WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.589 --> 00:00:17.670 Karen Tarapata: Good evening, this is the village of upper night Board of Trustees regular meeting of April 15 2021 7pm and we are just waiting for a few more. 2 00:00:17.670 --> 00:00:18.900 18456426153: People to join us. 3 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:22.170 Karen Tarapata: And we will be starting the meeting. 4 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:27.540 18456426153: I do see my classmate here now. 5 00:00:27.540 --> 00:00:28.230 Karen Tarapata: Hello Mike. 6 00:00:28.830 --> 00:00:29.340 Hello. 7 00:00:30.540 --> 00:00:30.810 18456426153: Oh. 8 00:00:30.840 --> 00:00:32.280 Karen Tarapata: just waiting for Canada. 9 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:32.580 and 10 00:00:36.660 --> 00:00:37.710 Karen Tarapata: Then we'll begin. 11 00:00:55.980 --> 00:01:00.510 Karen Tarapata: do have a quorum and we do have a lot of things down it out is. 12 00:01:00.630 --> 00:01:01.650 18456426153: officer. 13 00:01:02.310 --> 00:01:03.240 Davies here. 14 00:01:04.740 --> 00:01:05.430 Call-In User_1: Yes, I am. 15 00:01:06.510 --> 00:01:08.220 Call-In User_1: Right okay just checking see the. 16 00:01:08.220 --> 00:01:09.240 Karen Tarapata: wall is here. 17 00:01:10.530 --> 00:01:11.790 Karen Tarapata: Can is a banana see. 18 00:01:13.110 --> 00:01:13.710 Laurie Dodge: Sam. 19 00:01:14.370 --> 00:01:16.350 Karen Tarapata: Okay, well, we do have. 20 00:01:18.300 --> 00:01:31.470 Karen Tarapata: We have Michael s may lori dodge Jeff Epstein and myself Karen Tara pata so we do have a quorum can rough try i'm sure will join us soon, so we can begin the meeting with the a. 21 00:01:32.910 --> 00:01:39.060 Karen Tarapata: By accepting the Minutes regular minutes of the meeting of March 18 2021. 22 00:01:40.290 --> 00:01:43.380 Karen Tarapata: Have you read and review the Minutes. 23 00:01:44.220 --> 00:01:55.650 Laurie Dodge: yeah this is lori Karen there are there are no material changes, other than ken's name is spelled incorrectly several times there's an s i'm happy to give this to heather. 24 00:01:56.940 --> 00:02:05.370 Laurie Dodge: And then some other formatting changes like periods camp Rama spelled incorrectly some things like that, so I mean I don't know I don't like. 25 00:02:05.730 --> 00:02:06.930 18456426153: Everyone wants me to read through. 26 00:02:06.930 --> 00:02:07.740 18456426153: All about. 27 00:02:11.130 --> 00:02:12.660 michael esmay: Karen there was also. 28 00:02:13.620 --> 00:02:17.580 michael esmay: In two of them resolutions it's down that. 29 00:02:18.150 --> 00:02:20.490 michael esmay: And one of them myself and Ken. 30 00:02:20.910 --> 00:02:27.240 michael esmay: abstained, and the other one Jeff abstained, and I don't think that happened. 31 00:02:30.390 --> 00:02:33.450 Karen Tarapata: Welcome February 18 regular. 32 00:02:33.600 --> 00:02:34.170 minutes. 33 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:36.900 michael esmay: i'm sorry. 34 00:02:37.020 --> 00:02:37.980 michael esmay: When you said, the agent. 35 00:02:39.270 --> 00:02:40.290 sylviajeff: More treaties. 36 00:02:40.500 --> 00:02:41.190 18456426153: march 18th. 37 00:02:41.310 --> 00:02:42.660 18456426153: yeah yeah. 38 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:54.420 sylviajeff: You know it's funny you should mention that because I was wondering about myself and I went to go back to see the video of it, but I couldn't find the video online so i'm really not sure. 39 00:02:55.110 --> 00:02:58.500 Karen Tarapata: Oh i'm very we have moved the videos. 40 00:02:58.770 --> 00:03:02.220 Karen Tarapata: To be the agendas and minutes so. 41 00:03:02.220 --> 00:03:13.710 Karen Tarapata: If you go to the board of trustees there's a section that says agendas minutes and the videos are attached there because, having them on the front page of the. 42 00:03:13.740 --> 00:03:15.540 Karen Tarapata: website was getting so long. 43 00:03:16.020 --> 00:03:16.470 sylviajeff: You know. 44 00:03:16.590 --> 00:03:18.750 sylviajeff: Believe it or not, I don't think it's on there anyway. 45 00:03:18.780 --> 00:03:21.780 sylviajeff: Because I went through the whole thing, so we should double check that. 46 00:03:22.620 --> 00:03:22.980 They were. 47 00:03:25.650 --> 00:03:27.450 Karen Tarapata: Looking for them, which meeting. 48 00:03:28.650 --> 00:03:31.170 sylviajeff: This was march 18 OK. 49 00:03:32.940 --> 00:03:35.970 Karen Tarapata: I will, we will do that tomorrow heather and I will check that. 50 00:03:37.680 --> 00:03:42.540 18456426153: Tomorrow march eight kids will be on the minute won't be online, yet you mean February. 51 00:03:43.200 --> 00:03:46.110 Karen Tarapata: Oh, because it hasn't been in a. 52 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:49.590 18456426153: Video. 53 00:03:49.650 --> 00:03:50.280 Karen Tarapata: we're talking about. 54 00:03:51.750 --> 00:03:52.050 sylviajeff: But. 55 00:03:52.110 --> 00:03:55.890 sylviajeff: I had a question and I think Mike may have also about the Minutes. 56 00:03:55.950 --> 00:03:58.890 sylviajeff: What a draft of the Minutes, you know, and I went. 57 00:03:58.920 --> 00:04:00.450 sylviajeff: I went to go online to see it. 58 00:04:01.920 --> 00:04:03.930 sylviajeff: wasn't available yet I guess so. 59 00:04:04.260 --> 00:04:09.510 Karen Tarapata: No perhaps if there's a question why don't we hold off on adopting us minutes we'll do it at our. 60 00:04:09.510 --> 00:04:10.170 18456426153: next meeting. 