is that going to be like. 484 00:35:26.130 --> 00:35:28.290 sylviajeff: 40 pages long, and just stuff that doesn't. 485 00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:32.310 18456426153: I don't know. 486 00:35:32.490 --> 00:35:35.340 Karen Tarapata: I think they'd love to they love to sell us more insurance. 487 00:35:36.990 --> 00:35:37.440 sylviajeff: like that. 488 00:35:41.250 --> 00:35:42.810 Karen Tarapata: We can ask, we can ask. 489 00:35:44.850 --> 00:35:46.260 Karen Tarapata: ask our insurance agent. 490 00:35:47.580 --> 00:35:48.420 Karen Tarapata: I may have written down. 491 00:35:48.450 --> 00:35:49.950 Karen Tarapata: Anything else question mark. 492 00:35:51.900 --> 00:36:07.320 Karen Tarapata: Oh, and I looked I checked out those of the flashing led stop signs they're not going to help during the day and at night we really don't have a problem they don't they don't really flesh right enough during the day, to do more. 493 00:36:08.490 --> 00:36:09.780 Karen Tarapata: To really do much. 494 00:36:11.370 --> 00:36:20.700 Ken Rothchild: You know i'm not sure right, I mean i'm not sure that they do much anyway, just because people zoom through signs, even if they see them. 495 00:36:21.420 --> 00:36:23.160 18456426153: But when I was down in. 496 00:36:23.250 --> 00:36:29.550 Ken Rothchild: Florida they had a number of locations, or they had flashing led stop sides and they weren't distinctly noticeable. 497 00:36:30.750 --> 00:36:32.310 Ken Rothchild: Compared to a regular one. 498 00:36:33.060 --> 00:36:33.840 Ken Rothchild: again. 499 00:36:34.110 --> 00:36:35.040 Karen Tarapata: i'm not sure they. 500 00:36:35.850 --> 00:36:36.690 Karen Tarapata: Do they have had like to. 501 00:36:37.680 --> 00:36:38.550 Ken Rothchild: add the red lights. 502 00:36:38.730 --> 00:36:41.520 Ken Rothchild: yeah red lights on force on the sides. 503 00:36:42.450 --> 00:36:43.890 18456426153: How did you react to those. 504 00:36:44.070 --> 00:36:47.640 Ken Rothchild: Signs I slowed my bike down mostly because they. 505 00:36:47.640 --> 00:36:48.030 Ken Rothchild: Were big. 506 00:36:48.060 --> 00:36:48.810 trucks next. 507 00:36:50.910 --> 00:36:54.780 Jillana Sinnott: The ones I saw down in this is chill down, and I think it's. 508 00:36:56.190 --> 00:36:57.750 Jillana Sinnott: Like park Ridge New Jersey. 509 00:36:58.140 --> 00:37:06.630 Jillana Sinnott: Those are extremely visible during the day it was during the day I was there and it's almost like LED lights, all the way around the STOP sign. 510 00:37:07.050 --> 00:37:19.230 Jillana Sinnott: And like on the post and it really caught your attention, like wow stop, and this was like two o'clock in the afternoon so maybe it's just something different, that I saw than what you're looking at, but. 511 00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:29.610 Karen Tarapata: I think that's what we need to do is go down and see if there's a sticker on those as to who's supplying them because different things that we're looking at, so the one that the. 512 00:37:29.640 --> 00:37:31.020 18456426153: company that approached me. 513 00:37:31.770 --> 00:37:32.910 Karen Tarapata: there's when we're kind of. 514 00:37:38.160 --> 00:37:38.430 Karen Tarapata: Like. 515 00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:40.170 Karen Tarapata: Maybe at night. 516 00:37:40.260 --> 00:37:43.620 Karen Tarapata: At night it's great, but if not, we don't have a problem right it's. 517 00:37:43.680 --> 00:37:44.250 Karen Tarapata: Really during. 518 00:37:45.510 --> 00:37:46.260 Karen Tarapata: during the day. 519 00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:47.460 Karen Tarapata: During the rush hour is. 520 00:37:48.240 --> 00:37:50.430 Jillana Sinnott: Anybody going towards park Ridge over were. 521 00:37:52.020 --> 00:37:55.410 Jillana Sinnott: Actually rugged outfitters was right around there somewhere where we saw. 522 00:37:55.410 --> 00:37:57.540 Jillana Sinnott: them so i'll try to remember next time I. 523 00:37:57.540 --> 00:38:02.970 Jillana Sinnott: Pass, but they definitely caught my attention, the first thing I thought of who we need that a castle heights. 524 00:38:04.380 --> 00:38:04.620 18456426153: yeah. 525 00:38:06.030 --> 00:38:10.050 Karen Tarapata: We do, maybe at the top and the bottom there's people blow through both. 526 00:38:10.770 --> 00:38:12.840 18456426153: yeah I think yeah I was. 527 00:38:12.930 --> 00:38:14.550 Karen Tarapata: I was under one on. 528 00:38:14.610 --> 00:38:15.660 Karen Tarapata: One the one that I. 529 00:38:15.810 --> 00:38:16.560 18456426153: had looked at. 530 00:38:16.590 --> 00:38:17.820 Karen Tarapata: And I just wanted to share that. 531 00:38:19.230 --> 00:38:21.120 Karen Tarapata: Okay, it is 730. 532 00:38:22.140 --> 00:38:26.790 Karen Tarapata: So we are going to have the public hearing for our tree preservation law. 533 00:38:27.930 --> 00:38:30.540 Karen Tarapata: So Carol what you read the public hearing notice. 534 00:38:32.820 --> 00:38:40.800 18456426153: notice of public hearing village of upper nyack 328 North broadway upper nyack New York 1096 so. 535 00:38:41.550 --> 00:38:49.890 18456426153: Please take notice that the board of trustees of the village of upper nyack hold a public hearing in January 21 2021. 536 00:38:50.430 --> 00:39:03.930 18456426153: At 7:30pm to consider the adoption of the proposed local law, the tree preservation law and acting regulations pertaining to the preservation and removal of trees within the village of upper nyack. 537 00:39:04.710 --> 00:39:13.560 18456426153: This law will also be known as local law number one of 2021 full text of the proposed law is available in the villages website. 538 00:39:15.630 --> 00:39:16.830 18456426153: www dot. 539 00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:24.840 18456426153: dot us due to the coven 19 emergency village Board of Trustees will not be meeting in person. 540 00:39:25.650 --> 00:39:33.690 18456426153: In accordance with the governor's executive order to 02 point one The meeting will be held via zoom video conferencing. 541 00:39:34.260 --> 00:39:42.060 18456426153: And a transcript will be provided at a later date, the public will have the opportunity to see and hear the meeting live and provide comments. 542 00:39:42.630 --> 00:39:52.080 18456426153: to access the meeting pleases villages website for ID and password comments and questions can also be provided by email before the meeting. 543 00:39:52.470 --> 00:40:04.740 18456426153: To Carol G brotherhood village clerk at village dot clerk at upper nyack dash and white.us dated December 21 2020 terrell G brotherhood's village clerk. 544 00:40:08.160 --> 00:40:09.060 Karen Tarapata: Thank you Carol. 545 00:40:09.750 --> 00:40:10.170 You. 546 00:40:12.060 --> 00:40:15.780 Karen Tarapata: know, and I have worked on and sort of introduction to this. 547 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:16.980 Karen Tarapata: And why we feel. 548 00:40:16.980 --> 00:40:18.000 18456426153: That this is. 549 00:40:18.060 --> 00:40:19.650 Karen Tarapata: The right thing to do at this. 550 00:40:19.680 --> 00:40:20.190 Time. 551 00:40:21.570 --> 00:40:28.050 Karen Tarapata: Of the tree preservation local laws have proposed law to replace the tree maintenance and management. 552 00:40:28.050 --> 00:40:30.120 Karen Tarapata: regulations currently in the villages. 553 00:40:30.120 --> 00:40:31.170 Karen Tarapata: zoning law. 554 00:40:32.370 --> 00:40:41.010 Karen Tarapata: The current law regulates the removal of significant trees in the village it defines a significant tree is any tree with a trunk diameter. 555 00:40:41.340 --> 00:40:41.520 Karen Tarapata: That. 556 00:40:41.550 --> 00:40:48.360 Karen Tarapata: equals or exceeds 16 inches at breast height, in general, good health of such theses as achieve. 557 00:40:48.390 --> 00:40:49.890 Karen Tarapata: A canopy spread of 40. 558 00:40:50.100 --> 00:40:51.810 Karen Tarapata: Or, more feet in diameter. 559 00:40:52.140 --> 00:40:53.220 Karen Tarapata: Upon maturity. 560 00:40:54.270 --> 00:40:55.860 Karen Tarapata: depending upon the scope. 561 00:40:57.420 --> 00:41:06.150 Karen Tarapata: excusing depending upon the reason in scope of the treatment mobile to mobile permits are issued administratively by the building inspector or by the plan. 562 00:41:08.250 --> 00:41:18.810 Karen Tarapata: The draft comprehensive plan recommends at the village consider comprehensive legislation regarding the regulation of treaties, it recommends, among other things, legislation. 563 00:41:20.460 --> 00:41:22.410 Karen Tarapata: recommends one other thing is consolidating. 564 00:41:24.810 --> 00:41:26.040 Karen Tarapata: It recommend sorry. 565 00:41:29.220 --> 00:41:44.850 Karen Tarapata: It recommends, among other things, consolidating the villages tree management regulations in the Community forestry regulations applying more stringent regulations to tree removal applications adopting comprehensive protocols for the planting of street trees. 566 00:41:45.540 --> 00:41:47.610 18456426153: and regulating or providing guidance for the. 567 00:41:47.610 --> 00:41:50.250 Karen Tarapata: types of trees that should be planted in the village. 568 00:41:51.030 --> 00:42:02.910 Karen Tarapata: developing these regulations, following that continued review and adoption of the comprehensive planning and zoning law changes that will be necessary to implement its terms will take time and careful analysis. 569 00:42:03.780 --> 00:42:10.770 Karen Tarapata: In the meantime, there are many mature and valuable trees that well below the threshold of the current definition of significant. 570 00:42:10.770 --> 00:42:11.250 18456426153: tree. 571 00:42:12.030 --> 00:42:17.280 Karen Tarapata: That in many circumstances can be removed, for any reason, with no administrative review. 572 00:42:18.480 --> 00:42:22.590 Karen Tarapata: Once removed these mature trees are not easily or quickly replaced. 573 00:42:23.100 --> 00:42:24.960 18456426153: The purpose of the legislation. 574 00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:31.290 Karen Tarapata: Presented tonight is to redefine what constitutes a significant tree to cast a broader net of. 575 00:42:31.290 --> 00:42:31.890 Karen Tarapata: trees. 576 00:42:32.100 --> 00:42:33.930 Karen Tarapata: Subject to review prior to that. 577 00:42:34.230 --> 00:42:44.100 Karen Tarapata: movil to be more protective of the environment during the period before the more comprehensive tree regulations contemplated by the comprehensive plan can be developed. 578 00:42:45.420 --> 00:42:50.730 Karen Tarapata: As currently proposed the local law would expand the type of trees, subject to review prior to. 579 00:42:50.730 --> 00:42:51.480 18456426153: The removal. 580 00:42:52.050 --> 00:43:01.410 Karen Tarapata: To include trees, with the diameter at breast height of 12 inches or greater generally or eight inches or higher on steep slopes. 581 00:43:02.010 --> 00:43:15.810 Karen Tarapata: Removal of trees in a significant standard trees, meaning five or more trees, the same species that form the same drip line with a diameter six inches or greater would also be subject to review before they can be removed. 582 00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:24.330 Karen Tarapata: While the law subjects more trees to review before they can be removed, it does not impose a broad prohibition on the removal of treats. 583 00:43:25.050 --> 00:43:41.730 Karen Tarapata: It recognizes the tree removal is appropriate and necessary in many circumstances to allow for the safe and reasonable use of property, the law tries to balance the preservation and protection of mature trees, with the right to use private property in a reasonable manner. 584 00:43:42.900 --> 00:43:54.090 Karen Tarapata: The law also seeks to clarify the administrative procedures and standards that apply to tree removal applications and provides a mechanism for enforcement and penalties for offense. 585 00:43:55.710 --> 00:44:03.930 Karen Tarapata: The proposal Alkali has been distributed to the board members and was posted on the villages website for public review the village Forrester, has. 586 00:44:04.080 --> 00:44:06.450 Karen Tarapata: reviewed the proposed draft of the law. 587 00:44:07.050 --> 00:44:11.790 Karen Tarapata: and has provided a comprehensive set of comments, which are also on the villages website. 588 00:44:13.050 --> 00:44:25.440 Karen Tarapata: We expect that will want to consider some revision to the draft of the local law currently proposed to incorporate the village foresters suggestions, it would be helpful to have feedback. 589 00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:26.610 Karen Tarapata: from members of the board. 590 00:44:27.030 --> 00:44:33.480 Karen Tarapata: and comments from the public, so we can provide a comprehensive revision for further consideration by the board. 591 00:44:34.470 --> 00:44:35.850 18456426153: In terms of process. 592 00:44:36.090 --> 00:44:37.470 Karen Tarapata: Before we open the hearing. 593 00:44:37.500 --> 00:44:40.770 Karen Tarapata: We must review the secret environmental assessment for. 594 00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:42.180 Karen Tarapata: That was circulated with local. 595 00:44:42.180 --> 00:44:47.580 Karen Tarapata: Law formally classify the matter before us as an unlisted action under. 596 00:44:47.580 --> 00:44:51.030 Karen Tarapata: Secret review, part two of the environmental assessment. 597 00:44:51.030 --> 00:44:55.980 Karen Tarapata: form that was circulated with the local law, and if we feel we are able to. 598 00:44:56.070 --> 00:44:57.690 Karen Tarapata: A tough nation. 599 00:44:57.720 --> 00:44:58.740 18456426153: of significance. 600 00:45:01.980 --> 00:45:03.480 18456426153: No, I think i'm gonna let. 601 00:45:04.830 --> 00:45:06.750 Karen Tarapata: You will speak a little bit about. 602 00:45:06.780 --> 00:45:08.130 Karen Tarapata: What the short environmental. 603 00:45:08.130 --> 00:45:09.420 Karen Tarapata: Assessment form is. 604 00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:10.200 Karen Tarapata: And why. 605 00:45:10.230 --> 00:45:10.980 We need it. 606 00:45:12.540 --> 00:45:24.690 Noelle Wolfson: All right, good evening everyone, so I just want to give just a general broad overview of seager I know we've talked about it in the past with respect to other local laws, but it's always good to have a bit of a refresher. 607 00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:38.340 Noelle Wolfson: in secret, is a State law that requires agencies to consider the environment before taking certain actions and the adoption of the local law that's currently before you would be an action, subject to see grow. 608 00:45:39.540 --> 00:45:46.440 Noelle Wolfson: To assist you in evaluating the environmental impacts of the action before you secret classifies types of actions into various. 609 00:45:46.440 --> 00:45:50.070 Noelle Wolfson: categories and then the Department of environmental conservation has. 610 00:45:50.070 --> 00:46:05.640 Noelle Wolfson: promulgated forms called environmental assessment forums to help you evaluate the potential environmental impacts of an action before you so secret generally classifies actions in two ways and there's kind of a de facto third category, there are tight to actions. 611 00:46:05.970 --> 00:46:11.070 Noelle Wolfson: That are sort of as a matter of law determine not to have any significant impact on the environment. 612 00:46:11.370 --> 00:46:17.430 Noelle Wolfson: And therefore, no secret review of those types of actions is required, then there's so called Type one actions. 613 00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:29.040 Noelle Wolfson: And those actions are more likely to have a significant environmental impact and therefore more likely, although not certain to require the preparation of an analysis under an environmental impact statement. 614 00:46:29.460 --> 00:46:41.490 Noelle Wolfson: Before an action can be taken, and then there are actions such as the one before you tonight they're called unlisted because they are neither Type two nor Type one that's kind of everything else that falls into the category of action. 615 00:46:42.930 --> 00:46:44.850 Noelle Wolfson: When the DC has promulgated something called. 616 00:46:44.880 --> 00:46:46.650 18456426153: A short environmental assess for. 617 00:46:46.710 --> 00:47:00.090 Noelle Wolfson: Mid form that's appropriate for most of these unlisted actions so that has been distributed to you, and you can take a look at it, it provides you know description of the proposed law it goes through, and that description, a lot of. 618 00:47:00.090 --> 00:47:03.750 Noelle Wolfson: What Karen just explained and that's in Part one of the. 619 00:47:04.140 --> 00:47:05.550 18456426153: Until assessment form. 620 00:47:06.390 --> 00:47:08.280 Noelle Wolfson: Then, part two, is the part that you're. 621 00:47:08.310 --> 00:47:12.330 Noelle Wolfson: More to discuss this evening to try to evaluate the relative environmental. 