61 00:04:11.220 --> 00:04:12.570 Karen Tarapata: So let's hold you up for you. 62 00:04:14.370 --> 00:04:26.970 18456426153: Jeff talking i'm just trying to clarify, because the data is the teeth and both months are you talking about finding a video for the for the February 13 or the march 18th minutes. 63 00:04:28.230 --> 00:04:29.160 On march 18. 64 00:04:30.690 --> 00:04:30.990 Okay. 65 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:41.940 Karen Tarapata: Okay, well, if you have a question about the Minutes, we can always delay adopting the minutes of the regular meeting of March 18. 66 00:04:43.410 --> 00:04:44.700 18456426153: My concern was only the. 67 00:04:44.700 --> 00:04:45.960 michael esmay: march 18 meeting. 68 00:04:47.460 --> 00:04:49.710 michael esmay: The other two, I have no problems with. 69 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:54.240 Karen Tarapata: right but i'm saying yeah Hello can. 70 00:04:54.270 --> 00:04:54.450 You. 71 00:04:55.590 --> 00:04:56.190 Karen Tarapata: yeah. 72 00:04:56.400 --> 00:04:57.930 Kennon Rothchild: I have no idea what's going on. 73 00:04:59.220 --> 00:04:59.580 Kennon Rothchild: So. 74 00:04:59.820 --> 00:05:02.970 Kennon Rothchild: If we are actually talking about meeting minutes of. 75 00:05:03.150 --> 00:05:04.050 Kennon Rothchild: previous meetings. 76 00:05:04.080 --> 00:05:04.590 Then. 77 00:05:06.210 --> 00:05:14.340 Kennon Rothchild: The very modest correction I would want the village court to look at is that my last name is misspelled in numerous places. 78 00:05:15.690 --> 00:05:21.750 Karen Tarapata: yeah I point that out yeah she so that's already been amended that that's a we apologize for that. 79 00:05:22.080 --> 00:05:24.210 Kennon Rothchild: I don't I don't care, except. 80 00:05:24.300 --> 00:05:25.800 Kennon Rothchild: Just for accuracy sake. 81 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:27.060 18456426153: let's get the last thing. 82 00:05:28.620 --> 00:05:31.200 Karen Tarapata: You will miss spell my name all the time, but it's Nice. 83 00:05:32.130 --> 00:05:39.810 Kennon Rothchild: By the way, I want to, I want to find out is the crashing to remove the S, which is cracked or two. 84 00:05:43.200 --> 00:05:45.930 Karen Tarapata: We can only imagine the Minutes, we can amend your name. 85 00:05:47.580 --> 00:05:49.230 Kennon Rothchild: But I i'm not sure which. 86 00:05:49.380 --> 00:05:53.340 Kennon Rothchild: error they're thinking of that they should be adding the SN or taking it out. 87 00:05:55.470 --> 00:05:56.010 Karen Tarapata: we're going to. 88 00:05:57.990 --> 00:05:58.860 18456426153: Take the US out. 89 00:05:58.980 --> 00:05:59.310 Thank you. 90 00:06:02.160 --> 00:06:09.750 Karen Tarapata: But I would say, for the minutes of March 18 because there was a question where it appears that. 91 00:06:11.040 --> 00:06:20.580 Karen Tarapata: Mike and Ken abstained from adopting the minutes of February 18 are you sure you Mike were you at the meeting in February. 92 00:06:20.580 --> 00:06:21.900 michael esmay: 18 three you say. 93 00:06:22.260 --> 00:06:23.820 i've been at all these meetings. 94 00:06:25.170 --> 00:06:26.640 Karen Tarapata: So let's wait and we'll check. 95 00:06:27.150 --> 00:06:32.280 Karen Tarapata: That will check the tape and will will will do that instead alright. 96 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:48.780 Karen Tarapata: So, now that everyone's here i'm going to wait and have adopt another two local except the other minutes at the end of the meeting because right now I would like to get the police report and the treasurer's report before we have our first public hearings so officer Davies. 97 00:06:48.930 --> 00:06:59.250 Call-In User_1: Would you give us the police report, I would absolutely love to Niall savings from the cornerstone police department and I have a search and birth from a special operations he's with me also. 98 00:07:00.690 --> 00:07:12.840 Call-In User_1: So from the last meeting until today, there was a one car accident in the village, and that was on glenbrook and North Highland and that was a core versus a deer. 99 00:07:13.770 --> 00:07:27.660 Call-In User_1: Our officers continue to do area checks in various places in the village, including school checks they're required to do a school check every day, as well as doing a cultural and religious checks of the. 100 00:07:28.740 --> 00:07:41.880 Call-In User_1: Two synagogues in the village, I think that that would know stolen vehicles reported, there were two fraud or scan that occurred in the village. 101 00:07:43.020 --> 00:07:56.910 Call-In User_1: Both of them were the unemployment scams and basically somebody gets a letter in the mail telling them that somebody has filed for unemployment in their name we've been having a very large. 102 00:07:58.050 --> 00:08:14.070 Call-In User_1: problem with that, basically, that people have to report it to their personnel department and then report it to the State to put a stop, for that there's also in the town, this is not for it overnight, but in the town, we had a large number of. 103 00:08:28.410 --> 00:08:28.680 Call-In User_1: yeah. 104 00:08:33.540 --> 00:08:35.100 Karen Tarapata: Just one moment if you're not. 105 00:08:35.820 --> 00:08:36.180 Call-In User_1: sure. 106 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:37.410 Call-In User_1: What everyone, please. 107 00:08:37.410 --> 00:08:38.280 Karen Tarapata: mute their. 108 00:08:40.830 --> 00:08:41.730 Karen Tarapata: microphones. 109 00:08:48.810 --> 00:08:49.980 Karen Tarapata: That is somebody. 110 00:08:50.730 --> 00:08:54.420 Jillana Sinnott: microphone Aaron you should be able to mute them if you grew up in the corner. 111 00:08:54.510 --> 00:08:57.600 Karen Tarapata: Of that call, I know I have a hard time going back and forth. 