622 00:47:12.330 --> 00:47:14.040 18456426153: impacts of the afternoon for you. 623 00:47:14.340 --> 00:47:19.350 Noelle Wolfson: And to help you with that process, there are some guiding questions to help you think about an. 624 00:47:19.380 --> 00:47:20.520 infringer analysis. 625 00:47:21.600 --> 00:47:27.210 Noelle Wolfson: The end of evaluating the impacts, you can decide number one that this action is not likely to have. 626 00:47:27.210 --> 00:47:30.120 Noelle Wolfson: any potential for significant environmental impacts. 627 00:47:30.150 --> 00:47:33.540 Noelle Wolfson: negative environmental impacts and if that is your determination. 628 00:47:33.570 --> 00:47:34.800 18456426153: Then you adopt something called a. 629 00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:36.180 18456426153: Negative declaration. 630 00:47:36.300 --> 00:47:37.770 Noelle Wolfson: of environmental significance. 631 00:47:37.860 --> 00:47:40.620 18456426153: And that ends the secret review process if. 632 00:47:40.890 --> 00:47:54.630 Noelle Wolfson: after evaluating this information, and if you feel like any other information is needed, you determine that there is the potential for a significant negative environmental impact, as a result of this action, you would adopt something called a positive declaration. 633 00:47:54.660 --> 00:47:56.070 18456426153: And then you would have to proceed to a. 634 00:47:56.070 --> 00:47:57.780 Noelle Wolfson: full environmental impact statement. 635 00:47:57.780 --> 00:47:58.320 Noelle Wolfson: process. 636 00:47:58.770 --> 00:48:02.700 Noelle Wolfson: Which is a lengthy and detailed environmental analysis of the action. 637 00:48:02.700 --> 00:48:03.330 18456426153: Before you. 638 00:48:05.490 --> 00:48:16.380 Noelle Wolfson: So with that I think it would be appropriate to turn to the the if if you want to look through the part one, the description of the action is very similar to what Karen just described. 639 00:48:16.740 --> 00:48:18.210 Noelle Wolfson: And if we were proposing kind of. 640 00:48:18.210 --> 00:48:21.840 Noelle Wolfson: A project specific action, we would go through more information, like. 641 00:48:22.170 --> 00:48:32.670 Noelle Wolfson: the specifics of the property that it would be applied to the amount of disturbance means of water and sewer surfaces, but because what we're dealing with here is sort of regulatory legislation. 642 00:48:33.090 --> 00:48:40.500 Noelle Wolfson: We don't go through those questions for this environmental impact statement or this environmental assessment form, so we just take that description, then we can go right. 643 00:48:40.500 --> 00:48:41.190 18456426153: To part two. 644 00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:46.650 Karen Tarapata: Part two 645 00:48:47.070 --> 00:48:51.690 Karen Tarapata: And 11 questions here for our discussion. 646 00:48:52.710 --> 00:48:53.550 Karen Tarapata: Well, the proposed. 647 00:48:53.580 --> 00:48:55.830 18456426153: Action create a material conflict. 648 00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:58.410 Karen Tarapata: With an adapted land use plan or zoning. 649 00:48:58.410 --> 00:49:00.420 18456426153: Regulation No. 650 00:49:01.200 --> 00:49:01.620 No. 651 00:49:03.540 --> 00:49:10.710 Karen Tarapata: The second one, will the proposed action, result in a change in the use or intensity of use and land, no. 652 00:49:11.520 --> 00:49:13.530 18456426153: No, because actually it's it. 653 00:49:14.370 --> 00:49:15.990 Karen Tarapata: doesn't have to do with the intensity. 654 00:49:17.460 --> 00:49:22.140 Karen Tarapata: Well, the proposed action impair the character or quality of the existing Community. 655 00:49:24.420 --> 00:49:25.080 michael esmay: No, no. 656 00:49:26.580 --> 00:49:41.340 Karen Tarapata: Well, the proposed action have an impact on the environmental characteristics that caused the establishment of a critical environmental area we don't have any critical environmental areas mapped currently in the village, so no. 657 00:49:43.620 --> 00:49:43.950 Karen Tarapata: I. 658 00:49:43.980 --> 00:49:47.190 Karen Tarapata: will propose action result in an adverse change. 659 00:49:47.220 --> 00:49:51.750 Karen Tarapata: In the existing level of traffic or exit affect existing infrastructure for mass. 660 00:49:51.750 --> 00:49:52.710 Karen Tarapata: Transit biking. 661 00:49:52.770 --> 00:49:53.550 18456426153: or walkway. 662 00:49:54.150 --> 00:49:54.330 or. 663 00:49:55.590 --> 00:49:55.860 Karen Tarapata: No. 664 00:49:57.270 --> 00:50:00.960 Karen Tarapata: Well, the proposed action cause an increase in the use of energy. 665 00:50:01.470 --> 00:50:03.360 18456426153: And it fails to incorporate reasonably. 666 00:50:03.360 --> 00:50:08.580 Karen Tarapata: available energy conservation or renewable energy opportunities know. 667 00:50:11.160 --> 00:50:19.710 Karen Tarapata: Will the proposed action impact existing public private water supplies for Public Private wastewater treatment utilities. 668 00:50:24.390 --> 00:50:25.410 Karen Tarapata: You think no. 669 00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:28.140 Karen Tarapata: Well, the proposed action. 670 00:50:28.410 --> 00:50:30.360 Karen Tarapata: pair of the character or quality of. 671 00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:40.050 Karen Tarapata: Important historic archaeological architectural or aesthetic resources, no, no, it actually is more protective than what we have now. 672 00:50:41.580 --> 00:50:50.400 Karen Tarapata: Will the proposed action result and an adverse change to natural resources wetlands water bodies groundwater air quality flora and fauna. 673 00:50:51.210 --> 00:50:52.500 sylviajeff: Know we're trying to save that. 674 00:50:54.270 --> 00:50:58.740 Karen Tarapata: Well, the proposed action result in an increase in the potential free motion planning. 675 00:50:58.770 --> 00:51:00.150 18456426153: or drainage problems. 676 00:51:00.930 --> 00:51:02.250 michael esmay: No, no. 677 00:51:03.180 --> 00:51:05.460 Karen Tarapata: Well, the proposed action, create a hazard. 678 00:51:05.700 --> 00:51:07.140 Karen Tarapata: To environmental resources. 679 00:51:07.170 --> 00:51:08.400 Karen Tarapata: or human health. 680 00:51:09.600 --> 00:51:10.530 Karen Tarapata: No, no. 681 00:51:11.730 --> 00:51:12.390 Karen Tarapata: So. 682 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:14.910 18456426153: I would say, with. 683 00:51:14.940 --> 00:51:16.140 The fact that we have. 684 00:51:17.910 --> 00:51:39.660 Karen Tarapata: done, part two, this way when you get to part three, it says, for every question in part to that was answered moderate to large impact may occur, please complete part three, but we've said no, or small impact each of those, so I think we can adopt a negative declaration, would you agree Noel. 685 00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:42.840 18456426153: Yes, I think that's that's correct. 686 00:51:44.550 --> 00:51:51.150 michael esmay: Just a question, do we have to say anything about it being an unlisted action, you know as a board. 687 00:51:54.240 --> 00:52:06.120 Noelle Wolfson: Yes, I think that's probably a good idea if you decide, you would like to make the determination of significance to incorporate the category of action into the into the determination, yes I think that's a good idea or. 688 00:52:06.450 --> 00:52:08.220 michael esmay: Well, let me that could be stated. 689 00:52:09.630 --> 00:52:10.620 michael esmay: When we. 690 00:52:13.500 --> 00:52:14.850 michael esmay: Do a negative declaration. 691 00:52:19.470 --> 00:52:28.200 Karen Tarapata: Alright, so I would say now, this is where we open the public hearing correct or do we we don't make any. 692 00:52:29.190 --> 00:52:30.240 Karen Tarapata: Resolution on. 693 00:52:30.240 --> 00:52:32.130 Karen Tarapata: This action at the end up. 694 00:52:32.460 --> 00:52:36.510 Karen Tarapata: At this point do we make you feel like you're in a position to adapt the. 695 00:52:36.510 --> 00:52:37.710 Noelle Wolfson: Negative declaration this point. 696 00:52:37.830 --> 00:52:40.620 Noelle Wolfson: You must adopt it before you take action to adapt the. 697 00:52:40.620 --> 00:52:41.100 Law. 698 00:52:42.150 --> 00:52:49.800 Noelle Wolfson: So you wouldn't necessarily have to do it at this point, but if you feel like you're in a position to it do it at this point you made there's no public hearing required on this portion. 699 00:52:51.030 --> 00:52:55.110 Karen Tarapata: Very good, so so, so I would ask that somebody make a resolution to. 700 00:52:55.110 --> 00:52:56.760 18456426153: declare this. 701 00:52:57.660 --> 00:53:03.180 Karen Tarapata: An unlisted action and adopt a negative declaration of significance. 702 00:53:06.630 --> 00:53:10.110 Ken Rothchild: This is can i'll make such a resolution that we. 703 00:53:12.990 --> 00:53:15.390 Ken Rothchild: adopt this as an unlisted action and. 704 00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:20.850 Ken Rothchild: As a negative declaration on the secret for. 705 00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:24.000 Karen Tarapata: All right, can I get a second. 706 00:53:24.390 --> 00:53:25.560 michael esmay: or second it like. 707 00:53:27.090 --> 00:53:28.710 Karen Tarapata: Great all in favor. 708 00:53:29.340 --> 00:53:30.150 18456426153: Yes, I. 709 00:53:32.370 --> 00:53:33.090 Ken Rothchild: Can I. 710 00:53:36.090 --> 00:53:36.630 michael esmay: Like I. 711 00:53:37.500 --> 00:53:38.370 lauriedodge: lori I. 712 00:53:39.390 --> 00:53:40.380 Karen Tarapata: parent I. 713 00:53:41.730 --> 00:53:50.250 Karen Tarapata: All right, so can we now have a resolution to open the public hearing. 714 00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:52.440 Karen Tarapata: On our. 715 00:53:52.650 --> 00:53:54.720 sylviajeff: resolution to open the public Karen. 716 00:53:56.490 --> 00:53:58.110 michael esmay: Okay, Michael second. 717 00:54:00.030 --> 00:54:01.320 Karen Tarapata: All in favor say I. 718 00:54:02.220 --> 00:54:02.760 michael esmay: Like I. 719 00:54:03.780 --> 00:54:05.490 Ken Rothchild: Jeff I can I. 720 00:54:06.120 --> 00:54:06.990 lauriedodge: lori I. 721 00:54:07.650 --> 00:54:17.040 Karen Tarapata: Karen I all right Is there anyone who has joined tonight to speak on this tree preservation law. 722 00:54:29.730 --> 00:54:32.130 18456426153: If there's no one who has joined. 723 00:54:33.300 --> 00:54:34.050 18456426153: Karen. 724 00:54:35.820 --> 00:54:47.430 18456426153: hearing, I have the referrals that we received from the talent party town and the rockland county planning, would you like me to read those yes please i've had sorry I had him on. 725 00:54:47.430 --> 00:54:49.080 Karen Tarapata: My agenda, but not on my. 726 00:54:49.290 --> 00:54:52.110 18456426153: Hearing chiclets Thank you Carol okay sure. 727 00:54:53.460 --> 00:54:55.080 18456426153: i'll start with the rockland county. 728 00:54:56.130 --> 00:54:56.550 18456426153: letter. 729 00:54:58.950 --> 00:55:06.480 18456426153: This is from the rockland county department of planning 50 sanatorium road building key pomona New York 1096 so. 730 00:55:07.860 --> 00:55:14.280 18456426153: Douglas J showed the acting Commissioner letters dated January 20 2021. 731 00:55:15.690 --> 00:55:30.180 18456426153: it's addressed to the upper nyack village board 328 North broadway for nyack New York 10960 regarding general municipal law review section 239 L and m. 732 00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:33.420 18456426153: The date the review was received with. 733 00:55:36.150 --> 00:55:40.110 18456426153: And the item is the village of upper nyack tree preservation law. 734 00:55:42.450 --> 00:55:59.580 18456426153: UN dash 103 proposed local law deleting Article three section 6.5 tree maintenance and management operations from the zoning ordinance and enacting regulations pertaining to the preservation. 735 00:56:00.060 --> 00:56:07.050 18456426153: and removal of trees within the village of upper nyack and throughout the village of upper niantic the reason for referral. 736 00:56:07.650 --> 00:56:29.490 18456426153: State roads state and county parks adjacent municipalities long pass the county of rockland department of planning has reviewed the above item acting under the terms of the above GL powers and those vested by the county of rockland charter High Commissioner of planning hereby approve. 737 00:56:30.660 --> 00:56:38.670 18456426153: We concur with the villages decisions to provide regulations standards permit process for the removal of significant trees. 738 00:56:39.450 --> 00:56:51.690 18456426153: Since the proposed local law will have no adverse impacts in any county wide interests, this matter is remanded for local determination Douglas J shoots acting Commissioner of planning. 739 00:57:01.170 --> 00:57:04.020 18456426153: On the next there's also some additional information. 740 00:57:05.730 --> 00:57:13.050 18456426153: The proposed action is deemed to have no significant negative impact a nearby municipalities county or state roads or facilities. 741 00:57:13.890 --> 00:57:21.660 18456426153: county parks or drainage systems or the surrounding neighborhood character and therefore the action is for local determination. 742 00:57:22.170 --> 00:57:29.580 18456426153: Approval does not necessarily mean we endorse the subject action as desirable, from the viewpoint of your municipality. 743 00:57:30.180 --> 00:57:42.510 18456426153: The review undertaken by the rockland county planning department and pursuant to and follows the mandate of article 12 dash D, as in New York general municipal under Article called that three. 744 00:57:44.130 --> 00:57:45.630 18456426153: The county of rockland does not. 745 00:57:45.630 --> 00:57:54.330 18456426153: render opinions, nor does it make determinations whether the item reviewed implicates religious land use an institutional persons act. 746 00:57:55.050 --> 00:58:06.630 18456426153: rockland county planning department differs to municipality forwarding the item reduced to render such a pitch opinions and make such determinations, if appropriate, under the circumstances. 747 00:58:07.470 --> 00:58:18.240 18456426153: In this respect, municipalities or dies and under the religious land use institutional splice persons that act as a preemptive force of any provisions and the act may be. 748 00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:29.610 18456426153: may be avoided, one by changing a policy or practice that may result in a substantial burden or religious exercise to by retaining a policy or practice. 749 00:58:30.330 --> 00:58:38.970 18456426153: and exempting sustainability burdened religious exercise three by providing exemptions from a policy or practice for applications. 750 00:58:39.690 --> 00:58:49.530 18456426153: That substantially burden religious exercise i'm not sure that this goes with this page now that i'm reading it sounds like it has nothing to do with this, but. 751 00:58:49.620 --> 00:58:50.070 Noelle Wolfson: I think that. 752 00:58:51.360 --> 00:58:52.620 18456426153: Referral responses. 753 00:58:53.100 --> 00:58:53.400 lauriedodge: Oh. 754 00:58:53.730 --> 00:58:55.740 michael esmay: What a standard county. 755 00:58:55.800 --> 00:58:57.900 18456426153: response okay. 756 00:58:58.410 --> 00:58:59.190 michael esmay: Like a bolted. 757 00:58:59.250 --> 00:58:59.850 To. 758 00:59:01.620 --> 00:59:03.900 18456426153: The file interesting. 759 00:59:06.630 --> 00:59:10.410 18456426153: Do you want me to go on, or should I go on to the next letter what's the next. 760 00:59:10.560 --> 00:59:10.980 18456426153: letter. 761 00:59:11.040 --> 00:59:12.600 Karen Tarapata: Is the best boilerplate. 762 00:59:13.410 --> 00:59:14.940 Karen Tarapata: That can be we can. 763 00:59:16.080 --> 00:59:16.830 Karen Tarapata: Make sure that. 764 00:59:17.280 --> 00:59:20.220 Karen Tarapata: That posted on the website, if someone wants to read it all. 765 00:59:21.150 --> 00:59:34.380 18456426153: Okay, and it's it's in the file also if anybody needs it, I can I can always email it to someone the second letter is from the town of Clark county department of planning, they did January 11 2021. 766 00:59:35.430 --> 00:59:46.590 18456426153: dress to miss Carol G brotherhood village of upper nyack 328 North broadway nyack New York went on nine six so regarding village of upper nyack tree preservation law. 767 00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:59.280 18456426153: dear Mrs brotherhood the planning board discussed the above reference matter at their January 620 21 meeting after a brief discussion on emotion of cats seconded by. 768 01:00:00.060 --> 01:00:12.750 18456426153: yeah kitchen and carries six oh with eyes of hime reaction or down arrow and virtually no planning board of the town of clark's down deems the matter for local determination. 769 01:00:13.380 --> 01:00:22.290 18456426153: Thank you for the opportunity to review and comment on the on the comprehensive plan sincerely Gilbert time chairman. 770 01:00:25.260 --> 01:00:25.950 18456426153: Of the board. 771 01:00:28.590 --> 01:00:33.660 Karen Tarapata: Okay, so I realize also that we are going to continue this. 772 01:00:33.750 --> 01:00:36.480 Karen Tarapata: we're not going to close out the carrion we're continuing until next. 773 01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:40.800 Karen Tarapata: month because this local law was drafted with. 774 01:00:42.390 --> 01:00:45.420 Karen Tarapata: Prior to the arrival of the comments. 775 01:00:45.420 --> 01:00:45.900 18456426153: Of the. 776 01:00:45.930 --> 01:00:46.950 Karen Tarapata: village Forrester. 777 01:00:47.010 --> 01:00:50.400 18456426153: And we want to incorporate his comments. 778 01:00:51.240 --> 01:00:52.440 Karen Tarapata: Really first right. 779 01:00:53.070 --> 01:00:56.130 Karen Tarapata: So this public hearing will be continued. 780 01:00:56.370 --> 01:01:06.660 Karen Tarapata: To next month and people will have the opportunity to see and then see the revisions and comment at our next meeting. 781 01:01:11.790 --> 01:01:12.300 Karen Tarapata: Okay. 782 01:01:14.820 --> 01:01:16.320 Karen Tarapata: Thank you all very much. 783 01:01:17.970 --> 01:01:20.190 Karen Tarapata: move these things aside. 784 01:01:23.340 --> 01:01:30.030 Karen Tarapata: to the next item alright, tonight we are going to continue our public hearing that was. 785 01:01:30.060 --> 01:01:32.280 Karen Tarapata: opened on June 25 2020. 786 01:01:32.370 --> 01:01:34.770 18456426153: On the draft comprehensive update. 787 01:01:37.740 --> 01:01:39.270 18456426153: We worked very hard. 788 01:01:39.330 --> 01:01:40.980 Karen Tarapata: to incorporate the. 789 01:01:41.580 --> 01:01:43.260 Karen Tarapata: comments and of. 790 01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:46.140 Karen Tarapata: Our residents and abroad and county planning. 791 01:01:47.130 --> 01:01:47.580 Karen Tarapata: and 792 01:01:47.610 --> 01:01:50.880 18456426153: Now, we would like to receive comments. 793 01:01:51.510 --> 01:01:59.550 Karen Tarapata: From our residents on what they have read, I am in receipt of comments from. 794 01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:02.610 Karen Tarapata: may have tour the goose town environmental. 795 01:02:02.610 --> 01:02:03.420 Karen Tarapata: Action group. 796 01:02:05.430 --> 01:02:06.060 Karen Tarapata: Do you think. 797 01:02:06.090 --> 01:02:08.880 Karen Tarapata: What do you think do should I go through the comments. 798 01:02:08.940 --> 01:02:09.690 Karen Tarapata: Of the group. 799 01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:12.000 Karen Tarapata: And then open it up to the. 800 01:02:12.090 --> 01:02:16.290 Karen Tarapata: rest of the Community, or vice versa, does anyone have an opinion. 801 01:02:20.850 --> 01:02:21.180 18456426153: No. 802 01:02:21.390 --> 01:02:21.990 not really. 803 01:02:23.160 --> 01:02:23.910 michael esmay: No, no. 804 01:02:26.820 --> 01:02:29.280 Noelle Wolfson: No, I think, either way, I believe that. 805 01:02:29.550 --> 01:02:30.720 18456426153: they've tour I see I see. 806 01:02:30.720 --> 01:02:31.470 Noelle Wolfson: Her on the list, I met. 807 01:02:32.610 --> 01:02:33.390 My mentor. 808 01:02:34.530 --> 01:02:36.180 Noelle Wolfson: So maybe that's a good place to begin. 809 01:02:37.080 --> 01:02:37.380 yep. 810 01:02:39.240 --> 01:02:41.100 18456426153: All right, do you think I should read the letter. 811 01:02:41.100 --> 01:02:45.210 Karen Tarapata: or just go into the specifics what, how do you think I should. 812 01:02:47.430 --> 01:02:51.540 18456426153: dress well or, should I just asked me to bring up her her question. 813 01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:53.190 Karen Tarapata: and 814 01:02:54.330 --> 01:02:56.760 Noelle Wolfson: answer them during, I think, maybe, if you wouldn't mind. 815 01:02:56.760 --> 01:03:01.710 Noelle Wolfson: Providing a summary that letter is lengthy so to read the whole thing if you could provide a summary, I think that might be more efficient. 816 01:03:02.130 --> 01:03:15.000 meavetooher: Sure, and and I don't want to take up any more time than is necessary here, I really appreciate the efforts that you've made in the modifications to the comprehensive plan, thank you all for your time and. 817 01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:16.050 18456426153: attention to this. 818 01:03:16.950 --> 01:03:22.950 meavetooher: you've really done a good job we feel in incorporating I am here on behalf of goose town environmental. 819 01:03:22.950 --> 01:03:33.690 meavetooher: action and I, you know that our major concerns are those aligned with the Marine business district, and the impacts on on the are for an historic district to joining it. 820 01:03:34.140 --> 01:03:35.700 18456426153: So our comments. 821 01:03:36.570 --> 01:03:48.480 meavetooher: It really at this point are there's some technical comments, one of my first questions is in 611 there was a change in terms of existing commercial uses. 822 01:03:49.680 --> 01:03:50.040 meavetooher: You. 823 01:03:50.100 --> 01:03:51.540 18456426153: You went from using. 824 01:03:51.570 --> 01:03:53.010 meavetooher: The word current. 825 01:03:53.280 --> 01:04:00.450 meavetooher: To the word existing and later on in that same section you return to the word current. 826 01:04:01.680 --> 01:04:04.350 meavetooher: And I guess you know if there's a dresser. 827 01:04:05.010 --> 01:04:10.290 meavetooher: or druthers sometimes existing users have specific imprimatur tours in the law. 828 01:04:11.340 --> 01:04:19.920 meavetooher: And you know I also would encourage you to be consistent, within the comprehensive plan itself so that's you know sort of a technical. 829 01:04:19.950 --> 01:04:21.660 18456426153: comment but it's also a question if. 830 01:04:21.660 --> 01:04:32.370 meavetooher: There was something that you were trying to address in considering it to be existing operations defined differently than current uses in the district. 831 01:04:33.780 --> 01:04:39.600 Karen Tarapata: I think our plan now is to conform the to return to current operations. 832 01:04:39.990 --> 01:04:40.650 meavetooher: That was. 833 01:04:41.190 --> 01:04:47.040 Karen Tarapata: editing therapy is Noel said to me this afternoon it's a distinction without a difference. 834 01:04:49.410 --> 01:04:49.860 18456426153: So. 835 01:04:49.890 --> 01:04:51.990 meavetooher: Consistency and you know lawyers being. 836 01:04:52.020 --> 01:04:53.100 18456426153: Lawyers we kind of. 837 01:04:53.100 --> 01:04:53.460 focus. 838 01:04:56.370 --> 01:04:57.630 meavetooher: In terms of our other. 839 01:04:57.630 --> 01:04:59.610 meavetooher: comments you identify. 840 01:04:59.640 --> 01:05:08.730 meavetooher: performance standards for the goals and recommendations regarding the Marine business district, and thank you for that I think that's a really important piece. 841 01:05:09.660 --> 01:05:11.070 18456426153: we'd like you to consider doing. 842 01:05:11.070 --> 01:05:13.290 meavetooher: That, in terms of vessels. 843 01:05:13.950 --> 01:05:16.170 meavetooher: On the location you've done it for. 844 01:05:16.230 --> 01:05:23.460 meavetooher: Operating equipment vessels that are also stored on site have dramatic impacts on the adjoining. 845 01:05:23.490 --> 01:05:24.870 18456426153: district and. 846 01:05:24.900 --> 01:05:27.270 meavetooher: The comprehensive plan would be helpful. 847 01:05:27.450 --> 01:05:44.130 meavetooher: To limit the size and scope of those vessels, so that those impacts when they're eventually incorporated into the zoning code there's guidance, you know the big point of the comprehensive plan is to provide guidance for your zoning and your zoning eventually has to be. 848 01:05:44.130 --> 01:05:45.270 18456426153: Consistent with that. 849 01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:47.670 meavetooher: Given the activities that have been an. 850 01:05:47.700 --> 01:05:52.620 meavetooher: Ongoing at the shipyard and and the tremendous impacts that some of those large. 851 01:05:52.620 --> 01:05:53.700 meavetooher: ships have. 852 01:05:53.730 --> 01:05:55.080 18456426153: When they're brought on sure. 853 01:05:55.710 --> 01:05:57.570 18456426153: we'd like to consider implementing. 854 01:06:00.690 --> 01:06:01.170 18456426153: Especially. 855 01:06:02.100 --> 01:06:03.690 meavetooher: For operating equipment. 856 01:06:05.670 --> 01:06:10.650 meavetooher: there's a separate again just a conflict in terminology. 857 01:06:11.850 --> 01:06:12.750 18456426153: removed. 858 01:06:13.110 --> 01:06:18.960 meavetooher: references to the Manhattan historic district, and the are for in the performance standards. 859 01:06:19.500 --> 01:06:20.640 18456426153: At section one. 860 01:06:20.940 --> 01:06:22.050 meavetooher: And now section. 861 01:06:22.110 --> 01:06:24.210 meavetooher: Two which specifically discusses. 862 01:06:24.330 --> 01:06:25.530 18456426153: harmony with your. 863 01:06:25.530 --> 01:06:26.580 meavetooher: For in the van Patten. 864 01:06:26.580 --> 01:06:27.600 18456426153: Historic district. 865 01:06:28.680 --> 01:06:45.090 meavetooher: ghost refers to the above noted items I think the intent there is that it comply with the performance standards and again it's just a clarification of language that we think would be helpful, you know for future direction and zoning purposes. 866 01:06:47.340 --> 01:06:56.490 Karen Tarapata: My knowledge, we agree with that what the above noted items refers to the performance standards, and that should be clarified that that should conform. 867 01:06:57.210 --> 01:06:59.250 18456426153: We want to sleep with our planner briefly. 868 01:06:59.250 --> 01:07:02.040 Karen Tarapata: To make sure, but I am. 869 01:07:03.210 --> 01:07:05.460 Karen Tarapata: As far as our reading of it. 870 01:07:05.790 --> 01:07:06.120 Karen Tarapata: That. 871 01:07:06.150 --> 01:07:07.320 18456426153: It does make sense. 872 01:07:07.380 --> 01:07:11.430 Karen Tarapata: To instead of saying above noted items to refer to the performance standards. 873 01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:22.170 Karen Tarapata: terrific Thank you yeah in terms of the vessel storage our thinking was that that really is a site part of the site plan consideration. 874 01:07:23.370 --> 01:07:26.190 Karen Tarapata: We were trying to be very consistent across all. 875 01:07:26.190 --> 01:07:27.930 18456426153: industrial sites in terms of. 876 01:07:27.930 --> 01:07:32.250 Karen Tarapata: equipment and those performance standards and not to have something. 877 01:07:33.300 --> 01:07:50.250 Karen Tarapata: The performance gains would be the same, regardless of where industrial activity was going on vessel storage absolutely, as they say plan consideration and you're you're right, it should be, I think, in the zoning code, perhaps, but not necessarily a comprehensive plan. 878 01:07:51.210 --> 01:08:02.070 meavetooher: yeah and you know the, the only comment I would make further in that regard mayor, is that the nba district is unique in that it's the only one that's going to have these vessels stored on site. 879 01:08:03.300 --> 01:08:08.160 meavetooher: I, we certainly would like to see those limited limitations placed in the site plan. 880 01:08:09.060 --> 01:08:24.780 meavetooher: You know there's just there's been so much controversy that we would like to clarify for everybody's purposes to try and limit disputes and make it as clear as possible, so you know we would just reiterate that you consider that and I certainly. 881 01:08:24.780 --> 01:08:26.130 18456426153: understand your point. 882 01:08:27.780 --> 01:08:28.080 meavetooher: You know. 883 01:08:28.230 --> 01:08:29.610 18456426153: Similarly. 884 01:08:30.030 --> 01:08:32.670 meavetooher: there's discussion of the Hudson river overlay. 885 01:08:32.670 --> 01:08:34.830 meavetooher: district and. 886 01:08:34.980 --> 01:08:41.340 meavetooher: Historic district, and in the Hudson river overlay district, there are again standards that are set. 887 01:08:41.340 --> 01:08:42.780 18456426153: forth that kind of help. 888 01:08:43.020 --> 01:08:44.250 18456426153: provide guidance. 889 01:08:44.610 --> 01:08:46.770 meavetooher: On what the standards are for. 890 01:08:46.800 --> 01:08:47.790 That district. 891 01:08:48.810 --> 01:08:50.340 18456426153: We think the historic district. 892 01:08:50.340 --> 01:09:00.510 meavetooher: could also benefit from those kinds of standards 813 in particular could use, you know just some indication of. 893 01:09:00.570 --> 01:09:03.150 meavetooher: What the additional criteria would be. 894 01:09:03.900 --> 01:09:05.640 18456426153: For the zoning purposes. 895 01:09:06.300 --> 01:09:07.350 meavetooher: And, obviously. 896 01:09:07.710 --> 01:09:09.600 meavetooher: We would stress that impacts from. 897 01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:11.010 meavetooher: adjoining properties. 898 01:09:11.250 --> 01:09:16.650 meavetooher: are something that should also be considered if you if you look at the secret laws. 899 01:09:16.650 --> 01:09:17.430 18456426153: For instance. 900 01:09:17.640 --> 01:09:18.750 meavetooher: If it's a historic. 901 01:09:18.750 --> 01:09:24.780 meavetooher: district it gets sort of a heightened seeker review under the regulations. 902 01:09:25.290 --> 01:09:26.370 18456426153: So no. 903 01:09:26.460 --> 01:09:30.930 meavetooher: it's it's also something we'd like to see you consider on the historic district. 904 01:09:32.130 --> 01:09:34.410 Karen Tarapata: Well, as far as the band houghton historic. 905 01:09:34.410 --> 01:09:36.570 Karen Tarapata: district because you're on the national. 906 01:09:36.570 --> 01:09:41.880 Karen Tarapata: register that higher level of seeker is already baked in. 907 01:09:42.240 --> 01:09:43.380 Karen Tarapata: We know that that's. 908 01:09:43.440 --> 01:09:45.840 Karen Tarapata: That is the case, because of its designation. 909 01:09:46.170 --> 01:09:46.950 Correct. 910 01:09:48.360 --> 01:09:48.570 meavetooher: yeah. 911 01:09:49.140 --> 01:09:50.460 18456426153: For secret purposes it's. 912 01:09:50.460 --> 01:09:52.290 meavetooher: Not necessarily for other. 913 01:09:52.890 --> 01:09:54.060 meavetooher: purposes that there. 914 01:09:54.060 --> 01:09:55.260 meavetooher: might be review and. 915 01:09:55.260 --> 01:09:55.920 18456426153: And I. 916 01:09:55.950 --> 01:09:58.950 meavetooher: think the point of the historic overlay district in general. 917 01:09:59.280 --> 01:10:07.080 meavetooher: Is you know, recognizing the uniqueness of that area and the need for very specific protections so. 918 01:10:07.620 --> 01:10:24.270 Karen Tarapata: yeah there was there's a discussion that is ongoing, which is one reason why it's not incredibly specific in the comprehensive plan at this time about having a historic overlaid zone for the entire village, because there is a list of. 919 01:10:25.590 --> 01:10:37.260 Karen Tarapata: structures throughout the village that are up in age and a significance, but how we want to protect them is very much. 920 01:10:38.490 --> 01:10:48.840 Karen Tarapata: still has to be discussed as a village, because you know it does restrict people's rights to do what to do things with their property. 921 01:10:49.260 --> 01:10:57.540 Karen Tarapata: And it's it's beyond just the Van houghton district it's throughout the village, so I think that, as well as the. 922 01:10:58.950 --> 01:11:03.360 Karen Tarapata: The local waterfront of law, the plan. 923 01:11:04.830 --> 01:11:11.880 Karen Tarapata: Those two things are because we're encouraging them we're putting them in the comprehensive plan is things that we want to do. 924 01:11:13.110 --> 01:11:22.560 Karen Tarapata: they're not part of the zoning code update, that is, that we're hoping to adopt with right after this comprehensive plan. 925 01:11:23.850 --> 01:11:30.720 Karen Tarapata: Because they're going to require a great deal of planning Community input and work and money. 