112 00:08:58.620 --> 00:09:00.690 Karen Tarapata: With themselves because i'm also running. 113 00:09:02.730 --> 00:09:05.220 Karen Tarapata: Thank you Jill okay go ahead, please. 114 00:09:05.790 --> 00:09:14.550 Call-In User_1: Sure, so I just want to make everybody aware that there was a number of scams that occurred in the town, but some of these included on. 115 00:09:15.090 --> 00:09:24.120 Call-In User_1: Online either using a Facebook or instagram telling people that they were eligible for payroll payroll grants. 116 00:09:24.720 --> 00:09:34.800 Call-In User_1: But in order to get the payroll grant they had to send a you know, sometimes up to $2,000 using gift cards so we just want to make sure that people are aware that. 117 00:09:35.400 --> 00:09:53.580 Call-In User_1: We also had a grandparent scam so basically somebody calls a grandparent saying that their grandchild that they're under arrest for some type of dwi that they're in jail and that they need bail money. 118 00:09:54.870 --> 00:10:07.080 Call-In User_1: This unfortunate person he he was or he sent $150,000 in gift cards to this person and even when. 119 00:10:07.830 --> 00:10:15.990 Call-In User_1: A detective from Connecticut tried to contact him just to tell them to stop doing it, he didn't believe in, we had we had to send somebody to his house. 120 00:10:16.650 --> 00:10:27.030 Call-In User_1: to convince him to stop sending the money and the call is great grandson was $150,000 was the worst also we've been having a problem with own are scams. 121 00:10:27.510 --> 00:10:47.340 Call-In User_1: Somebody calls and says that they're from, or that the person hasn't paid their bill, and in order to rectify the situation they have to go and get sometimes 500 sometimes $1,000 in gift cards and send it in to stop the owner from turning off the their power. 122 00:10:50.280 --> 00:10:51.660 Call-In User_1: I think anytime that. 123 00:10:52.050 --> 00:10:56.610 Karen Tarapata: Someone has asked to pay a bill with a gift card, they should know it's a fraud and calling the media. 124 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:04.830 Call-In User_1: I agree, but you'd be amazed, how many times people just do it, and then they think that something's wrong and they call us. 125 00:11:05.280 --> 00:11:12.960 Call-In User_1: And the gift cards or not we you know once once you give them the not the numbers, they can they can cash it and you've lost that money. 126 00:11:13.650 --> 00:11:27.420 Call-In User_1: we've also in neighboring departments have had problems with fake utility workers come into the House and saying they're either from or or the water company they gain the person's trust. 127 00:11:28.020 --> 00:11:38.430 Call-In User_1: And usually it's two people one person distracts the homeowner and, while the other person goes and ransack the House looking for jewelry or money or something like that. 128 00:11:41.100 --> 00:11:41.520 Call-In User_1: isn't it. 129 00:11:41.850 --> 00:11:43.020 Karen Tarapata: That seems to have every. 130 00:11:44.310 --> 00:11:50.610 Call-In User_1: Yes, yep so we just want to make sure that you know the residents know about that, just to be careful and certainly you can. 131 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:59.190 Call-In User_1: You can call us and we'll come down, and we can verify that the person is in fact from one of the utility companies, well, we wrote our officers wrote. 132 00:11:59.850 --> 00:12:07.560 Call-In User_1: A uniform traffic tickets over the since the last meeting, I think that there's more because I spoke to the. 133 00:12:08.070 --> 00:12:22.890 Call-In User_1: The records clerk who does the tickets and she's she's behind and inputting the tickets, also to parking tickets were written and a pretty good number of warnings were also issued by, thank God, there were no. 134 00:12:24.930 --> 00:12:26.760 Call-In User_1: robberies that occurred. 135 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:30.240 Call-In User_1: You know I think I forgot to talk about the larcenies. 136 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:41.520 Call-In User_1: We had a from a business on North Highland avenue somebody allegedly stole a license plate off of the one of the vehicles there. 137 00:12:43.110 --> 00:12:53.880 Call-In User_1: were no other steps from vehicles that occurred in the village, but we did have a number in the town where people were walking around at night looking for unmarked cars. 138 00:12:54.360 --> 00:13:06.570 Call-In User_1: And going into the car and you know, whatever they can steal from the from inside the car they do the cooking oil sets that i've spoken to you guys that has been still continuing. 139 00:13:08.880 --> 00:13:21.480 Call-In User_1: Most most to think I know stolen vehicles, as I said, no robberies in terms of the drug related issues countywide year to date there's been 112 overdoses. 140 00:13:22.110 --> 00:13:34.380 Call-In User_1: which resulted in nine people nine deaths and 93 people surviving in aquatics down we've had 36 overdoses year to date, resulting in five deaths. 141 00:13:34.920 --> 00:13:42.600 Call-In User_1: And 31 survived i've in the last couple weeks i've gone on on one where we had the narcan the. 142 00:13:43.230 --> 00:13:57.480 Call-In User_1: person three times we did it twice and then the paramedics had to do it, a third time and, basically, the reason is, is that there's fentanyl in the heroin so that's that's a pretty big pretty big issue. 