926 01:11:31.800 --> 01:11:44.520 Karen Tarapata: They absolutely need to be done, because I mean of the waterfront of plan, I think, having spoken with people in nyack having spoken with Joe Samos in Clarks town. 927 01:11:44.970 --> 01:12:00.780 Karen Tarapata: It makes it, it makes sense for us to do it, but we really need to that's the next big chunk to address, which is why we don't have more specifics now because it's going to be more input meetings from the Community. 928 01:12:02.160 --> 01:12:14.040 meavetooher: And, and I certainly I loved all of your efforts, I mean one you have a lovely community and it's it's really great that you have a board that's focused on trying to protect that and I think you see that echoed in your. 929 01:12:14.040 --> 01:12:15.120 meavetooher: Community which is. 930 01:12:15.150 --> 01:12:19.950 meavetooher: Which is wonderful, the only comment i'll make in that regard further is. 931 01:12:20.340 --> 01:12:22.140 meavetooher: You know, a comprehensive plan is. 932 01:12:22.170 --> 01:12:26.070 meavetooher: It is aspirational and it is long term. 933 01:12:26.370 --> 01:12:26.640 meavetooher: it's. 934 01:12:26.670 --> 01:12:27.600 18456426153: You know it's not. 935 01:12:27.660 --> 01:12:44.430 meavetooher: Like the zoning codes that are more specific, so you know, in terms of those aspirations, though they might be general I think you know in practice and and I in discussing this with planners I. 936 01:12:44.490 --> 01:12:48.060 meavetooher: Typically, find that you know they want you to have as much specificity as. 937 01:12:48.060 --> 01:12:50.250 meavetooher: possible in the comprehensive. 938 01:12:50.250 --> 01:12:52.740 meavetooher: plan, not necessarily down to. 939 01:12:52.740 --> 01:12:55.380 meavetooher: The you know crossing the t's and dotting the i's. 940 01:12:55.620 --> 01:12:58.800 meavetooher: But to give as much instruction as possible. 941 01:12:58.950 --> 01:13:02.610 meavetooher: To those future projects so just ask that you keep. 942 01:13:02.610 --> 01:13:05.220 meavetooher: That in mind as you describe, you know the. 943 01:13:05.220 --> 01:13:06.450 meavetooher: lw rp. 944 01:13:06.570 --> 01:13:08.010 meavetooher: in particular. 945 01:13:08.190 --> 01:13:09.930 meavetooher: And I think you might find that that. 946 01:13:09.930 --> 01:13:10.890 meavetooher: helps with. 947 01:13:11.100 --> 01:13:12.960 meavetooher: Financial applications with the state. 948 01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:13.710 meavetooher: In the future. 949 01:13:14.490 --> 01:13:20.370 meavetooher: So I just throw that out is you know we're all looking for money these days in the communities, I understand i'm. 950 01:13:20.580 --> 01:13:21.600 18456426153: Looking for money. 951 01:13:21.600 --> 01:13:22.710 Karen Tarapata: But also the. 952 01:13:23.340 --> 01:13:25.200 Karen Tarapata: The waterfront revitalization. 953 01:13:25.200 --> 01:13:25.950 18456426153: plan is. 954 01:13:26.010 --> 01:13:37.920 Karen Tarapata: Important because we really do have issues that affect the communities entire waterfront and both residential and commercial and that plan needs to reflect. 955 01:13:38.340 --> 01:13:41.250 18456426153: Those concerns and issues and. 956 01:13:41.550 --> 01:13:43.200 Karen Tarapata: along our entire shoreline. 957 01:13:44.010 --> 01:14:00.210 Karen Tarapata: Absolutely, so if you have steep slopes, and you know we're working to incorporate stronger provisions for steep slope development and in terms of historic district just switching back to that rough and county planning did encourage us to have an. 958 01:14:00.210 --> 01:14:02.640 Karen Tarapata: architect review. 959 01:14:02.970 --> 01:14:04.350 Karen Tarapata: Changes to historic. 960 01:14:04.350 --> 01:14:05.100 Karen Tarapata: structures. 961 01:14:05.430 --> 01:14:09.660 Karen Tarapata: And with our newly passed architectural review board law we do. 962 01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:11.970 Karen Tarapata: include that provision in that. 963 01:14:11.970 --> 01:14:12.480 Law. 964 01:14:13.500 --> 01:14:16.890 Karen Tarapata: Either a member of the board or a consulting architect. 965 01:14:18.300 --> 01:14:21.810 Karen Tarapata: So these these things are all going to happen, but it's just you know. 966 01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:34.380 meavetooher: So, certainly in, and you know I don't want to take up more of your time I do appreciate the efforts that you're putting in and certainly your openness to our comments and input and contribution. 967 01:14:34.950 --> 01:14:41.730 meavetooher: You know we'd like to part participate and continue to participate as the zoning that springs out of this goes forward. 968 01:14:42.750 --> 01:14:54.360 meavetooher: So you know, thank you for your efforts, and you know we just ask that you consider what's been happening in the marine business district, and I know the plans for the Community in the future, want to include. 969 01:14:54.540 --> 01:14:55.680 18456426153: Growth, you know. 970 01:14:55.740 --> 01:14:59.610 meavetooher: in a positive way for the Community and its access to the river. 971 01:15:00.720 --> 01:15:02.670 meavetooher: So, thank you very much for your time. 972 01:15:02.880 --> 01:15:10.440 Karen Tarapata: welcome it as someone said to me steel sharpens steel, so when you give us good questions, it makes us think. 973 01:15:12.060 --> 01:15:14.700 Karen Tarapata: Our work through in a different way it's very helpful. 974 01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:16.350 meavetooher: But thank you. 975 01:15:18.780 --> 01:15:26.190 Karen Tarapata: Is there anyone else who has joined tonight to comment on the comprehensive plan, the draft comprehensive plan. 976 01:15:32.100 --> 01:15:33.480 Ken Rothchild: For Karen this is. 977 01:15:34.470 --> 01:15:38.910 Ken Rothchild: Yes, i'm just I don't know if it's appropriate for a trustee to. 978 01:15:39.150 --> 01:15:41.400 Ken Rothchild: To ask a question at this point. 979 01:15:41.490 --> 01:15:43.740 Ken Rothchild: Maybe i'm asking someone. 980 01:15:45.300 --> 01:15:48.180 Karen Tarapata: it's an adapter we close the public hearing that we get to talk. 981 01:15:48.390 --> 01:15:49.650 18456426153: yeah I mean this isn't. 982 01:15:49.800 --> 01:16:07.710 Ken Rothchild: This isn't more of a discussion it's more of a suggestion for our consideration terms of this so it's kind of a comment, in that sense and it's in reference to what they've proposed we look at which our performance standards for the vessels in the marine business district and. 983 01:16:08.940 --> 01:16:17.040 Ken Rothchild: I understand the concern that we have about appearing to single out particular districts for particular standards. 984 01:16:17.640 --> 01:16:18.720 Ken Rothchild: and trying to be uniform. 985 01:16:18.720 --> 01:16:22.890 Ken Rothchild: across the various business districts each. 986 01:16:22.920 --> 01:16:24.420 Ken Rothchild: Of the three business districts, we. 987 01:16:24.420 --> 01:16:25.110 Ken Rothchild: Have present. 988 01:16:25.140 --> 01:16:27.930 Ken Rothchild: unique characteristics unique to themselves. 989 01:16:28.590 --> 01:16:43.650 Ken Rothchild: But i'm wondering if there's language that we can incorporate into the performance standards for each of them which acknowledges it as a unique district, and then recommends or proposes. 990 01:16:44.340 --> 01:16:46.500 18456426153: Additional specific. 991 01:16:47.010 --> 01:16:51.630 Ken Rothchild: Standards for that specific district depending on. 992 01:16:53.580 --> 01:16:57.030 Ken Rothchild: Current or expected future uses things of that sort. 993 01:16:57.210 --> 01:16:59.850 Ken Rothchild: it's just a way of kind of meeting. 994 01:16:59.850 --> 01:17:01.140 Ken Rothchild: halfway, the idea that. 995 01:17:02.250 --> 01:17:03.900 Ken Rothchild: There are these large objects. 996 01:17:03.900 --> 01:17:11.130 Ken Rothchild: That show up in the marine business district probably know large objects may show up in you know, in the nine w quarter. 997 01:17:12.300 --> 01:17:19.170 Ken Rothchild: and special circumstances may arise in each of these situations that we may want to incorporate into. 998 01:17:19.890 --> 01:17:21.390 18456426153: Our zoning standards. 999 01:17:21.420 --> 01:17:32.340 Ken Rothchild: And so it's kind of a step halfway in between, where we say we recommend that date each district we looked at, specifically for its own specific. 1000 01:17:33.480 --> 01:17:45.540 Ken Rothchild: Standards and so that it's in a comprehensive plan that that's not just coming out of the blue, that all sudden we're regulating something that we're not regulating say in the village Center say. 1001 01:17:47.010 --> 01:17:53.940 Karen Tarapata: Right, well, I know that the performance standards Mike would you want to speak to some of the road thinking about performance. 1002 01:17:53.940 --> 01:17:55.080 Karen Tarapata: standards in the in the. 1003 01:17:55.080 --> 01:17:56.220 Karen Tarapata: Different districts. 1004 01:17:58.320 --> 01:18:02.310 Karen Tarapata: Most of them are are similar but I think either. 1005 01:18:02.820 --> 01:18:04.170 michael esmay: If there is a reference in the. 1006 01:18:04.170 --> 01:18:05.520 michael esmay: comprehensive plan to the. 1007 01:18:06.630 --> 01:18:07.620 michael esmay: uniqueness of. 1008 01:18:07.980 --> 01:18:13.560 michael esmay: Each district in in the description of those districts. 1009 01:18:17.250 --> 01:18:20.970 michael esmay: I don't know Ken Are you suggesting that it goes beyond. 1010 01:18:22.080 --> 01:18:22.500 18456426153: That. 1011 01:18:23.640 --> 01:18:27.810 michael esmay: description and that, because that is unique, we look at it. 1012 01:18:29.130 --> 01:18:29.880 michael esmay: differently. 1013 01:18:30.090 --> 01:18:32.100 Ken Rothchild: Well, yes, so. 1014 01:18:32.670 --> 01:18:35.130 18456426153: same very unique description. 1015 01:18:35.220 --> 01:18:37.050 sylviajeff: Of the best friend. 1016 01:18:39.210 --> 01:18:47.610 Ken Rothchild: You know, saying their unique in the description doesn't rise to the level of making a recommendation of addressing that uniqueness. 1017 01:18:48.720 --> 01:18:52.530 Ken Rothchild: Specifically, so that there would be my suggestion. 1018 01:18:55.170 --> 01:18:55.800 Ken Rothchild: If it's. 1019 01:18:57.810 --> 01:18:59.610 Ken Rothchild: A good idea would be to. 1020 01:19:01.530 --> 01:19:05.880 Ken Rothchild: In the in the goals section of each of these districts to. 1021 01:19:05.910 --> 01:19:06.630 Reference. 1022 01:19:09.240 --> 01:19:18.840 Ken Rothchild: You know, and again, it can be a general statement that could be the same for each I imagine i'm not i'm not a lawyer, obviously, and i'm not on the word, but the you know that that the. 1023 01:19:19.080 --> 01:19:21.390 Ken Rothchild: Each district, you know this district because of. 1024 01:19:21.390 --> 01:19:22.920 Ken Rothchild: Its unique stature may have. 1025 01:19:23.460 --> 01:19:25.710 Ken Rothchild: You know it's neat neat nature may have. 1026 01:19:26.820 --> 01:19:28.050 Ken Rothchild: may require. 1027 01:19:28.170 --> 01:19:29.430 Ken Rothchild: Additional zoning. 1028 01:19:31.020 --> 01:19:33.870 Ken Rothchild: Regulations says to performance standards. 1029 01:19:34.890 --> 01:19:43.380 michael esmay: And that's just it what would you're talking about is reflected in the zoning ordinance and how you know each each area is going to. 1030 01:19:44.340 --> 01:19:45.990 18456426153: be driven by virtue of the. 1031 01:19:46.200 --> 01:19:47.100 michael esmay: day we control. 1032 01:19:47.970 --> 01:19:52.230 Karen Tarapata: In the it's in the comprehensive plan on page 612. 1033 01:19:53.280 --> 01:20:11.370 Karen Tarapata: When we talk about given its immediate a Jason seat to an hour for residents sound performance standards for this district that regulate the impact should be developed that include but are not limited to and then letter O is vessels mortar otherwise secured offshore but utilize. 1034 01:20:11.430 --> 01:20:12.420 18456426153: operationally. 1035 01:20:13.050 --> 01:20:14.190 Karen Tarapata: And you're saying we should. 1036 01:20:14.280 --> 01:20:21.120 Karen Tarapata: Add Oh, it says vessel storage it's on there, the company comprehensive plan already. 1037 01:20:21.870 --> 01:20:24.480 Karen Tarapata: Requests performance standards. 1038 01:20:24.480 --> 01:20:26.130 Karen Tarapata: For vessel storage. 1039 01:20:26.790 --> 01:20:28.380 Ken Rothchild: Okay, well then. 1040 01:20:29.460 --> 01:20:34.650 Ken Rothchild: Then, other than going more specific, you know that seems to address my suggestion. 1041 01:20:35.040 --> 01:20:36.630 Karen Tarapata: So that would be when we go back. 1042 01:20:36.630 --> 01:20:43.170 Karen Tarapata: To the when we get to the actual zoning code when we outline the specific we're saying here that they will. 1043 01:20:43.170 --> 01:20:56.550 Karen Tarapata: exist now we need to present you with what they will be wet when we propose the zoning code, but they are, they are stated they are listed as. 1044 01:20:57.690 --> 01:21:03.810 Karen Tarapata: performance standards to be developed in the zoning code so we're we're very close to actually showing them to you. 1045 01:21:04.620 --> 01:21:13.380 meavetooher: Can I just make a comment, and I and i'm not trying to argue with you so much as it's vessel more or otherwise secured offshore. 1046 01:21:13.770 --> 01:21:20.220 Karen Tarapata: And I know but letter J letter J is vessel storage, I made a mistake letter J, on page. 1047 01:21:21.330 --> 01:21:21.840 Karen Tarapata: 16. 1048 01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:24.990 Karen Tarapata: It says vessel storage. 1049 01:21:25.530 --> 01:21:26.520 Karen Tarapata: So, and it is. 1050 01:21:28.320 --> 01:21:29.430 18456426153: And what i'm. 1051 01:21:29.430 --> 01:21:42.870 meavetooher: saying is that an indication as to the size and and and you know scope of those vessels is some not just whether or not vessels can be stored, but the number and. 1052 01:21:42.870 --> 01:21:45.360 meavetooher: Size as an indication. 1053 01:21:47.130 --> 01:21:48.030 Karen Tarapata: that's reasonable. 1054 01:21:48.330 --> 01:21:50.520 Karen Tarapata: size and five and. 1055 01:21:50.910 --> 01:21:52.350 18456426153: location that. 1056 01:21:52.680 --> 01:21:53.520 Karen Tarapata: That is a very. 1057 01:21:53.550 --> 01:21:54.330 reasonable. 1058 01:21:56.730 --> 01:21:59.370 Karen Tarapata: Okay let's Look, we will definitely. 1059 01:22:02.070 --> 01:22:04.110 Karen Tarapata: Talk about that because that's that is not. 1060 01:22:04.140 --> 01:22:05.760 Karen Tarapata: A significant. 1061 01:22:07.080 --> 01:22:13.140 Karen Tarapata: Change, but it indicates what you might be looking for in the zoning code to follow. 1062 01:22:14.460 --> 01:22:14.970 meavetooher: Thank you. 1063 01:22:29.100 --> 01:22:36.450 Karen Tarapata: Is there anyone else here wishes to speak on the comprehensive plan update. 1064 01:22:37.770 --> 01:22:39.660 Karen Tarapata: And you have anything else you want to talk about. 1065 01:22:41.190 --> 01:22:42.420 18456426153: No, I just. 1066 01:22:42.510 --> 01:22:44.490 Ken Rothchild: You know, obviously, as a. 1067 01:22:44.580 --> 01:22:48.510 Ken Rothchild: As a resident of that particular district, I have a particular interest in these things. 1068 01:22:49.170 --> 01:22:49.770 and 1069 01:22:51.510 --> 01:22:52.170 18456426153: This one. 1070 01:22:52.590 --> 01:22:53.970 Ken Rothchild: yeah and and Mike. 1071 01:22:55.230 --> 01:23:07.260 Ken Rothchild: Interestingly enough, Mike does too so um you know he, the idea is, we want the comprehensive plan to be one that reflects. 1072 01:23:08.970 --> 01:23:17.040 Ken Rothchild: The ordinances if may this point around, as well as putting out that you know reflects our goals for the entire village. 1073 01:23:17.070 --> 01:23:18.300 buffer nyack and. 1074 01:23:19.650 --> 01:23:25.320 Ken Rothchild: And however we can strengthen that so when we propose ordinance the better I guess you know. 1075 01:23:26.070 --> 01:23:30.120 michael esmay: Current could you talk about how you expect this to play out now. 1076 01:23:33.030 --> 01:23:33.570 18456426153: gosh. 1077 01:23:33.780 --> 01:23:34.440 Karen Tarapata: In terms. 1078 01:23:34.470 --> 01:23:37.590 michael esmay: of timing know you have a comprehensive plan yeah. 1079 01:23:39.390 --> 01:23:41.550 Karen Tarapata: Well now, all you want to speak to that or, should I. 1080 01:23:41.550 --> 01:23:44.940 Karen Tarapata: pull out my calendar were I mean we are moving. 1081 01:23:46.050 --> 01:23:47.970 michael esmay: Thinking about the other people around now. 1082 01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:52.800 Karen Tarapata: Oh well, I would say in a in a perfect world, we will. 1083 01:23:53.400 --> 01:23:57.300 Karen Tarapata: be able to complete the adoption of. 1084 01:23:57.330 --> 01:24:00.720 Karen Tarapata: The comprehensive plan by June and she's saying Noel. 1085 01:24:01.020 --> 01:24:02.730 Noelle Wolfson: or so the next steps actually. 1086 01:24:03.600 --> 01:24:11.880 Noelle Wolfson: Currency plans are a little unique in that the village law requires to public hearings on them, and we are in the first public hearing right now it's a public hearing to gather. 1087 01:24:11.880 --> 01:24:12.660 18456426153: and collect. 1088 01:24:13.470 --> 01:24:15.570 Noelle Wolfson: Community comments so. 1089 01:24:16.080 --> 01:24:17.880 Noelle Wolfson: You know if you feel like you're in a position to do so. 1090 01:24:17.880 --> 01:24:18.390 Noelle Wolfson: tonight. 1091 01:24:18.720 --> 01:24:21.720 Noelle Wolfson: You can close the hearing to collect the comments. 1092 01:24:22.140 --> 01:24:36.750 Noelle Wolfson: And then you will finalize the plan you know the plan that will be subject to adoption and then you'll hold another public hearing with the purpose of that hearing being to give it one last final overview informally adaptive before you do so, you all you. 1093 01:24:36.750 --> 01:24:37.980 Noelle Wolfson: need to reform secret. 1094 01:24:38.400 --> 01:24:40.260 Noelle Wolfson: On the comprehensive plan and. 1095 01:24:40.290 --> 01:24:41.040 Noelle Wolfson: On its. 1096 01:24:41.250 --> 01:24:45.270 Noelle Wolfson: Implementing zoning regulations as a as a broad action together. 1097 01:24:46.350 --> 01:24:49.410 Noelle Wolfson: So those would be the next steps are consideration of secret. 1098 01:24:50.190 --> 01:24:50.910 Noelle Wolfson: Adapting. 1099 01:24:50.940 --> 01:25:04.770 Noelle Wolfson: your determination significance proceeding with the formal review and adaption of the comprehensive plan and then after you do that beginning of public hearing process on on zoning laws that are designed to implement the terms of this comprehensive plan. 1100 01:25:05.850 --> 01:25:13.140 Karen Tarapata: I foresee the public hearings on the actual zoning code update be stretching well into the summer. 1101 01:25:15.540 --> 01:25:18.060 michael esmay: know what do you, what do you think about. 1102 01:25:18.540 --> 01:25:20.100 18456426153: Closing the public hearing them. 1103 01:25:20.880 --> 01:25:22.680 michael esmay: For this, this public hearing. 1104 01:25:23.580 --> 01:25:24.660 Karen Tarapata: I think we can. 1105 01:25:24.690 --> 01:25:27.480 Karen Tarapata: If there's no one else who wishes to speak tonight. 1106 01:25:28.440 --> 01:25:33.360 sylviajeff: I have a question and I really was I came on board and everybody. 1107 01:25:33.570 --> 01:25:38.580 sylviajeff: isn't this law ready to second public meeting regarding the plan or Is that not the case. 1108 01:25:38.610 --> 01:25:39.240 Noelle Wolfson: This is the first. 1109 01:25:39.870 --> 01:25:51.240 Noelle Wolfson: second meeting all part of one hearing, so that this hearing was opened in June, but it was kept open you continue to elicit comics we did get a significant amount of comments and we wanted to make. 1110 01:25:52.440 --> 01:25:52.530 18456426153: It. 1111 01:25:52.740 --> 01:25:54.690 Noelle Wolfson: All within the context of this first hearing. 1112 01:25:54.690 --> 01:25:55.290 18456426153: So it's one. 1113 01:25:56.190 --> 01:25:57.000 Meeting so. 1114 01:25:59.400 --> 01:26:00.300 michael esmay: Is there any. 1115 01:26:00.840 --> 01:26:02.250 michael esmay: Noel to see any. 1116 01:26:02.790 --> 01:26:03.570 18456426153: advantage. 1117 01:26:03.930 --> 01:26:05.640 michael esmay: to keeping this public hearing open. 1118 01:26:06.090 --> 01:26:07.500 Noelle Wolfson: If there are no additional public. 1119 01:26:07.500 --> 01:26:11.070 Noelle Wolfson: comment, and I don't know that there's much more utility. 1120 01:26:11.580 --> 01:26:12.390 Keeping it open. 1121 01:26:15.450 --> 01:26:16.650 Karen Tarapata: Because people will have the. 1122 01:26:16.650 --> 01:26:18.060 18456426153: opportunity to comment. 1123 01:26:18.120 --> 01:26:19.290 18456426153: On the final version. 1124 01:26:21.360 --> 01:26:22.800 18456426153: And it's like the next. 1125 01:26:22.950 --> 01:26:23.880 michael esmay: it's a step. 1126 01:26:26.820 --> 01:26:28.560 michael esmay: Like to this thing to move along. 1127 01:26:29.550 --> 01:26:30.450 Karen Tarapata: Oh, my gosh. 1128 01:26:31.860 --> 01:26:33.630 Karen Tarapata: working on it three years now. 1129 01:26:33.690 --> 01:26:34.020 yeah. 1130 01:26:35.400 --> 01:26:35.760 Ken Rothchild: Yes. 1131 01:26:35.790 --> 01:26:36.600 it's been a while. 1132 01:26:37.830 --> 01:26:48.510 Ken Rothchild: I seem to get involved in very long negotiations, I I won't bore you out what those are I mean it seems to me if i'm a comment on this, that the comments presenter tonight by. 1133 01:26:48.870 --> 01:26:49.620 18456426153: Dave and. 1134 01:26:49.740 --> 01:26:55.950 Ken Rothchild: The standard environmental action are very modest that it doesn't seem that we have any further, so it seems to me. 1135 01:26:55.950 --> 01:26:56.280 18456426153: That. 1136 01:26:56.850 --> 01:26:59.760 Ken Rothchild: You know we've talked about how to incorporate what. 1137 01:27:00.300 --> 01:27:01.380 Ken Rothchild: The Community is brought to. 1138 01:27:01.380 --> 01:27:03.420 Ken Rothchild: US easily into what exists at this. 1139 01:27:03.420 --> 01:27:07.650 Ken Rothchild: moment and I think it behooves us to to close this first. 1140 01:27:08.160 --> 01:27:08.940 18456426153: public hearing. 1141 01:27:09.420 --> 01:27:11.130 Ken Rothchild: To make the adjustments and. 1142 01:27:11.370 --> 01:27:12.240 Ken Rothchild: present the. 1143 01:27:14.580 --> 01:27:15.720 18456426153: final version. 1144 01:27:15.720 --> 01:27:17.130 Ken Rothchild: As soon as we possibly can. 1145 01:27:18.360 --> 01:27:20.250 Karen Tarapata: that's great so that's emotion right. 1146 01:27:20.850 --> 01:27:21.780 Can I get a second. 1147 01:27:23.190 --> 01:27:23.670 michael esmay: Second. 1148 01:27:26.580 --> 01:27:28.710 michael esmay: As far as i'm concerned that was a resolution. 1149 01:27:30.180 --> 01:27:30.840 Karen Tarapata: Resolution. 1150 01:27:31.830 --> 01:27:32.160 Karen Tarapata: alright. 1151 01:27:32.430 --> 01:27:33.120 My second. 1152 01:27:38.100 --> 01:27:40.860 18456426153: I did I wasn't writing all that down I wasn't really. 1153 01:27:44.430 --> 01:27:50.370 Ken Rothchild: that's right, yes, can Roth child moves to close the first public hearing on the comprehensive plan. 1154 01:27:51.690 --> 01:27:52.200 18456426153: Okay. 1155 01:27:53.340 --> 01:27:55.710 Karen Tarapata: Mike second it all in favor say I. 1156 01:27:56.160 --> 01:27:56.820 michael esmay: Like I. 1157 01:27:57.510 --> 01:27:57.960 lauriedodge: said I. 1158 01:27:58.680 --> 01:28:01.080 sylviajeff: lori I Jeff I. 1159 01:28:01.950 --> 01:28:02.850 18456426153: Karen I. 1160 01:28:04.170 --> 01:28:07.410 Karen Tarapata: Great this is this is exciting I just feel that we're. 1161 01:28:08.220 --> 01:28:08.970 18456426153: we've we've. 1162 01:28:09.270 --> 01:28:13.710 Karen Tarapata: collected comments we've worked really hard and now we're ready to move ahead. 1163 01:28:13.800 --> 01:28:14.850 This is fantastic. 1164 01:28:16.380 --> 01:28:19.710 Karen Tarapata: Thank you all so much all right. 1165 01:28:20.280 --> 01:28:21.930 18456426153: Next next pile. 1166 01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:26.910 Karen Tarapata: Alright, the next thing on here is to set a public hearing. 1167 01:28:26.940 --> 01:28:28.680 Karen Tarapata: for local law number two of. 1168 01:28:28.710 --> 01:28:31.920 Karen Tarapata: 2021 extending the temporary moratorium. 1169 01:28:33.510 --> 01:28:36.660 Karen Tarapata: On commercial or residential land use applications. 1170 01:28:36.900 --> 01:28:38.160 Karen Tarapata: Property located. 1171 01:28:38.160 --> 01:28:39.030 18456426153: In the office. 1172 01:28:39.060 --> 01:28:41.790 Karen Tarapata: Business district laboratory office. 1173 01:28:41.820 --> 01:28:44.220 18456426153: district, and the arm for residential district. 1174 01:28:44.700 --> 01:28:46.950 Karen Tarapata: That affects the nine w word or. 1175 01:28:50.850 --> 01:28:53.130 Karen Tarapata: Continuing our more we're going to be. 1176 01:28:53.700 --> 01:28:55.020 Karen Tarapata: Continuing our moratorium. 1177 01:28:55.050 --> 01:28:57.720 Karen Tarapata: Until such time as we have our new. 1178 01:28:58.380 --> 01:29:00.240 18456426153: zoning code update in place. 1179 01:29:02.190 --> 01:29:04.530 Karen Tarapata: Somebody make a motion to have that public. 1180 01:29:04.530 --> 01:29:05.580 Karen Tarapata: hearing next month. 1181 01:29:07.080 --> 01:29:10.110 lauriedodge: it's lori i'll make the motion that we have a public hearing. 1182 01:29:10.890 --> 01:29:12.450 lauriedodge: Thursday local on number two. 1183 01:29:15.750 --> 01:29:16.560 18456426153: Can I get a second. 1184 01:29:16.980 --> 01:29:19.200 michael esmay: We do we add the fact that this, I think. 1185 01:29:19.290 --> 01:29:21.210 michael esmay: The cut off on this moratorium. 1186 01:29:22.440 --> 01:29:24.000 michael esmay: i'm reading this right is October the. 1187 01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:24.630 30th. 1188 01:29:27.210 --> 01:29:28.470 18456426153: know I think it's. 1189 01:29:28.590 --> 01:29:30.390 Karen Tarapata: Noel when does it's March as an. 1190 01:29:30.390 --> 01:29:32.520 Noelle Wolfson: anchor the current the current moratorium. 1191 01:29:32.970 --> 01:29:34.860 Noelle Wolfson: is due to expire march 30. 1192 01:29:34.920 --> 01:29:40.410 Noelle Wolfson: And then the proposal which will hold a public hearing on extend that to October yeah. 1193 01:29:40.470 --> 01:29:41.610 michael esmay: yeah yeah. 1194 01:29:41.670 --> 01:29:43.200 Karen Tarapata: Oh, I misunderstood. 1195 01:29:43.890 --> 01:29:44.850 michael esmay: Yes, I. 1196 01:29:45.630 --> 01:29:47.250 michael esmay: Put a put a time frame on it. 1197 01:29:49.140 --> 01:29:49.680 Karen Tarapata: Yes. 1198 01:29:51.270 --> 01:29:53.820 Karen Tarapata: October 30 so. 1199 01:29:54.300 --> 01:29:56.520 18456426153: So lori made a motion and who seconded. 1200 01:29:57.000 --> 01:29:57.750 Ken Rothchild: Can. 1201 01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:00.570 Ken Rothchild: i'll second that the public hearing. 1202 01:30:01.980 --> 01:30:03.240 Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye. 1203 01:30:04.200 --> 01:30:05.070 lauriedodge: lori I. 1204 01:30:11.100 --> 01:30:13.110 Ken Rothchild: jumped the bike I can I. 1205 01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:18.690 Karen Tarapata: Karen I alright have our work cut out for us next month to. 1206 01:30:19.590 --> 01:30:20.820 18456426153: Yes, ma'am. 1207 01:30:21.570 --> 01:30:38.520 Karen Tarapata: Now we have a another public hearing for local law number three extending the duration of the temporary moratorium on commercial or residential special use permits and special use permit renewal applications, which will also go until. 1208 01:30:39.240 --> 01:30:41.070 18456426153: The extension would be until October. 1209 01:30:41.070 --> 01:30:43.920 Karen Tarapata: 30 Is that correct well we aligned, the two. 1210 01:30:44.250 --> 01:30:44.580 Noelle Wolfson: Right. 1211 01:30:44.730 --> 01:30:45.900 18456426153: We want to do is align the two. 1212 01:30:45.930 --> 01:30:46.260 Right. 1213 01:30:48.540 --> 01:30:49.110 Karen Tarapata: Right. 1214 01:30:50.400 --> 01:30:53.700 Karen Tarapata: For the same reason, we need, we need the time to we're getting. 1215 01:30:53.700 --> 01:30:56.940 18456426153: Very close, we need the time to finish our. 1216 01:30:57.030 --> 01:31:01.530 Karen Tarapata: zoning code update, they are a comprehensive plan based the zoning code update. 1217 01:31:01.560 --> 01:31:04.170 Karen Tarapata: and be prepared to. 1218 01:31:05.010 --> 01:31:05.640 18456426153: Please. 1219 01:31:06.240 --> 01:31:07.620 Karen Tarapata: The changes that we wish. 1220 01:31:08.400 --> 01:31:08.850 Somebody. 1221 01:31:10.260 --> 01:31:13.260 michael esmay: motion that we extend the moratorium. 1222 01:31:13.590 --> 01:31:14.820 Karen Tarapata: notice that the public hearing. 1223 01:31:15.480 --> 01:31:15.960 michael esmay: I mean. 1224 01:31:16.440 --> 01:31:18.420 18456426153: i'm sorry to set a public hearing. 1225 01:31:19.560 --> 01:31:20.820 michael esmay: For the extension of. 1226 01:31:21.090 --> 01:31:25.710 michael esmay: Moratorium regarding special permits and special permit renewals. 1227 01:31:26.250 --> 01:31:31.980 michael esmay: For a period that will extend to October the 30th. 1228 01:31:32.190 --> 01:31:32.640 lauriedodge: i'll say. 1229 01:31:35.580 --> 01:31:36.810 Karen Tarapata: I think laurie got in there. 1230 01:31:36.810 --> 01:31:37.290 First. 1231 01:31:39.000 --> 01:31:40.530 sylviajeff: Oh Jeff. 1232 01:31:43.410 --> 01:31:44.520 lauriedodge: Jeff will third it. 1233 01:31:46.860 --> 01:31:48.630 Karen Tarapata: All right, all in favor say I. 1234 01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:49.560 michael esmay: Like I. 1235 01:31:51.930 --> 01:31:52.770 lauriedodge: lori I. 1236 01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:54.000 Ken Rothchild: Can I. 1237 01:31:55.230 --> 01:31:55.950 Karen Tarapata: hear an eye. 1238 01:31:56.880 --> 01:31:58.260 18456426153: Oh that's fantastic. 1239 01:32:00.660 --> 01:32:03.060 Karen Tarapata: Okay annexation discussion. 1240 01:32:03.810 --> 01:32:05.580 18456426153: The annotation petition. 1241 01:32:05.640 --> 01:32:06.810 Karen Tarapata: Wind and. 1242 01:32:07.230 --> 01:32:19.680 Karen Tarapata: All the associated documents went over to clark's town, this is the first step, their have their meeting next Tuesday to discuss it and to. 1243 01:32:21.780 --> 01:32:33.030 Karen Tarapata: set a public our joint public hearing we will be having a special meeting next Thursday, you know, often the last couple months we haven't had a workshop the last Thursday of the month. 1244 01:32:33.750 --> 01:32:48.180 Karen Tarapata: But this workshop next week will actually be a special meeting to set a public hearing for March night is that is that sufficient Noel just to schedule the special meeting for 128. 1245 01:32:49.920 --> 01:32:51.570 Noelle Wolfson: Yes, that should be fine and then we can. 1246 01:32:51.570 --> 01:32:53.850 Noelle Wolfson: have an agenda there'll be a couple of items on that. 1247 01:32:53.850 --> 01:32:57.000 Agenda associated with the annexation associated with yes. 1248 01:32:58.470 --> 01:33:04.860 Karen Tarapata: that's right we've already got it written we just haven't send it around yet and i'll make the zoom link tomorrow, so when the agenda goes out. 1249 01:33:05.460 --> 01:33:07.170 18456426153: The link will be attached to get. 1250 01:33:07.560 --> 01:33:10.650 lauriedodge: Karen so we don't need to be at the meeting next Tuesday. 1251 01:33:11.100 --> 01:33:17.190 Karen Tarapata: We do not Okay, we got a pass on that one that was a mistake on my part that I thought we had to. 1252 01:33:17.190 --> 01:33:17.880 Karen Tarapata: Be at that one. 1253 01:33:17.910 --> 01:33:21.390 Karen Tarapata: Also, but nope we just have they have theirs, we have ours. 1254 01:33:21.390 --> 01:33:21.750 lauriedodge: And we. 1255 01:33:22.200 --> 01:33:24.210 Karen Tarapata: get together in March okay. 1256 01:33:27.060 --> 01:33:27.600 Karen Tarapata: alright. 1257 01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:36.510 Karen Tarapata: The next item we don't have to make a resolution i'm just setting that special meeting I guess that's my prerogative as a mayor. 1258 01:33:39.180 --> 01:33:42.570 Karen Tarapata: Amending the schedule of fees as we talked about. 1259 01:33:43.890 --> 01:33:45.330 Karen Tarapata: As we talked about. 1260 01:33:47.820 --> 01:33:52.470 Karen Tarapata: At our workshop meeting we discussed in a general way. 1261 01:33:55.050 --> 01:33:56.370 Karen Tarapata: adjusting our schedule. 1262 01:33:57.750 --> 01:34:06.480 Karen Tarapata: Because of the new architectural review Board and the fact law and the fact that people would be returning often returning to the planning board. 1263 01:34:08.220 --> 01:34:09.030 Karen Tarapata: And our. 1264 01:34:09.480 --> 01:34:11.130 Karen Tarapata: Discussion if I remember. 1265 01:34:11.130 --> 01:34:12.510 Karen Tarapata: and correct me if i'm wrong. 1266 01:34:12.510 --> 01:34:12.870 here. 1267 01:34:14.040 --> 01:34:16.350 Karen Tarapata: Well we're applications to the planning board. 