143 00:13:59.220 --> 00:14:12.510 Call-In User_1: Also, I spoke to the Mayor a couple days ago about trucks, making the term from nine w on to old mountain road to go down to the village i've made the. 144 00:14:13.230 --> 00:14:24.030 Call-In User_1: Officers that patrol that area aware of it, and actually I have sergeant first you're sitting next to me he's just going to address in terms of manpower, a little bit. 145 00:14:26.490 --> 00:14:36.210 Call-In User_1: Good evening everybody thanks for having us like also data said he made me aware of the some of the concerns about potentially like local commercial vehicles coming through the village. 146 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:42.690 Call-In User_1: I have made our traffic officers aware to maybe a little extra attention down there. 147 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:57.900 Call-In User_1: The only concern that we have, without having done any enforcement is that if those trucks are making local deliveries to actually allow it to be there, so whether it's an industrial delivery or commercial delivery that would make them okay be there, correct. 148 00:14:58.110 --> 00:14:59.430 Karen Tarapata: The problem we have is. 149 00:14:59.460 --> 00:15:05.880 Karen Tarapata: With tractor trailers that are not making deliveries and they're coming down well mountain road. 150 00:15:05.970 --> 00:15:13.950 Karen Tarapata: Six is the lower particle not road between Midland and broadway and the road is not designed for a truck of that link. 151 00:15:14.370 --> 00:15:33.540 Karen Tarapata: We haven't we haven't posted both up at nine w and just below Midland local delivery only but though that is not the case, because the the people who make the local deliveries typically know and they come down Castle heights because it's a wider street it's really the truck drivers. 152 00:15:33.870 --> 00:15:36.600 Karen Tarapata: who are using Google maps. 153 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:46.920 Karen Tarapata: Just the one that's made for passenger cars and we've tried reporting the fact that we are not truck to Google maps, but it has not seemed to make much of a difference. 154 00:15:49.350 --> 00:15:49.950 Call-In User_1: today. 155 00:15:49.980 --> 00:16:01.320 Laurie Dodge: This is lori dodge and I live on North broadway south of the point karen's talking about there were three trucks today and we've followed them periodically to see what their where they go. 156 00:16:01.680 --> 00:16:02.010 Laurie Dodge: And they. 157 00:16:02.070 --> 00:16:03.300 Laurie Dodge: go through nyack. 158 00:16:03.630 --> 00:16:17.700 Laurie Dodge: They go all the way to the end of broadway and not that very odd intersection of broadway and nine w past South nyack is where they reenter nine w and it seems to have something to do with the new bridge. 159 00:16:17.760 --> 00:16:20.370 Laurie Dodge: interchange I don't know exactly. 160 00:16:20.370 --> 00:16:20.910 Call-In User_1: What but. 161 00:16:20.940 --> 00:16:30.030 Laurie Dodge: they're they're not getting the message and it keeps it happens, it happens all times of the day and they're they're absolutely are not making local deliveries. 162 00:16:30.330 --> 00:16:32.160 Call-In User_1: Okay, absolutely. 163 00:16:33.510 --> 00:16:42.090 Call-In User_1: No problems alpha alpha shirt and i'll let our commercial vehicle officers know about that and having pay special attention to that location, thank you very much. 164 00:16:42.780 --> 00:16:43.200 Karen Tarapata: No problem. 165 00:16:44.490 --> 00:16:47.850 Call-In User_1: Did did you guys have any other concerns no. 166 00:16:49.380 --> 00:16:50.790 Karen Tarapata: No parking signs. 167 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:52.620 Call-In User_1: alexa and locust we're. 168 00:16:52.620 --> 00:16:53.850 Call-In User_1: going to leave them where they are. 169 00:16:53.880 --> 00:16:54.900 Call-In User_1: For the next month right. 170 00:16:55.380 --> 00:16:56.250 Call-In User_1: Now, which. 171 00:16:56.430 --> 00:16:58.800 Karen Tarapata: side on Lucas next month we'll talk about that. 172 00:17:00.150 --> 00:17:03.540 sylviajeff: I believe that on what's out there on both sides of the street. 173 00:17:04.110 --> 00:17:06.270 Karen Tarapata: Yes, well, but on the lower part of the street, but. 174 00:17:06.270 --> 00:17:14.340 Karen Tarapata: i'm in on locust but just because they remained so long on the outside, I thought it was it was only fair to have them remain a little longer. 175 00:17:14.850 --> 00:17:15.120 sylviajeff: than. 176 00:17:15.840 --> 00:17:20.580 sylviajeff: The other side, but you know I think i'm going to mention something that. 177 00:17:21.840 --> 00:17:27.270 sylviajeff: is probably appropriate, even though it's not for our town, but I think it affects the people who live in our town. 178 00:17:28.290 --> 00:17:29.130 Call-In User_1: Any of us who. 179 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:32.430 sylviajeff: Go to nyack to park for. 180 00:17:32.460 --> 00:17:34.350 sylviajeff: restaurants or events or anything like. 181 00:17:34.350 --> 00:17:35.670 sylviajeff: That may have. 182 00:17:35.700 --> 00:17:46.020 sylviajeff: The o'clock mobile APP because it's changed from the free bird atlas dispatch here to talk mobile park mobile had a breach of their security and a lot of. 183 00:17:46.890 --> 00:17:55.890 sylviajeff: passwords and things like that was stolen, so if anybody is using the park mobile APP they should probably change their password at minimum. 184 00:17:56.460 --> 00:17:57.210 Karen Tarapata: We were talking. 185 00:17:58.260 --> 00:17:58.680 Karen Tarapata: earlier. 