1268 01:34:16.680 --> 01:34:18.120 i'd like to propose. 1269 01:34:19.170 --> 01:34:22.950 Karen Tarapata: That the site plan application is $300. 1270 01:34:23.730 --> 01:34:24.810 Karen Tarapata: For the first. 1271 01:34:24.870 --> 01:34:26.370 Two appearances. 1272 01:34:27.570 --> 01:34:27.870 Karen Tarapata: and 1273 01:34:27.900 --> 01:34:29.880 18456426153: $100 for. 1274 01:34:29.910 --> 01:34:31.350 Karen Tarapata: each subsequent. 1275 01:34:31.800 --> 01:34:33.120 18456426153: Third, or subsequent. 1276 01:34:33.180 --> 01:34:34.980 Karen Tarapata: appearance before the planning board. 1277 01:34:39.060 --> 01:34:40.110 18456426153: $300. 1278 01:34:40.140 --> 01:34:40.620 michael esmay: Is that. 1279 01:34:41.730 --> 01:34:42.690 18456426153: That means. 1280 01:34:42.780 --> 01:34:44.370 18456426153: architectural review board right. 1281 01:34:46.410 --> 01:34:48.390 Karen Tarapata: That means that's for the planning. 1282 01:34:48.390 --> 01:34:48.810 board. 1283 01:34:50.400 --> 01:34:51.840 Karen Tarapata: So we're going to go with the other. 1284 01:34:54.450 --> 01:34:55.470 michael esmay: Okay i'm sorry. 1285 01:34:55.620 --> 01:34:56.670 18456426153: I got yes. 1286 01:34:57.420 --> 01:34:58.260 michael esmay: I understand that. 1287 01:34:58.410 --> 01:35:00.030 sylviajeff: doesn't include it doesn't include them. 1288 01:35:00.030 --> 01:35:01.860 18456426153: jointly, the first to. 1289 01:35:06.510 --> 01:35:08.370 michael esmay: Review boards a separate application. 1290 01:35:09.300 --> 01:35:10.500 18456426153: Application because it has a. 1291 01:35:10.620 --> 01:35:11.160 Separate. 1292 01:35:12.750 --> 01:35:13.530 Karen Tarapata: thing is we're not. 1293 01:35:14.100 --> 01:35:17.010 Karen Tarapata: If they don't because you know if they don't have to go. 1294 01:35:17.700 --> 01:35:18.060 18456426153: You know. 1295 01:35:21.780 --> 01:35:21.960 Karen Tarapata: They. 1296 01:35:21.990 --> 01:35:23.640 Karen Tarapata: have to go to the extra support and then. 1297 01:35:23.700 --> 01:35:25.830 Karen Tarapata: Go back to the planning board we're trying to. 1298 01:35:25.890 --> 01:35:26.880 18456426153: reduce the. 1299 01:35:27.030 --> 01:35:28.290 18456426153: onerous nature of. 1300 01:35:28.740 --> 01:35:29.460 Karen Tarapata: charging them. 1301 01:35:29.490 --> 01:35:30.120 for that. 1302 01:35:32.100 --> 01:35:32.850 18456426153: appearance. 1303 01:35:33.390 --> 01:35:35.790 Karen Tarapata: Second appearance, more than a little bit so. 1304 01:35:37.200 --> 01:35:37.860 18456426153: Right so. 1305 01:35:38.010 --> 01:35:40.050 18456426153: So it's $300 for those the. 1306 01:35:40.110 --> 01:35:44.580 sylviajeff: Combined first two because it is how much for each one after that. 1307 01:35:45.270 --> 01:35:47.250 Karen Tarapata: That what it is right now, after that. 1308 01:35:47.250 --> 01:35:50.910 Karen Tarapata: would be $100 for each return okay so we're upping the. 1309 01:35:50.940 --> 01:35:53.310 18456426153: we're upping the site plan application features. 1310 01:35:53.640 --> 01:35:54.720 Karen Tarapata: are proposing two. 1311 01:35:55.110 --> 01:35:58.110 18456426153: To $300 for the first two appearances. 1312 01:35:58.770 --> 01:35:59.820 Karen Tarapata: And that way we're not really. 1313 01:35:59.820 --> 01:36:00.600 Karen Tarapata: Changing. 1314 01:36:00.840 --> 01:36:01.860 Karen Tarapata: Anything else. 1315 01:36:01.950 --> 01:36:02.580 On the. 1316 01:36:03.750 --> 01:36:05.100 Karen Tarapata: schedule of fees. 1317 01:36:05.490 --> 01:36:06.030 sylviajeff: mm hmm. 1318 01:36:08.580 --> 01:36:11.370 Karen Tarapata: Carol do you foresee any issues. 1319 01:36:11.400 --> 01:36:12.150 18456426153: With that. 1320 01:36:14.130 --> 01:36:16.080 18456426153: Changing the application see. 1321 01:36:16.680 --> 01:36:19.650 Karen Tarapata: we're changing the APP the application fee. 1322 01:36:24.810 --> 01:36:30.150 Karen Tarapata: site plan application right now says same application to the planning. 1323 01:36:30.180 --> 01:36:30.810 Karen Tarapata: board I. 1324 01:36:31.320 --> 01:36:33.720 Karen Tarapata: Say plane application $250. 1325 01:36:33.750 --> 01:36:37.140 Karen Tarapata: Plus 125 for each proposed residential unit. 1326 01:36:38.790 --> 01:36:45.210 Karen Tarapata: Okay, plus the cost of this and that but we're changing this to make it $300 for the first two. 1327 01:36:45.270 --> 01:36:46.290 appearances. 1328 01:36:48.840 --> 01:36:53.700 18456426153: Alright, so on the bottom there words and $100 each return is that. 1329 01:36:54.330 --> 01:36:57.750 Karen Tarapata: That stage where they return. 1330 01:36:58.200 --> 01:37:00.270 Karen Tarapata: Beyond the first two. 1331 01:37:01.080 --> 01:37:01.440 Okay. 1332 01:37:05.430 --> 01:37:06.900 18456426153: So everybody's going to go. 1333 01:37:09.570 --> 01:37:10.470 18456426153: To the planning board. 1334 01:37:11.700 --> 01:37:12.450 18456426153: They can. 1335 01:37:12.930 --> 01:37:14.910 Karen Tarapata: Take let's put it this way they're paying for the. 1336 01:37:14.910 --> 01:37:16.860 Karen Tarapata: right was there one APP with. 1337 01:37:17.160 --> 01:37:19.710 Karen Tarapata: With that one $300 fee they had the right to. 1338 01:37:19.710 --> 01:37:20.490 18456426153: appear twice. 1339 01:37:23.550 --> 01:37:28.260 18456426153: Before that hundred dollar return for right thanks effect okay. 1340 01:37:29.610 --> 01:37:32.730 Karen Tarapata: This we're assuming that most will end up coming twice. 1341 01:37:33.960 --> 01:37:41.070 Karen Tarapata: and giving them the twice with inclined them to want to get get their paperwork together and not come back a third time. 1342 01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:52.470 18456426153: So you're not going to make any changes to the application for the architectural review board that stays the same. 1343 01:37:53.070 --> 01:37:55.500 18456426153: That stays the same okay. 1344 01:37:57.450 --> 01:37:59.640 18456426153: it's just that one see that changes right. 1345 01:38:00.960 --> 01:38:01.680 Karen Tarapata: Exactly. 1346 01:38:03.420 --> 01:38:07.020 Karen Tarapata: And the nice thing is the way that we now have our schedule of fees. 1347 01:38:07.110 --> 01:38:07.710 18456426153: If there. 1348 01:38:07.740 --> 01:38:09.570 18456426153: needs to be an. 1349 01:38:09.780 --> 01:38:12.330 Karen Tarapata: change in the future, we can do that. 1350 01:38:13.500 --> 01:38:32.070 Karen Tarapata: I think that it's we always have to try and do something to make things work well, but sometimes they need adjustment, this is our way of trying to deal with the fact that people will be more people will be returning to the planning board after going to the architecture review board. 1351 01:38:34.170 --> 01:38:39.420 Karen Tarapata: because anyone who does go to the architecture review board has to go back to the planning board Am I correct Noel. 1352 01:38:41.130 --> 01:38:43.170 sylviajeff: I think that's the reason behind it yeah. 1353 01:38:43.290 --> 01:38:53.550 Noelle Wolfson: Yes, if there are structural alterations that require architectural review board review that it's necessarily going to be a planning board architectural review board planning board review process perfect. 1354 01:38:54.360 --> 01:38:59.730 Karen Tarapata: All right, with somebody would like to make a resolution to change the site plan application. 1355 01:39:02.700 --> 01:39:10.020 sylviajeff: i'll make a resolution that we change the site plan application fee to $300 for the first two meetings. 1356 01:39:10.110 --> 01:39:13.410 sylviajeff: Of the bulk of the book of both boards. 1357 01:39:13.470 --> 01:39:20.610 sylviajeff: And then we keep the $100 fee for each return visit following those first you know that's not right Mike. 1358 01:39:22.290 --> 01:39:22.680 lauriedodge: Because. 1359 01:39:23.700 --> 01:39:26.700 Karen Tarapata: For the first two parents before the planning board. 1360 01:39:26.880 --> 01:39:27.840 sylviajeff: Before the planning point. 1361 01:39:29.010 --> 01:39:41.550 sylviajeff: So that's what i'd like to do, change the site plan active application fee to $300 but the first two visits planning board and maintain $100 for each return visit following those first two. 1362 01:39:43.020 --> 01:39:43.440 All right. 1363 01:39:45.570 --> 01:39:46.770 18456426153: i'll second lori. 1364 01:39:48.300 --> 01:39:49.950 Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye. 1365 01:39:50.400 --> 01:39:51.000 michael esmay: Right guy. 1366 01:39:51.930 --> 01:39:52.740 Ken Rothchild: Can I. 1367 01:39:54.630 --> 01:39:54.960 sylviajeff: Join. 1368 01:39:58.350 --> 01:39:59.100 Karen Tarapata: wrong in. 1369 01:40:01.590 --> 01:40:02.280 Karen Tarapata: Great. 1370 01:40:03.660 --> 01:40:05.190 Karen Tarapata: Okay let's see here. 1371 01:40:05.190 --> 01:40:06.990 18456426153: Now, yes. 1372 01:40:07.770 --> 01:40:08.490 18456426153: Are you going. 1373 01:40:08.550 --> 01:40:09.630 Karen Tarapata: We had a. 1374 01:40:09.720 --> 01:40:11.220 Karen Tarapata: We actually got a bid. 1375 01:40:11.730 --> 01:40:16.290 18456426153: For radiant heating up the garage This is nothing. 1376 01:40:16.770 --> 01:40:21.030 Karen Tarapata: Like do we have with this is our third bit that we rejected the first two. 1377 01:40:22.680 --> 01:40:23.460 18456426153: And this is. 1378 01:40:23.670 --> 01:40:32.850 Karen Tarapata: We read published it in the New York contract reporter casting a wider net and we got another abl contractors. 1379 01:40:32.850 --> 01:40:35.970 michael esmay: Official New York, London effortless fish. 1380 01:40:40.410 --> 01:40:42.750 Karen Tarapata: So Carol would you like to read the. 1381 01:40:43.860 --> 01:40:44.640 The result. 1382 01:40:50.310 --> 01:40:53.670 18456426153: Okay, on January 19 20 2011 o'clock. 1383 01:40:55.020 --> 01:40:57.330 18456426153: I received one field bid. 1384 01:40:58.590 --> 01:41:06.120 18456426153: From abl contractors think 4053 tretton road fishkill New York 1252 for. 1385 01:41:07.860 --> 01:41:10.830 18456426153: The because of kovats there was no public opening. 1386 01:41:11.880 --> 01:41:13.740 18456426153: or no, no public attended. 1387 01:41:15.630 --> 01:41:23.220 18456426153: And the bid was opened and the amount of the bid was $20,188 and no sense. 1388 01:41:24.390 --> 01:41:31.080 18456426153: bidding was closed at 11:02am or 11am. 1389 01:41:32.490 --> 01:41:32.790 18456426153: yeah. 1390 01:41:34.860 --> 01:41:35.190 18456426153: Sorry. 1391 01:41:36.360 --> 01:41:39.450 18456426153: Right i'm looking right at it and say a. 1392 01:41:40.470 --> 01:41:42.360 18456426153: little bit of discussion here. 1393 01:41:42.810 --> 01:41:44.820 Karen Tarapata: I had chill collect the. 1394 01:41:45.960 --> 01:41:47.010 18456426153: Cost of. 1395 01:41:47.040 --> 01:41:47.550 Karen Tarapata: Our. 1396 01:41:48.060 --> 01:41:55.440 Karen Tarapata: The gas that we use to heat the dp w garage and right now we spend about 30 $500 a year. 1397 01:41:56.640 --> 01:42:00.270 Karen Tarapata: On gas for the for the for the cpw barrage. 1398 01:42:00.960 --> 01:42:02.970 18456426153: And Mike you were saying that. 1399 01:42:05.130 --> 01:42:06.360 18456426153: engineer was telling you. 1400 01:42:06.390 --> 01:42:07.560 Karen Tarapata: We probably save. 1401 01:42:07.620 --> 01:42:09.540 18456426153: At least 30% by. 1402 01:42:10.020 --> 01:42:10.500 Changing. 1403 01:42:12.090 --> 01:42:13.590 michael esmay: I talked to him today. 1404 01:42:14.190 --> 01:42:15.750 michael esmay: He says the manufacturers of. 1405 01:42:15.750 --> 01:42:17.220 michael esmay: These radian. 1406 01:42:17.520 --> 01:42:26.910 michael esmay: Units they use standard to save anywhere from 40 to 50% However, he feels that to be. 1407 01:42:27.150 --> 01:42:27.900 18456426153: safe. 1408 01:42:27.960 --> 01:42:29.670 18456426153: You know from his point of view. 1409 01:42:30.120 --> 01:42:32.220 michael esmay: 30% is for sure. 1410 01:42:34.350 --> 01:42:44.610 Karen Tarapata: So if we were to say 30% of 30 with let's just say conservatively, we could save over $1,000 a year and just in fuel cost. 1411 01:42:45.450 --> 01:42:46.350 michael esmay: yeah but. 1412 01:42:47.940 --> 01:42:48.870 michael esmay: it's more than that. 1413 01:42:52.500 --> 01:43:00.210 michael esmay: And this one will take a little more to try to figure it out, but the existing eating system has to. 1414 01:43:01.320 --> 01:43:03.150 michael esmay: Air handlers that have large. 1415 01:43:04.650 --> 01:43:06.540 18456426153: motors driving fans. 1416 01:43:10.320 --> 01:43:10.650 18456426153: yeah. 1417 01:43:10.980 --> 01:43:12.090 michael esmay: A considerable amount of. 1418 01:43:12.090 --> 01:43:13.770 michael esmay: Electrical so. 1419 01:43:13.980 --> 01:43:15.330 michael esmay: it's not only the cost of the. 1420 01:43:15.330 --> 01:43:16.440 michael esmay: guests it's the cost of. 1421 01:43:16.440 --> 01:43:19.380 michael esmay: Electricity these radiant. 1422 01:43:20.460 --> 01:43:22.860 michael esmay: heaters us and a half horsepower motor. 1423 01:43:24.660 --> 01:43:24.990 michael esmay: word. 1424 01:43:26.130 --> 01:43:35.400 michael esmay: know as opposed to two horsepower motors for each each fan and it's not just to fans there's actually four fans or to exhaust fans. 1425 01:43:37.650 --> 01:43:39.510 michael esmay: on either side of the building that are. 1426 01:43:39.690 --> 01:43:42.810 michael esmay: locked into this existing system so. 1427 01:43:44.670 --> 01:43:46.650 michael esmay: There will be a considerable savings and. 1428 01:43:46.650 --> 01:43:47.670 michael esmay: Electricity to. 1429 01:43:49.410 --> 01:43:51.060 18456426153: An end and it's responsible. 1430 01:43:51.060 --> 01:43:53.460 Karen Tarapata: To try and make our. 1431 01:43:54.090 --> 01:43:59.670 Karen Tarapata: Building more energy efficient, and this would be remarkably right now we're heating, the outdoors. 1432 01:43:59.700 --> 01:44:00.270 18456426153: And the up. 1433 01:44:00.330 --> 01:44:01.230 18456426153: And the mezzanine. 1434 01:44:01.560 --> 01:44:02.730 Karen Tarapata: And the guys are cold. 1435 01:44:04.350 --> 01:44:08.820 michael esmay: yeah and then that's it comfort, you know the floor it's cold. 1436 01:44:10.170 --> 01:44:12.060 michael esmay: you're pumping all this heat into the building. 1437 01:44:12.720 --> 01:44:13.650 Then it just really. 1438 01:44:14.820 --> 01:44:17.430 michael esmay: rating he gets the heat to the floor. 1439 01:44:18.450 --> 01:44:23.940 michael esmay: The floor heats up the trucks heat up you know the men heat up that's how it works. 1440 01:44:25.350 --> 01:44:25.980 Karen Tarapata: every night good. 1441 01:44:26.220 --> 01:44:28.080 Karen Tarapata: Eating things that are stored on the. 1442 01:44:28.080 --> 01:44:30.210 Karen Tarapata: mezzanine those are the only things that are warmer. 1443 01:44:32.490 --> 01:44:35.700 michael esmay: You can't exactly shield the mezzanine but. 1444 01:44:37.350 --> 01:44:39.810 michael esmay: So there's going to be heat up there, too, but. 1445 01:44:41.040 --> 01:44:43.830 michael esmay: The main floor is going to be he did. 1446 01:44:45.150 --> 01:44:47.340 michael esmay: You know much better, more uniformly. 1447 01:44:48.390 --> 01:44:51.870 michael esmay: And there's no question about that and it's going to save us money. 1448 01:44:52.650 --> 01:45:04.200 sylviajeff: I have a question I think this is a good idea to do is this the same thing that we have thought would end up costing like $303,000 or is that something that like was a different approach. 1449 01:45:04.260 --> 01:45:08.460 michael esmay: know when we when we talked about the last. 1450 01:45:09.090 --> 01:45:09.810 18456426153: minutes. 1451 01:45:09.900 --> 01:45:12.000 The Minutes said $3,000. 1452 01:45:13.530 --> 01:45:14.700 michael esmay: I know I never said. 1453 01:45:14.700 --> 01:45:19.560 $3,000 30,000 30,000. 1454 01:45:22.710 --> 01:45:23.250 Karen Tarapata: and 1455 01:45:24.030 --> 01:45:25.470 Karen Tarapata: So, this would be paid for in. 1456 01:45:25.470 --> 01:45:26.910 Karen Tarapata: About 10 years just. 1457 01:45:26.910 --> 01:45:27.840 18456426153: In savings. 1458 01:45:28.530 --> 01:45:30.990 Karen Tarapata: So I think this would be a really excellent. 1459 01:45:31.020 --> 01:45:33.870 18456426153: upgrade to the VIP barrage. 1460 01:45:34.080 --> 01:45:39.180 Karen Tarapata: The next thing I want to look at is the lighting and see if we can save energy on the lighting here. 1461 01:45:39.810 --> 01:45:41.040 18456426153: Tonight I would like to. 1462 01:45:41.880 --> 01:45:45.930 Karen Tarapata: Ask the board to accept it bed and. 1463 01:45:46.740 --> 01:45:49.170 michael esmay: It would be on the condition of. 1464 01:45:50.370 --> 01:46:03.480 michael esmay: The vibe liability is that the right word of the contractor, you know, this is a person up in peekskill so i'm not 100% sure about them immediate, there are people who picked up the beard off this the. 1465 01:46:04.620 --> 01:46:05.670 michael esmay: This contract. 1466 01:46:06.270 --> 01:46:07.470 michael esmay: was a call again. 1467 01:46:11.400 --> 01:46:12.540 michael esmay: Contract reporter. 1468 01:46:12.960 --> 01:46:14.700 michael esmay: So they need to. 1469 01:46:14.730 --> 01:46:16.950 michael esmay: They need to be checked out so. 1470 01:46:18.000 --> 01:46:18.300 sylviajeff: Okay. 1471 01:46:20.520 --> 01:46:24.210 Karen Tarapata: But I think you're what you're worried that How would you weren't the. 1472 01:46:24.840 --> 01:46:25.740 Unconditional. 1473 01:46:26.760 --> 01:46:28.350 michael esmay: The the. 1474 01:46:28.530 --> 01:46:31.500 michael esmay: bid says the qualified bitter. 1475 01:46:32.040 --> 01:46:37.110 michael esmay: So i'm just all i'm saying is that they have to, we have to determine that they're qualified bitter. 1476 01:46:38.010 --> 01:46:38.490 Okay. 1477 01:46:39.840 --> 01:46:45.150 Karen Tarapata: So what What do people think is this, I think it's worth the worth the expenditure. 1478 01:46:45.240 --> 01:46:47.190 18456426153: But what do you often. 1479 01:46:52.800 --> 01:46:54.120 18456426153: I agree with Mike if they're I. 1480 01:46:54.120 --> 01:46:56.430 lauriedodge: don't I don't know anything about them either if. 1481 01:46:56.550 --> 01:46:58.440 lauriedodge: We determine they're qualified bitter. 1482 01:46:58.500 --> 01:46:59.400 18456426153: i'm fine with it, I. 1483 01:47:00.030 --> 01:47:01.350 believe they can do the work. 1484 01:47:03.780 --> 01:47:06.300 Ken Rothchild: I guess, I would say coming at it from the environmental. 1485 01:47:06.300 --> 01:47:07.470 Ken Rothchild: side you know if we're. 1486 01:47:07.470 --> 01:47:12.270 Ken Rothchild: using less gas and the heating of our garage that that. 1487 01:47:12.960 --> 01:47:15.930 Ken Rothchild: You know, is that's an additional benefit and. 1488 01:47:16.260 --> 01:47:17.070 Ken Rothchild: Beyond the. 1489 01:47:17.220 --> 01:47:19.890 Ken Rothchild: You know, pay off in 10 years to the expenditure. 1490 01:47:21.780 --> 01:47:23.670 18456426153: And the comfortability. 1491 01:47:24.360 --> 01:47:24.690 huh. 1492 01:47:25.980 --> 01:47:29.640 Ken Rothchild: Award winner yeah particularly he's gonna be there 45 more years oh. 1493 01:47:34.380 --> 01:47:35.490 Karen Tarapata: My God all right. 1494 01:47:36.240 --> 01:47:36.900 sylviajeff: What is the. 1495 01:47:37.170 --> 01:47:38.490 sylviajeff: lifetime of one of these. 1496 01:47:38.490 --> 01:47:41.760 sylviajeff: readings this last like 2530 years. 1497 01:47:42.570 --> 01:47:43.260 sylviajeff: Any idea. 1498 01:47:43.650 --> 01:47:46.230 michael esmay: I yes okay. 1499 01:47:46.500 --> 01:47:46.740 18456426153: it's a. 1500 01:47:46.920 --> 01:47:48.690 michael esmay: fairly simple mechanism that's. 1501 01:47:49.200 --> 01:47:53.790 michael esmay: that's what's good about it, if you when you see it there's not going to be much up there in the in the. 1502 01:47:55.350 --> 01:48:01.620 michael esmay: In the space above the floor it's a to it gets suspended from the ceiling. 1503 01:48:02.400 --> 01:48:02.820 And then. 1504 01:48:03.990 --> 01:48:04.320 Karen Tarapata: That is. 1505 01:48:04.380 --> 01:48:09.090 Karen Tarapata: Something Mike the guys were asking if any of that all of the other stuff could be removed. 1506 01:48:10.770 --> 01:48:12.000 michael esmay: So there's no need. 1507 01:48:12.900 --> 01:48:13.440 alright. 1508 01:48:14.580 --> 01:48:15.360 michael esmay: that's fine. 1509 01:48:15.450 --> 01:48:17.070 michael esmay: No need you can stay there. 1510 01:48:18.240 --> 01:48:18.660 Karen Tarapata: Good. 1511 01:48:20.160 --> 01:48:21.630 michael esmay: Otherwise we'd have to pay for it. 1512 01:48:22.830 --> 01:48:26.700 Karen Tarapata: yeah we that exactly we'd have to pay for someone to take it all down yeah. 1513 01:48:26.760 --> 01:48:28.440 michael esmay: And that's a big job so. 1514 01:48:29.520 --> 01:48:30.270 Karen Tarapata: Leave it alone. 1515 01:48:32.430 --> 01:48:33.030 perfect. 1516 01:48:34.050 --> 01:48:39.360 Karen Tarapata: All right, with someone make a motion to accept the bid for the radiant heating. 1517 01:48:41.100 --> 01:48:42.390 Karen Tarapata: contingent on. 1518 01:48:42.990 --> 01:48:48.000 Karen Tarapata: The professional qualifications of the contractors. 1519 01:48:50.400 --> 01:48:52.710 michael esmay: will make them motion like. 1520 01:48:53.790 --> 01:48:55.080 Ken Rothchild: This can i'll second. 1521 01:48:57.180 --> 01:48:58.590 Karen Tarapata: All in favor say I. 1522 01:48:59.550 --> 01:49:00.090 michael esmay: Like I. 1523 01:49:00.990 --> 01:49:01.950 Ken Rothchild: Can I. 1524 01:49:06.960 --> 01:49:11.130 lauriedodge: lori I, we should have an order, we have to order. 1525 01:49:11.160 --> 01:49:11.820 michael esmay: No, no. 1526 01:49:15.780 --> 01:49:16.380 Ken Rothchild: I think we're. 1527 01:49:17.490 --> 01:49:18.090 Ken Rothchild: Except on. 1528 01:49:18.150 --> 01:49:19.410 Ken Rothchild: odd number days. 1529 01:49:19.830 --> 01:49:23.160 Ken Rothchild: were finally to alphabetical by middle name I say. 1530 01:49:24.030 --> 01:49:25.680 Karen Tarapata: Well, do rock paper scissors. 1531 01:49:26.580 --> 01:49:27.960 sylviajeff: That, in the form of emotion. 1532 01:49:31.050 --> 01:49:32.700 Karen Tarapata: This is very exciting, this is. 1533 01:49:34.560 --> 01:49:36.630 Karen Tarapata: The only other things I have. 1534 01:49:36.630 --> 01:49:38.820 18456426153: Tonight, are. 1535 01:49:40.440 --> 01:49:41.130 Karen Tarapata: crossing. 1536 01:49:41.910 --> 01:49:44.220 Karen Tarapata: That our neighbors on. 1537 01:49:44.280 --> 01:49:44.910 Karen Tarapata: i'm out. 1538 01:49:45.210 --> 01:49:50.400 Karen Tarapata: want some signs up for the deer crossing I don't even know what that involves I. 1539 01:49:51.540 --> 01:49:54.390 Karen Tarapata: i'm sort of at a loss i'd like to postpone that. 1540 01:49:56.730 --> 01:49:59.130 michael esmay: I saw that doesn't mean. 1541 01:49:59.760 --> 01:50:03.390 michael esmay: We have to put deer crossing on every cross street. 1542 01:50:03.750 --> 01:50:05.760 lauriedodge: Everywhere in the village. 1543 01:50:05.970 --> 01:50:08.130 lauriedodge: No property to. 1544 01:50:09.210 --> 01:50:14.370 Karen Tarapata: They cry they cross on Midland I stopped this morning I stopped and let them. 1545 01:50:14.730 --> 01:50:16.260 18456426153: go across. 1546 01:50:16.980 --> 01:50:17.130 michael esmay: All. 1547 01:50:17.700 --> 01:50:18.990 lauriedodge: Of them there her. 1548 01:50:19.980 --> 01:50:20.520 18456426153: If we. 1549 01:50:20.610 --> 01:50:21.600 michael esmay: If we do it. 1550 01:50:22.050 --> 01:50:23.430 18456426153: How about at the entry points to. 1551 01:50:23.430 --> 01:50:24.030 18456426153: The village. 1552 01:50:28.020 --> 01:50:28.560 18456426153: well. 1553 01:50:29.520 --> 01:50:30.510 Karen Tarapata: we're going to read. 1554 01:50:40.320 --> 01:50:40.830 lauriedodge: We can. 1555 01:50:41.790 --> 01:50:43.590 lauriedodge: build corridors that. 1556 01:50:43.620 --> 01:50:44.970 lauriedodge: that's where they live. 1557 01:50:45.030 --> 01:50:46.500 18456426153: In the corridors so. 1558 01:50:46.500 --> 01:50:47.790 lauriedodge: That our plants. 1559 01:50:48.060 --> 01:50:49.470 18456426153: And our cars can be. 1560 01:50:49.470 --> 01:50:49.950 lauriedodge: safe. 1561 01:50:50.310 --> 01:50:51.810 18456426153: Dear and they can be safe. 1562 01:50:53.340 --> 01:50:53.940 lauriedodge: amazed. 1563 01:50:55.320 --> 01:50:58.500 Karen Tarapata: At the at the entrance to the village that isn't a bad. 1564 01:50:58.500 --> 01:50:59.280 18456426153: idea actually. 1565 01:50:59.310 --> 01:51:01.710 Karen Tarapata: just say slow down deer crossing or. 1566 01:51:01.710 --> 01:51:03.690 lauriedodge: Something slow down, dear. 1567 01:51:04.050 --> 01:51:05.460 michael esmay: Many dear, oh no that's. 1568 01:51:05.910 --> 01:51:08.010 michael esmay: that's part of the information that people. 1569 01:51:08.010 --> 01:51:09.720 michael esmay: See when they enter the village. 1570 01:51:11.280 --> 01:51:15.420 Karen Tarapata: it's thinking about it, to see if there's even a way to do it. 1571 01:51:15.810 --> 01:51:17.760 Karen Tarapata: If there isn't visual overload you like. 1572 01:51:18.030 --> 01:51:20.100 Karen Tarapata: If you want to slow down for children how about. 1573 01:51:22.470 --> 01:51:22.890 18456426153: yeah. 1574 01:51:23.520 --> 01:51:26.610 michael esmay: yeah or stop at stop signs. 1575 01:51:26.700 --> 01:51:28.080 lauriedodge: yeah then there's. 1576 01:51:29.250 --> 01:51:31.080 lauriedodge: The raw file. 1577 01:51:32.400 --> 01:51:32.700 Ken Rothchild: Right. 1578 01:51:32.880 --> 01:51:35.040 lauriedodge: I am curious oh parking. 1579 01:51:35.430 --> 01:51:35.820 18456426153: You know. 1580 01:51:35.880 --> 01:51:37.080 18456426153: I am curious. 1581 01:51:37.140 --> 01:51:38.460 Ken Rothchild: As to. 1582 01:51:39.360 --> 01:51:41.220 18456426153: You know the perception of. 1583 01:51:41.880 --> 01:51:45.210 Ken Rothchild: danger on that particular street that. 1584 01:51:45.330 --> 01:51:45.780 18456426153: You know it. 1585 01:51:46.860 --> 01:51:47.250 18456426153: I mean. 1586 01:51:47.310 --> 01:51:54.120 Ken Rothchild: Are there have there been incidents beyond the fact that they see deer walking across the street, I mean that's you know that. 1587 01:51:55.260 --> 01:52:00.750 Ken Rothchild: I yeah they've been close calls have they been speeding down high margin and all sudden had to stop I. 1588 01:52:00.750 --> 01:52:03.120 Ken Rothchild: mean there's deer all over the place. 1589 01:52:04.680 --> 01:52:06.210 Karen Tarapata: Here we only in my backyard. 1590 01:52:06.210 --> 01:52:07.680 michael esmay: I do know street. 1591 01:52:08.850 --> 01:52:09.120 Ken Rothchild: yeah. 1592 01:52:09.300 --> 01:52:12.900 Ken Rothchild: I saw them down in your garden just say, well, what used to be your garden actually. 1593 01:52:13.020 --> 01:52:14.820 lauriedodge: yeah right there are no more car. 1594 01:52:15.630 --> 01:52:16.950 lauriedodge: there's no more green. 1595 01:52:16.980 --> 01:52:19.860 lauriedodge: In the village of upper nice what happened it's all Brown. 1596 01:52:21.240 --> 01:52:21.990 lauriedodge: Dear. 1597 01:52:22.770 --> 01:52:25.770 Ken Rothchild: don't know I you know I. 1598 01:52:27.090 --> 01:52:38.190 Karen Tarapata: Well we'll see we'll see if there's an intelligent way to address it at the entrance to the village, but we can't be putting them on the streets, because also they're going to move they're going to save they go everywhere. 1599 01:52:38.970 --> 01:52:40.050 michael esmay: yeah yeah. 1600 01:52:40.200 --> 01:52:43.740 Karen Tarapata: i'll respond i'll write them back and tell them what we're thinking. 1601 01:52:45.690 --> 01:52:48.240 lauriedodge: um can I speaking of signs are we. 1602 01:52:48.960 --> 01:52:49.440 lauriedodge: Now that. 1603 01:52:49.470 --> 01:52:57.300 lauriedodge: we're not parking on North broadway or they're going to be signs put up along the way, saying. 1604 01:52:57.330 --> 01:52:58.590 lauriedodge: That there is no parking. 1605 01:52:59.190 --> 01:53:00.630 Karen Tarapata: yeah they just order that they. 1606 01:53:00.660 --> 01:53:02.220 Karen Tarapata: They only paint trouble. 1607 01:53:02.250 --> 01:53:05.400 Karen Tarapata: Times they're buying some new signs. 1608 01:53:05.430 --> 01:53:07.560 18456426153: And the ground just froze finally. 1609 01:53:07.830 --> 01:53:08.400 Karen Tarapata: But the ground. 1610 01:53:08.430 --> 01:53:10.380 Karen Tarapata: froze so now it'll be marched before they can. 1611 01:53:11.910 --> 01:53:15.690 Karen Tarapata: Because they were or they went to try and move aside today, and they were like. 1612 01:53:16.710 --> 01:53:18.420 18456426153: No, no yeah. 1613 01:53:21.060 --> 01:53:23.310 Ken Rothchild: Maybe that new leatherman has a ground. 1614 01:53:23.460 --> 01:53:25.140 Ken Rothchild: Breaking tool for frozen ground. 1615 01:53:25.140 --> 01:53:25.380 I. 1616 01:53:26.400 --> 01:53:27.810 Ken Rothchild: know that he's got a good one night. 1617 01:53:30.240 --> 01:53:31.650 Karen Tarapata: that's right boom. 1618 01:53:33.720 --> 01:53:37.290 michael esmay: The ground outside this door hearing frozen so. 1619 01:53:38.010 --> 01:53:41.760 lauriedodge: yeah I actually put a stake in it my mother's the other day with one of those. 1620 01:53:41.760 --> 01:53:42.900 18456426153: packets filled with. 1621 01:53:42.900 --> 01:53:43.950 18456426153: Whatever it's filled with. 1622 01:53:43.980 --> 01:53:45.120 lauriedodge: to determine here. 1623 01:53:45.420 --> 01:53:54.360 lauriedodge: And I had said to her, I think i'm just gonna have to put it on the plant, because the ground has to be frozen and mike's right it's not I mean, I think it probably is in some places, but where I was. 1624 01:53:54.360 --> 01:53:55.500 lauriedodge: Putting it for her it was an. 1625 01:53:55.500 --> 01:53:55.920 either. 1626 01:53:57.090 --> 01:53:58.380 Karen Tarapata: No it's it's been pretty much. 1627 01:53:58.860 --> 01:53:59.220 lauriedodge: yeah. 1628 01:53:59.280 --> 01:54:07.350 Karen Tarapata: And then the very last thing on my list tonight in fact Noel I was gonna say we can free you up because we've finished all our legal issues for today. 1629 01:54:08.040 --> 01:54:08.880 Karen Tarapata: Thank you so much. 1630 01:54:09.030 --> 01:54:09.840 Karen Tarapata: for coming to me. 1631 01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:12.870 Ken Rothchild: But I actually. 1632 01:54:13.140 --> 01:54:14.430 Ken Rothchild: I do have a question. 1633 01:54:14.670 --> 01:54:15.360 About sort of. 1634 01:54:16.380 --> 01:54:17.730 Ken Rothchild: jurisdiction to. 1635 01:54:17.760 --> 01:54:19.230 Ken Rothchild: jurisdiction and are. 1636 01:54:19.770 --> 01:54:21.600 Ken Rothchild: The questions and. 1637 01:54:21.660 --> 01:54:29.100 Ken Rothchild: And it might be useful to have no well weigh in on what you know it was permissible on our part in terms of all that. 1638 01:54:30.450 --> 01:54:32.130 Ken Rothchild: Do you want me to go ahead, so we can let her go. 1639 01:54:32.910 --> 01:54:33.330 Oh. 1640 01:54:34.440 --> 01:54:46.590 Karen Tarapata: No, I was gonna say I just want to mention one thing and then we can go into executive session if it's something that you think shouldn't be do you think it's something that we should be discussed in public or not public, but. 1641 01:54:47.550 --> 01:54:49.890 Ken Rothchild: To some extent it it's. 1642 01:54:52.470 --> 01:54:55.890 Ken Rothchild: I don't think it's I don't think it's a executive. 1643 01:54:55.920 --> 01:54:59.190 Ken Rothchild: session material because it's not about pending it's. 1644 01:54:59.280 --> 01:55:00.330 Ken Rothchild: it's not about pending. 1645 01:55:00.360 --> 01:55:01.950 Ken Rothchild: litigation it's not about. 1646 01:55:02.460 --> 01:55:03.720 Ken Rothchild: Everything like that so. 1647 01:55:05.460 --> 01:55:06.270 Karen Tarapata: we've got her here. 1648 01:55:06.360 --> 01:55:06.600 18456426153: This is. 1649 01:55:07.680 --> 01:55:08.370 18456426153: Great so. 1650 01:55:08.610 --> 01:55:10.890 Ken Rothchild: Did you want to do your thing first care your. 1651 01:55:12.120 --> 01:55:19.470 Karen Tarapata: it'd be real it's real simple, you know that big patch of Bamboo when you walk into the preserve on the South side of the driveway. 1652 01:55:19.710 --> 01:55:20.100 Karen Tarapata: yeah. 1653 01:55:20.250 --> 01:55:30.540 Karen Tarapata: i've now gotten two bids to have it removed because we have to do something with it or it's just going to run rampant they both are running around. 1654 01:55:30.840 --> 01:55:47.520 Karen Tarapata: 15,000 $16,000 because of prevailing wage so i'm going to try and get a third bid and also i'm going i'm talking with the landscape architect about what it would cost to put in a Bamboo barrier and just. 1655 01:55:47.520 --> 01:55:48.180 18456426153: contain it. 1656 01:55:48.960 --> 01:56:00.240 Karen Tarapata: If we can let's say contain it for $7,000 or remove it for 17 I would have to responsibly think just to contain it. 1657 01:56:02.730 --> 01:56:03.300 Karen Tarapata: What do you think. 1658 01:56:04.050 --> 01:56:05.850 michael esmay: You guys have images. 