186 00:18:00.060 --> 00:18:02.610 Karen Tarapata: Okay, so thank you so much. 187 00:18:03.870 --> 00:18:06.990 Karen Tarapata: that's good Jeff anything else officer, ladies. 188 00:18:07.380 --> 00:18:10.590 Call-In User_1: don't that is it Thank you so much we'll talk to you. 189 00:18:12.090 --> 00:18:17.310 Karen Tarapata: All right, good went to a little bit delayed for treasurer's report and the. 190 00:18:17.310 --> 00:18:24.090 Karen Tarapata: public hearing the tentative budget but i'm over to rich and we will start and rich. 191 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:25.890 Richard Fortunato: which you really have any everybody. 192 00:18:26.700 --> 00:18:35.490 Richard Fortunato: First, the treasurer's report, let me go through just a couple of things just to get in the Minutes, I need a resolution for a may 1 on payment. 193 00:18:36.210 --> 00:18:50.760 Richard Fortunato: it's for the public works building the dp w building it's the $1.3 million bond that we have made first we need to pay $65,000 in principle and $15,156 and 25 cents in interest. 194 00:18:52.110 --> 00:18:56.550 Karen Tarapata: Alright it's somebody emotion, to pay that make that bond payment. 195 00:18:58.830 --> 00:19:00.180 sylviajeff: That we make that bond payment. 196 00:19:01.110 --> 00:19:02.040 Karen Tarapata: And I get a second. 197 00:19:02.700 --> 00:19:03.900 Laurie Dodge: it's l'oreal second. 198 00:19:04.890 --> 00:19:06.360 Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye. 199 00:19:06.900 --> 00:19:07.710 michael esmay: Mike on. 200 00:19:08.820 --> 00:19:09.750 sylviajeff: Jeff by. 201 00:19:10.470 --> 00:19:11.340 Laurie Dodge: lori I. 202 00:19:11.940 --> 00:19:12.720 Kennon Rothchild: Can I. 203 00:19:13.470 --> 00:19:13.920 Karen. 204 00:19:15.270 --> 00:19:16.260 Karen Tarapata: All right, what else. 205 00:19:16.290 --> 00:19:30.750 Richard Fortunato: Yet Okay, a few housekeeping tips this month constitutional tax limit was filed and approved by the state and the village up or nine X property tax CAP calculation was filed and approved by the state. 206 00:19:34.440 --> 00:19:47.700 Richard Fortunato: Jeff was good enough to come in and sign all the vouchers in there nothing I mean Jeff unless you could add to it, nothing really notable up usual monthly suspects were in the vouchers. 207 00:19:50.940 --> 00:20:00.300 Richard Fortunato: i'm going through my list here okay anybody have any questions I sent the year to date financial statements, which was fine they look in line. 208 00:20:00.630 --> 00:20:03.450 Richard Fortunato: And everybody has my cell phone throughout. 209 00:20:03.510 --> 00:20:11.280 Richard Fortunato: The week, if you want to call me with any questions, but there was nothing in here that was memorable and everyone has a copy of it in their. 210 00:20:13.020 --> 00:20:14.250 Richard Fortunato: In their email. 211 00:20:17.250 --> 00:20:22.440 Richard Fortunato: Okay, last but not least, would be Karen do you want me to go through the budget highlights. 212 00:20:22.890 --> 00:20:27.780 Karen Tarapata: I think i'm learning to have have have a reason read the legal notice, first because. 213 00:20:27.810 --> 00:20:32.280 Karen Tarapata: It is a public hearing and then i'll have you give the High Level budget overview. 214 00:20:32.670 --> 00:20:33.210 Okay. 215 00:20:38.610 --> 00:20:44.820 Karen Tarapata: heather are you can you read the legal notice, where the notice of public hearing for the tentative budget or. 216 00:20:47.760 --> 00:20:50.760 Heather Candella: If you haven't available, I do not have it in front of me. 217 00:20:51.630 --> 00:20:59.970 Karen Tarapata: All right, legal number village of Upper and I notice a public hearing tentative budget 2021 2022. 218 00:21:00.840 --> 00:21:11.850 Karen Tarapata: A public hearing on the tentative budget, but the village upper nyack will be held on April 15 2021 at 7:15pm or as soon as practical via teleconference. 219 00:21:12.390 --> 00:21:17.130 Karen Tarapata: Due to the covert 19 pandemics, the village Board of Trustees will not be meeting in person. 220 00:21:17.820 --> 00:21:27.660 Karen Tarapata: In accordance with the applicable executive orders here in issued by the New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo suspending certain provisions of the New York state open meetings law. 221 00:21:28.140 --> 00:21:33.150 Karen Tarapata: The meeting will be held via teleconferencing and a transcript will be provided at a later date. 222 00:21:33.750 --> 00:21:43.890 Karen Tarapata: The public will have the opportunity to see, and here the meeting live and provide comments to access the meeting, please visit the villages website for ID number and password. 223 00:21:44.400 --> 00:21:56.670 Karen Tarapata: A meeting agenda will be posted in villages website comments and questions can also be provided via email before the meeting to karaoke brotherhood village clerk at village clerk at upper nyack. 224 00:21:57.630 --> 00:22:05.730 Karen Tarapata: New york.us a copy of the tentative budget will be available beginning march 26 2020 look at the office of the village. 225 00:22:06.330 --> 00:22:22.860 Karen Tarapata: Where maybe in pet inspected by any interested parties during business hours a copy will also be available on the village website www upper nyack new york.us dated march 10 2021 Harold cheap brother good village clerk. 226 00:22:24.450 --> 00:22:31.740 Karen Tarapata: All right, rich you want to give the High Level overview of the budget and then we'll open the public hearing. 227 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:32.730 Okay. 228 00:22:33.990 --> 00:22:40.230 Richard Fortunato: i'm just gonna go through the highlights of the revenue and expense sides of the. 229 00:22:41.520 --> 00:22:42.090 Richard Fortunato: Budget. 230 00:22:43.590 --> 00:22:55.380 Richard Fortunato: we're going to collect $2,130,000 in real estate taxes okay that makes up roughly a 1.6% increase from the prior year. 231 00:22:57.120 --> 00:23:01.860 Richard Fortunato: Other notable highlights on the revenue side would be our film revenue. 232 00:23:02.730 --> 00:23:11.520 Richard Fortunato: down last year, a little bit, I think, because of Kobe but recently I expect this year's film revenue to pick up state aid we're going to. 233 00:23:12.180 --> 00:23:20.790 Richard Fortunato: we're going to get because I hope we're going to get but we're going to get to state grants to $75,000 state grants from the State of New York. 234 00:23:21.210 --> 00:23:35.670 Richard Fortunato: totaling $150,000 our chips money chips is for paving and road surfaces we're going to get up New York state for approximately $100,000 in chips money's in the budget. 235 00:23:37.080 --> 00:23:42.360 Richard Fortunato: Mortgage taxes, I do expect mortgage taxes to increase in the coming year because of the. 236 00:23:43.230 --> 00:23:50.790 Richard Fortunato: The boom and sales in rockland county so our mortgage tax allegation that we get from the State of New York, I think, will increase in the coming year. 237 00:23:51.240 --> 00:24:05.490 Richard Fortunato: I do think that the sales tax revenue, the village is going to receive from the State of New York will decrease a little bit So those are those are kind of a notable revenue items on the revenue side of the budget on the expense side of the budget. 238 00:24:06.930 --> 00:24:10.770 Richard Fortunato: A lot of improvements to village infrastructure. 239 00:24:12.150 --> 00:24:18.480 Richard Fortunato: For example, village preserve improvements we're going to try to do a stone parking lot and improve the preserve. 240 00:24:19.980 --> 00:24:35.160 Richard Fortunato: In some ways in village hall new computers and new technology in village Hall, the old stone meeting house new lighting new wi fi for potential or meetings in the old stone meeting house. 241 00:24:37.020 --> 00:24:45.090 Richard Fortunato: Major repairs, would be to pave one one paving road repair on Piper i'm going to call that the type of project. 242 00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:59.940 Richard Fortunato: there's a major sidewalk project that we're going to do on broadway and there are three here resurfacing projects that we are going to attempt to do all three in one year I think it's a pretty aggressive. 243 00:25:01.350 --> 00:25:05.730 Richard Fortunato: schedule there's a lot to do on this list, but you know we usually get them all done. 244 00:25:07.230 --> 00:25:21.150 Richard Fortunato: The usual things like the sewer bill from orange town is on here that's a major expense to the village $430,000 a year according contract major expense for the village is on here and. 245 00:25:21.780 --> 00:25:33.570 Richard Fortunato: we're going to spend $410,000 this year and principal and interest on our three village bombs So those are the notable highlights for the new budget. 246 00:25:34.950 --> 00:25:38.580 Karen Tarapata: Great alright with someone make a motion to open the public hearing. 247 00:25:40.950 --> 00:25:43.590 Laurie Dodge: it's lori i'll make a motion we open the public hearing. 248 00:25:44.340 --> 00:25:45.180 Karen Tarapata: And I get a second. 249 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:46.620 Kennon Rothchild: This is caramel second. 250 00:25:47.910 --> 00:25:55.770 Karen Tarapata: All right, the public hearing is open Is there anyone who is on the call tonight to speak about the tentative budget. 251 00:26:01.230 --> 00:26:08.340 Karen Tarapata: We need a lot more light overhead me, I would ask if you're if you're not going to speak with you have your microphone muted. 252 00:26:09.630 --> 00:26:13.890 Karen Tarapata: If you wish to speak we'd love to hear from you, otherwise we will close the public hearing. 253 00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:19.290 Karen Tarapata: appears there's no one here. 254 00:26:20.370 --> 00:26:25.740 Richard Fortunato: Then summing it up, I think we do a lot with the with the budget here there's a lot in here and. 255 00:26:26.580 --> 00:26:37.680 Richard Fortunato: If anybody has any questions throughout the year they're more than happy to give the office a call and speak to me treasure rich Fortunato or any trustees as usual anytime you have a question, let me know, thank you. 256 00:26:37.830 --> 00:26:39.330 sylviajeff: Thank you, rich yep. 257 00:26:40.290 --> 00:26:42.660 Karen Tarapata: With someone make a mission to close the public hearing. 258 00:26:45.450 --> 00:26:45.690 Kennon Rothchild: yeah. 259 00:26:46.320 --> 00:26:49.140 Kennon Rothchild: I move we close the public hearing on the tentative budget. 260 00:26:50.310 --> 00:26:50.580 Karen Tarapata: Right. 261 00:26:50.700 --> 00:26:51.240 Second. 262 00:26:52.770 --> 00:26:54.000 Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye. 263 00:26:55.350 --> 00:26:56.430 sylviajeff: dress I. 264 00:26:56.850 --> 00:26:57.540 michael esmay: Like I. 265 00:26:59.370 --> 00:26:59.880 Kennon Rothchild: Can I. 266 00:27:00.390 --> 00:27:01.230 Laurie Dodge: lori I. 267 00:27:02.760 --> 00:27:03.720 Karen Tarapata: Karen I. 268 00:27:05.670 --> 00:27:14.250 Karen Tarapata: Alright alright so with someone emotionally well someone just commented that was great quick but we've had extensive. 