1659 01:56:06.750 --> 01:56:12.450 Karen Tarapata: I do i'll send you I have drone images it's a at by it's 50 by 80 feet. 1660 01:56:13.110 --> 01:56:13.770 Ken Rothchild: lot. 1661 01:56:14.100 --> 01:56:16.290 Ken Rothchild: Well that's huge big space. 1662 01:56:16.680 --> 01:56:17.880 Karen Tarapata: Oh it's going it's going. 1663 01:56:17.910 --> 01:56:18.660 18456426153: it's just. 1664 01:56:18.840 --> 01:56:20.340 Ken Rothchild: Going yeah, no, no. 1665 01:56:20.370 --> 01:56:24.990 Ken Rothchild: Bamboo Bamboo is is voracious that way it's terrible yeah. 1666 01:56:24.990 --> 01:56:26.070 lauriedodge: The deer don't eat it. 1667 01:56:26.520 --> 01:56:27.690 Karen Tarapata: yeah so we know. 1668 01:56:27.720 --> 01:56:29.130 michael esmay: Well, we could get panda's. 1669 01:56:29.670 --> 01:56:30.390 News yeah. 1670 01:56:31.560 --> 01:56:33.600 lauriedodge: yeah let's have it be the Panda. 1671 01:56:33.600 --> 01:56:34.050 farm. 1672 01:56:35.310 --> 01:56:37.530 Karen Tarapata: that's that's a revenue source what yeah. 1673 01:56:38.610 --> 01:56:38.910 michael esmay: yeah. 1674 01:56:40.350 --> 01:56:41.250 Ken Rothchild: And b's i'm. 1675 01:56:41.580 --> 01:56:42.390 Ken Rothchild: very excited. 1676 01:56:42.480 --> 01:56:45.000 michael esmay: I think canada's pandering to us. 1677 01:56:52.200 --> 01:56:55.260 sylviajeff: It is possible to like really stop Bamboo. 1678 01:56:56.130 --> 01:56:58.260 Karen Tarapata: It literally did. 1679 01:56:59.460 --> 01:57:01.260 Karen Tarapata: You put it in a truck and you take it. 1680 01:57:01.260 --> 01:57:01.590 lauriedodge: away. 1681 01:57:01.770 --> 01:57:03.150 lauriedodge: someplace else where they live. 1682 01:57:03.660 --> 01:57:08.640 Karen Tarapata: In and since we have those huge piles of dirt sitting there by the main house. 1683 01:57:09.330 --> 01:57:11.580 18456426153: We don't have to pay for dirt we've got dirt. 1684 01:57:12.000 --> 01:57:15.330 Karen Tarapata: it's just the cost of excavating it. 1685 01:57:16.620 --> 01:57:18.420 Karen Tarapata: And since i've got two. 1686 01:57:18.480 --> 01:57:21.210 Karen Tarapata: Two bids and they're very close in price, I know. 1687 01:57:21.210 --> 01:57:22.050 18456426153: it's not it's. 1688 01:57:22.110 --> 01:57:23.940 Karen Tarapata: What it is one of them is from. 1689 01:57:24.000 --> 01:57:26.400 Karen Tarapata: Bamboo Bob not in morristown. 1690 01:57:27.150 --> 01:57:28.170 Karen Tarapata: And that's. 1691 01:57:28.320 --> 01:57:29.430 18456426153: that's how he does. 1692 01:57:32.400 --> 01:57:36.300 Karen Tarapata: And the other one is from James nearly of bellville. 1693 01:57:38.400 --> 01:57:46.590 Ken Rothchild: think I may have purchase Bamboo from Bamboo Bob you know 40 years ago for a set design or something like that i'm. 1694 01:57:46.680 --> 01:57:48.690 Karen Tarapata: not sure why he sounds like. 1695 01:57:48.720 --> 01:57:49.260 He was selling. 1696 01:57:50.310 --> 01:57:52.650 Ken Rothchild: Do do, is it possible that. 1697 01:57:52.980 --> 01:57:53.940 18456426153: We could. 1698 01:57:54.840 --> 01:57:57.480 Ken Rothchild: rent excavation equipment and have. 1699 01:57:57.540 --> 01:57:58.440 18456426153: Our guys. 1700 01:57:58.710 --> 01:58:00.450 Ken Rothchild: You know, you know how they love machinery. 1701 01:58:00.660 --> 01:58:14.520 Karen Tarapata: So right but they don't I don't think they do excavation also the fact that maybe they could i'm not sure I don't know we'd have that would mean that they wouldn't be able to do any other village work for those days. 1702 01:58:16.230 --> 01:58:17.970 Karen Tarapata: I don't want me to ask i'll ask them. 1703 01:58:19.680 --> 01:58:21.870 michael esmay: silly billy could use this new tool. 1704 01:58:25.500 --> 01:58:25.740 Karen Tarapata: i've. 1705 01:58:25.890 --> 01:58:26.910 18456426153: asked the guys. 1706 01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:27.930 Karen Tarapata: that's an excellent. 1707 01:58:29.460 --> 01:58:35.340 Karen Tarapata: I just don't think I just don't think that they're as skilled as hiring somebody like when I was watching. 1708 01:58:35.370 --> 01:58:36.780 Karen Tarapata: The guy from P Ross. 1709 01:58:37.080 --> 01:58:43.920 Karen Tarapata: Ross brothers was watching the guys roscoe this excavating that the circle by the main door of the. 1710 01:58:44.130 --> 01:58:44.940 18456426153: Hearing house. 1711 01:58:45.780 --> 01:58:46.230 Karen Tarapata: He was. 1712 01:58:46.260 --> 01:58:53.190 Karen Tarapata: Just so good, I know they could get it all delicately along the driveway without damaging it. 1713 01:58:55.440 --> 01:58:55.770 18456426153: yeah. 1714 01:58:55.800 --> 01:59:05.400 Ken Rothchild: I mean it's it's probably a delicate thing in in some respects and but yeah I mean it's just taking it up, but I don't know how deep, you have to go and stuff like that. 1715 01:59:06.240 --> 01:59:06.840 michael esmay: And whatnot. 1716 01:59:07.410 --> 01:59:09.360 Karen Tarapata: Now is of it is disposing of it. 1717 01:59:10.110 --> 01:59:17.220 michael esmay: i'm wondering if we could, if we could get fans will Bob on to Ellen and then St. 1718 01:59:21.360 --> 01:59:22.740 Karen Tarapata: he'll definitely count but. 1719 01:59:23.100 --> 01:59:30.720 Karen Tarapata: No, I was just saying, because it's a lot of money, so I just wanted to bring it up, I really think it needs to be addressed in one way or another, I. 1720 01:59:30.720 --> 01:59:31.830 18456426153: just wanted to start. 1721 01:59:31.830 --> 01:59:32.880 Karen Tarapata: Discussing the price. 1722 01:59:33.630 --> 01:59:35.310 michael esmay: When it goes it goes. 1723 01:59:35.760 --> 01:59:36.630 Ken Rothchild: it's got to be taken. 1724 01:59:38.130 --> 01:59:41.100 Karen Tarapata: To $20,000 ends up being the way we go with this we. 1725 01:59:41.100 --> 01:59:42.240 Karen Tarapata: just get rid of it. 1726 01:59:43.140 --> 01:59:44.820 Karen Tarapata: But let me find out what containing. 1727 01:59:44.850 --> 01:59:52.260 Ken Rothchild: containing it would be let's yeah let's explore the various cost options and see what it entails because yeah that's a good idea. 1728 01:59:53.340 --> 01:59:54.360 Karen Tarapata: Because it's a lot of money. 1729 01:59:54.720 --> 02:00:01.410 Karen Tarapata: yeah and I rather do something more fun for the villager with that money, but this it's important we have to. 1730 02:00:01.770 --> 02:00:03.780 18456426153: We have to get this stuff out of there yeah. 1731 02:00:04.770 --> 02:00:07.710 Karen Tarapata: Okay, go ahead and ask your question can. 1732 02:00:07.860 --> 02:00:08.160 Ken Rothchild: Still. 1733 02:00:08.250 --> 02:00:09.930 Ken Rothchild: So the question is as. 1734 02:00:10.020 --> 02:00:10.830 18456426153: As Mike. 1735 02:00:10.890 --> 02:00:12.690 Ken Rothchild: knows is. 1736 02:00:12.750 --> 02:00:13.140 18456426153: That. 1737 02:00:14.040 --> 02:00:31.500 Ken Rothchild: The shipyard is building a large Doc like structure in the boat base in there, they move the other boats out so you know the the questions question I have is what are avenues of inquiry as to what they're doing like. 1738 02:00:33.840 --> 02:00:35.250 Ken Rothchild: The you know, the question is. 1739 02:00:35.550 --> 02:00:40.410 Ken Rothchild: You know if they're building for somewhere else on the River for someone else in planet floating it there, then you know. 1740 02:00:40.650 --> 02:00:46.650 Ken Rothchild: that's probably an as of right use if they're planning on building and then. 1741 02:00:47.370 --> 02:00:49.590 18456426153: Pending it to their property. 1742 02:00:50.220 --> 02:01:03.720 Ken Rothchild: Then, my very in expert search, you know quick search the question to the ddc says they're required to have a permit from the DC for structure that seems to be that extensive. 1743 02:01:04.890 --> 02:01:14.910 Ken Rothchild: And so, are we then if that's if it's for their personal use are we able to inquire as to whether they've obtained a DC permit to do that sort of thing. 1744 02:01:16.020 --> 02:01:21.060 Ken Rothchild: Or do we have to sort of find that out ourselves through a foil action or you know it's our. 1745 02:01:21.120 --> 02:01:30.210 Ken Rothchild: Building inspector permitted to go down there inquire as to the nature of what's going on, I i'm not sure what our rights are since we seem to have. 1746 02:01:30.990 --> 02:01:37.770 Ken Rothchild: No rights about anything that they claim is floating you know what rights do we have to ask them about their activities and things that are flooding. 1747 02:01:38.850 --> 02:01:42.990 Noelle Wolfson: You can certainly go and ask whether you can compel them to tell you. 1748 02:01:43.110 --> 02:01:44.130 Noelle Wolfson: outside of any kind of. 1749 02:01:44.130 --> 02:01:47.490 Noelle Wolfson: Specific permitting process I don't know the answer to offhand. 1750 02:01:48.390 --> 02:01:50.520 Noelle Wolfson: The more efficient way to see if there any. 1751 02:01:50.550 --> 02:01:51.990 Noelle Wolfson: Pending permits maybe. 1752 02:01:52.110 --> 02:01:54.270 18456426153: A call or oil to the DC. 1753 02:01:55.500 --> 02:01:57.450 michael esmay: But they haven't committed the crime yeah. 1754 02:01:59.730 --> 02:02:05.790 michael esmay: that's the that's the whole thing you can say oh whoa he, why did jurist of Well he didn't commit the crime. 1755 02:02:06.030 --> 02:02:09.090 michael esmay: Well i'm almost sure it's it's a job. 1756 02:02:10.350 --> 02:02:18.150 michael esmay: Would you know that start that little house or that building that he's building now and that one that's for a. 1757 02:02:18.240 --> 02:02:19.710 18456426153: Probably a fairy station or. 1758 02:02:19.710 --> 02:02:22.080 michael esmay: Something like that that would be my guess. 1759 02:02:23.460 --> 02:02:31.440 michael esmay: It and he said Oh well, no it's actually got the the the wire, I thought the tubing and wiring in for. 1760 02:02:32.850 --> 02:02:37.260 michael esmay: You know the standard ones that are next to a boat that you can plug in. 1761 02:02:38.040 --> 02:02:39.750 michael esmay: Those are those are going to go in so. 1762 02:02:39.810 --> 02:02:40.560 18456426153: it's probably. 1763 02:02:40.770 --> 02:02:41.970 michael esmay: Probably for a big fancy. 1764 02:02:41.970 --> 02:02:42.630 michael esmay: Marina. 1765 02:02:43.200 --> 02:02:45.060 18456426153: we're likely to. 1766 02:02:45.090 --> 02:02:45.480 Ken Rothchild: Do we. 1767 02:02:45.510 --> 02:02:46.650 michael esmay: I don't think it's for him. 1768 02:02:46.980 --> 02:02:54.600 Ken Rothchild: Okay, all right right, I mean I I I speculate that it could be bunches of things, some of which, as I said, our. 1769 02:02:54.600 --> 02:02:56.130 Ken Rothchild: By right, you know he's permitted. 1770 02:02:56.130 --> 02:02:57.540 Ken Rothchild: To build things there and. 1771 02:02:57.810 --> 02:03:07.440 Ken Rothchild: shut them off somewhere else and and and, as you say that's not a crime because that's something that we actually expected him to do as opposed to washing gigantic boats so. 1772 02:03:09.660 --> 02:03:12.990 Ken Rothchild: Do we have anybody who's friendly enough with him, these days, to ask. 1773 02:03:15.450 --> 02:03:16.170 Ken Rothchild: i'm not sure I. 1774 02:03:16.530 --> 02:03:17.460 Ken Rothchild: Remember it that way. 1775 02:03:19.980 --> 02:03:21.930 michael esmay: well know what my concern is. 1776 02:03:25.860 --> 02:03:27.510 Karen Tarapata: Oh, you concerned about the crane. 1777 02:03:27.780 --> 02:03:30.150 Karen Tarapata: The crane yeah the crane. 1778 02:03:30.600 --> 02:03:30.990 michael esmay: Well yeah. 1779 02:03:31.920 --> 02:03:46.860 Karen Tarapata: But that's all to me that's all part of what happens when everybody comes in for their brand spanking new special permits later this year, but in terms of what he's building right now I don't know what are. 1780 02:03:48.420 --> 02:03:50.250 Karen Tarapata: What are recourses it's a. 1781 02:03:50.250 --> 02:03:51.030 business. 1782 02:03:52.470 --> 02:03:52.740 18456426153: thing. 1783 02:03:53.190 --> 02:03:59.280 Ken Rothchild: i'm not proposed again i'm not proposing a recourse i'm proposing i'm just asking. 1784 02:04:00.390 --> 02:04:08.220 Ken Rothchild: finding out what it's about you know if if you know, a month and a half from now we watch it sail away. 1785 02:04:08.430 --> 02:04:09.690 18456426153: With a couple of tugs to. 1786 02:04:09.690 --> 02:04:12.360 Ken Rothchild: someplace else on the Hudson river will say oh. 1787 02:04:12.510 --> 02:04:13.890 Ken Rothchild: I guess it's going somewhere else. 1788 02:04:14.310 --> 02:04:31.170 Ken Rothchild: If all of a sudden it ends up as an extension of his current docs than than one would say I that's extensive enough structure, according to our reading of DC regulations, you need to have a permit do you and you know, we would ask that we'd foil it from the DC and. 1789 02:04:31.800 --> 02:04:33.330 Ken Rothchild: Report on my gas or asked a. 1790 02:04:33.330 --> 02:04:41.160 Ken Rothchild: DC and recorded, so I guess maybe I could think to do is since i'm not alone in thinking there might be a legitimate. 1791 02:04:43.830 --> 02:04:47.490 Ken Rothchild: of activity there that we just wait and see what happens to it when he's done with it. 1792 02:04:47.490 --> 02:04:48.330 18456426153: Whatever that is. 1793 02:04:49.440 --> 02:04:49.890 18456426153: yeah. 1794 02:04:50.940 --> 02:04:55.470 Ken Rothchild: Okay that's see it's a question not only legally no. 1795 02:04:56.310 --> 02:04:58.680 Karen Tarapata: I don't know yeah it's it's so difficult. 1796 02:04:58.740 --> 02:05:01.230 18456426153: it's so difficult with the jurisdiction of. 1797 02:05:01.230 --> 02:05:01.440 18456426153: The. 1798 02:05:02.070 --> 02:05:03.960 Karen Tarapata: With the little longer than what's on the land. 1799 02:05:04.410 --> 02:05:07.260 Karen Tarapata: I think that's when we were talking earlier about our local. 1800 02:05:07.260 --> 02:05:09.240 Karen Tarapata: waterfront revitalization plan. 1801 02:05:09.930 --> 02:05:10.860 Karen Tarapata: Once we get. 1802 02:05:10.950 --> 02:05:12.000 18456426153: That in place, we will. 1803 02:05:12.000 --> 02:05:14.130 Karen Tarapata: be able to regulate things that. 1804 02:05:14.130 --> 02:05:35.490 Karen Tarapata: Are loading our sure all the way up and down oh that's so I said it's not just one thing it's all the way down to nyack and all the way up to the park I think it's that's going to be a very important process that we take on once we get once we've chewed everything on our plates. 1805 02:05:35.670 --> 02:05:41.280 michael esmay: What, what are the interesting questions there's to the jurisdiction go into the state park. 1806 02:05:45.600 --> 02:05:46.260 Karen Tarapata: From the water. 1807 02:05:46.500 --> 02:05:47.880 Noelle Wolfson: side of it, not the land. 1808 02:05:48.720 --> 02:05:49.230 michael esmay: The water. 1809 02:05:49.980 --> 02:05:54.390 Karen Tarapata: there's a lot of private I don't know I don't I don't know. 1810 02:05:56.010 --> 02:05:56.190 Because. 1811 02:05:57.480 --> 02:05:59.250 michael esmay: we've got like four or five miles of. 1812 02:05:59.250 --> 02:05:59.880 18456426153: waterfront. 1813 02:06:00.060 --> 02:06:00.840 18456426153: If you can't the. 1814 02:06:01.710 --> 02:06:04.080 michael esmay: Word goes into the park. 1815 02:06:06.990 --> 02:06:07.410 18456426153: well. 1816 02:06:07.470 --> 02:06:11.010 Karen Tarapata: We could shoot for it and see what the what they say when you send the. 1817 02:06:11.970 --> 02:06:12.210 18456426153: name. 1818 02:06:12.510 --> 02:06:16.110 Karen Tarapata: Because it is you work with the state on these things you know. 1819 02:06:21.300 --> 02:06:26.910 Karen Tarapata: All right, everybody it's almost nine o'clock I can't believe we got through all of that into. 1820 02:06:26.910 --> 02:06:27.540 Ken Rothchild: ours. 1821 02:06:27.930 --> 02:06:31.260 Ken Rothchild: is always gonna be here for hours so Kathy. 1822 02:06:31.800 --> 02:06:32.550 michael esmay: were to. 1823 02:06:34.140 --> 02:06:36.390 michael esmay: motion that close the meeting. 1824 02:06:37.740 --> 02:06:40.380 Karen Tarapata: Thank you all so much who seconds that. 1825 02:06:41.100 --> 02:06:42.210 sylviajeff: Jeff will second that. 1826 02:06:42.900 --> 02:06:44.730 Karen Tarapata: All right, all in favor say Aye. 1827 02:06:45.180 --> 02:06:46.020 lauriedodge: Aye laurie. 1828 02:06:50.010 --> 02:06:50.850 Ken Rothchild: Can I. 1829 02:06:54.150 --> 02:06:54.600 Karen Tarapata: Like. 1830 02:06:55.770 --> 02:06:56.340 michael esmay: I said hi. 1831 02:06:59.190 --> 02:07:00.720 Karen Tarapata: All right, good night everybody thank. 1832 02:07:00.720 --> 02:07:00.870 You. 1833 02:07:03.390 --> 02:07:05.460 18456426153: Thanks to all night. 1834 02:07:06.480 --> 02:07:07.260 Karen Tarapata: And I Carol.