269 00:27:15.330 --> 00:27:20.130 Karen Tarapata: workshop meetings and discussions about the budget, this is really we. 270 00:27:21.450 --> 00:27:28.020 Karen Tarapata: spend our time looking into it, making sure that we have a balanced budget that we have contingency that we have to preserve. 271 00:27:28.530 --> 00:27:45.060 Karen Tarapata: The village is in probably some of the best condition of any village in the state financially and I think we're doing very well with someone make a motion to adopt the budget, the tentative budget for 2020 2022. 272 00:27:48.810 --> 00:27:51.900 sylviajeff: I will make them emotion, to adopt the tentative budget for. 273 00:27:51.900 --> 00:27:53.220 2021 2022. 274 00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:55.650 18455216887: looking like will second. 275 00:27:57.270 --> 00:27:58.620 Karen Tarapata: All in favor say I. 276 00:27:59.580 --> 00:27:59.910 know. 277 00:28:01.530 --> 00:28:02.130 18455216887: Like I. 278 00:28:03.090 --> 00:28:03.840 Laurie Dodge: Already I. 279 00:28:04.470 --> 00:28:14.160 Karen Tarapata: Know Aaron is great Thank you so much, look at this 729 we're going to make it in time for our next. 280 00:28:15.810 --> 00:28:16.650 public hearing. 281 00:28:19.470 --> 00:28:23.760 Karen Tarapata: Until 730 to read them notice a public hearing. 282 00:28:25.620 --> 00:28:28.470 Heather Candella: I can Karen this is heather I can read this one I have thanks. 283 00:28:29.280 --> 00:28:30.000 Karen Tarapata: Oh, thank you. 284 00:28:31.980 --> 00:28:36.690 Karen Tarapata: So we'll wait another 10 or 15 seconds till we actually hit 730. 285 00:28:38.040 --> 00:28:42.450 Laurie Dodge: there's another question what's 1.6% mean to the average taxpayer. 286 00:28:44.550 --> 00:28:45.480 Laurie Dodge: retro you there. 287 00:28:45.600 --> 00:28:46.890 Richard Fortunato: yeah i'm still here. 288 00:28:46.980 --> 00:28:47.640 Richard Fortunato: um. 289 00:28:48.570 --> 00:28:56.190 Richard Fortunato: that's a tough question, because in in the village of upper nyack there are roughly 750 taxpayers and they kind of run the gamut. 290 00:28:57.930 --> 00:29:00.780 Richard Fortunato: There is no average right there a taxpayers who. 291 00:29:02.310 --> 00:29:10.020 Richard Fortunato: A this and they're taxpayers who pay 10 times this so a 1.6% increase in your taxes. 292 00:29:11.190 --> 00:29:27.930 Richard Fortunato: For every thousand dollars would be you know $16 so if your taxes last year or $1,000 they're going to be $16 this year, I mean that's you know there's really that's a hard question, I mean if you go look at your last year's tax bill and multiply it by. 293 00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:31.890 Richard Fortunato: 1.016. 294 00:29:31.950 --> 00:29:36.030 Kennon Rothchild: that's the increase yeah I think I think rich though it's important to point out. 295 00:29:36.030 --> 00:29:38.700 Kennon Rothchild: If you just go see the same to. 296 00:29:38.820 --> 00:29:40.080 Kennon Rothchild: multiply it it's not. 297 00:29:40.080 --> 00:29:45.330 Karen Tarapata: Against if you're not speaking, but i'm just curious if if you're not speaking, I would ask. 298 00:29:45.450 --> 00:29:48.540 19175660344: That you mute your microphone Thank you yeah. 299 00:29:48.630 --> 00:29:54.210 Kennon Rothchild: I think, so I think Richard support for the text person knows that in terms of their tax burden. 300 00:29:54.660 --> 00:29:56.070 Kennon Rothchild: 1.6 applies. 301 00:29:56.100 --> 00:30:05.490 Kennon Rothchild: Only to their upper nyack taxes so as an example, if your if your attack your total tax burden, over a year. 302 00:30:05.490 --> 00:30:11.700 Kennon Rothchild: it's $15,000 only approximately 10% of that it goes. 303 00:30:11.730 --> 00:30:12.420 19175660344: up or nyack. 304 00:30:12.810 --> 00:30:20.010 Kennon Rothchild: So that'd be 1500, which means the 1.6 would be approximately $40 I guess in. 305 00:30:20.010 --> 00:30:21.210 19175660344: Something like that so. 306 00:30:21.600 --> 00:30:34.110 Kennon Rothchild: don't don't sit there and took a look at your school taxes and say oh my God 1.6 of 20,000 is X that's not it at school taxes may go up but that's a different folk than ours. 307 00:30:34.980 --> 00:30:41.940 Richard Fortunato: yeah and exactly right the village taxes are a very small portion of your total its smallest of your total taxes. 308 00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:43.200 Richard Fortunato: yeah. 309 00:30:43.230 --> 00:30:46.740 Karen Tarapata: And so, just as an aside the cost of paving. 310 00:30:47.310 --> 00:30:48.660 Karen Tarapata: Our roads and repairing our. 311 00:30:48.660 --> 00:30:52.530 Karen Tarapata: Roads has gone up significantly that's the downside of. 312 00:30:53.700 --> 00:30:56.760 Karen Tarapata: Damage now is that materials are more expensive. 313 00:30:58.530 --> 00:31:07.230 Karen Tarapata: And as far as I can tell roads and trash pickup are the two major services that we provide to our residents. 314 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:16.770 Kennon Rothchild: I just wanna I just want to point out quickly Karen the prices are rising all over I totally unrelated to anything we're facing in our village. 315 00:31:17.490 --> 00:31:18.510 Kennon Rothchild: My business. 316 00:31:18.810 --> 00:31:20.280 19175660344: Which is property management. 317 00:31:20.670 --> 00:31:24.780 Kennon Rothchild: We faced a 54% increase in our insurance costs. 318 00:31:25.860 --> 00:31:27.690 19175660344: 54%. 319 00:31:29.250 --> 00:31:29.550 19175660344: So. 320 00:31:30.570 --> 00:31:31.290 Richard Fortunato: wow well. 321 00:31:31.320 --> 00:31:32.610 19175660344: And also On another note. 322 00:31:32.670 --> 00:31:34.470 Richard Fortunato: The inflation rate last year. 323 00:31:35.730 --> 00:31:37.740 Richard Fortunato: Was it was significantly higher than that it was. 324 00:31:37.740 --> 00:31:41.640 19175660344: 2.2 2.3 2.4% so. 325 00:31:42.540 --> 00:31:43.080 Karen Tarapata: You know, doing. 326 00:31:44.250 --> 00:31:46.470 Richard Fortunato: A 1.6 we're keeping up with. 327 00:31:47.700 --> 00:31:53.700 Richard Fortunato: Any we're not even keeping up with inflation so last year, a loaf of bread cost you, you know increase more. 328 00:31:53.760 --> 00:31:54.720 19175660344: than your. 329 00:31:54.840 --> 00:31:55.500 Richard Fortunato: within your. 330 00:31:55.530 --> 00:31:56.880 village status. 331 00:31:59.700 --> 00:32:01.530 19175660344: Alright, thank you, everybody. 332 00:32:01.650 --> 00:32:03.000 Karen Tarapata: Thank you for that clarification. 333 00:32:03.270 --> 00:32:04.500 Karen Tarapata: That was that was important. 334 00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:07.770 19175660344: To read the notice of public hearing. 335 00:32:09.660 --> 00:32:10.080 19175660344: Yes. 336 00:32:11.250 --> 00:32:12.570 19175660344: Please take notice. 337 00:32:12.630 --> 00:32:13.470 Heather Candella: That the board. 338 00:32:13.500 --> 00:32:20.550 Heather Candella: of trustees of the village of upper nyack will hold a public hearing on April 15 2021. 339 00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:22.560 19175660344: At 7:30pm. 340 00:32:22.650 --> 00:32:24.090 Heather Candella: Or, as soon practical. 341 00:32:24.420 --> 00:32:27.240 Heather Candella: To consider the adoption of a proposed law. 342 00:32:27.630 --> 00:32:34.050 Heather Candella: The noise law of the village of upper nyack regulating unnecessary noise within the village of upper nyack. 343 00:32:34.740 --> 00:32:37.500 Heather Candella: The full text of the proposed law local law. 344 00:32:37.590 --> 00:32:40.020 Heather Candella: is available on the site. 345 00:32:41.070 --> 00:32:42.990 19175660344: At https colon. 346 00:32:42.990 --> 00:32:47.880 Heather Candella: slash slash www dot upper nyack dash. 347 00:32:47.910 --> 00:32:49.530 ny.us. 348 00:32:50.580 --> 00:32:52.350 Heather Candella: Due to the coven pandemic. 349 00:32:52.440 --> 00:33:01.500 Heather Candella: The village Board of Trustees will not be meeting in person, in accordance with the applicable executive orders here to issued by. 350 00:33:01.980 --> 00:33:19.260 Heather Candella: The New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo suspending certain provisions of the New York state open meetings law, the meeting will be held via video conferencing, and a transcript will be provided at a later date, the public will have the opportunity to see and hear live and provide. 351 00:33:19.320 --> 00:33:20.070 comments. 352 00:33:21.270 --> 00:33:22.800 Heather Candella: to access the meeting, please. 353 00:33:23.160 --> 00:33:26.610 Heather Candella: visit the villages website for ID number and password. 354 00:33:27.180 --> 00:33:29.910 Heather Candella: A meeting agenda will be posted to the villages website. 355 00:33:30.420 --> 00:33:31.980 Heather Candella: comments and questions will also be. 356 00:33:31.980 --> 00:33:32.730 Heather Candella: provided via. 357 00:33:32.760 --> 00:33:42.300 Heather Candella: email before meeting to Carol G brotherhood village clerk at village clerk at upper nyack dash ny.us. 358 00:33:42.780 --> 00:33:45.510 Heather Candella: dated march 10 2021. 359 00:33:45.690 --> 00:33:47.400 Heather Candella: girl G brotherhood village. 360 00:33:49.740 --> 00:33:50.220 Karen Tarapata: All right. 361 00:33:50.310 --> 00:33:55.500 Karen Tarapata: Before I open the public hearing asked open public sharing. 362 00:33:56.250 --> 00:33:57.750 19175660344: I just want to introduce. 363 00:33:57.780 --> 00:33:58.950 19175660344: This local law. 364 00:33:59.130 --> 00:34:00.840 Karen Tarapata: And it's legislative intent. 365 00:34:01.980 --> 00:34:02.970 Karen Tarapata: The making and creating. 366 00:34:03.120 --> 00:34:03.750 Karen Tarapata: unreasonable. 367 00:34:04.080 --> 00:34:05.610 19175660344: Serving and obsessive noise. 368 00:34:06.840 --> 00:34:07.500 Karen Tarapata: Excuse me. 369 00:34:07.650 --> 00:34:08.310 Karen Tarapata: If you're not. 370 00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:10.830 Karen Tarapata: Eating for two pictures, could you mute the MIC. 371 00:34:18.450 --> 00:34:21.660 19175660344: We can hear each other, there we go. 372 00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:30.840 Karen Tarapata: Alright, the making and creating of unreasonably disturbing or excessive noise within the village of upper neck is a condition which has persisted. 373 00:34:31.380 --> 00:34:35.850 Karen Tarapata: And the leveling frequency of occurrences of such noises continues to increase. 374 00:34:36.570 --> 00:34:43.770 Karen Tarapata: These noise levels are a detriment to the public health comfort convenience safety and welfare of the citizens of the village. 375 00:34:44.490 --> 00:34:52.950 Karen Tarapata: It is the intent of this local law to balance the rights of residents and property owners to use their property in a reasonable manner. 376 00:34:53.340 --> 00:35:00.000 Karen Tarapata: With the rights of others in the village to be free of excessive continuous unnecessary or disturbing noise. 377 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:18.120 Karen Tarapata: A little background I think they bring committee but we've been talking about a noise ordinance for as long as I have been on the board and over many years, we have met with representatives of noise monitoring companies, we have talked to. 378 00:35:19.290 --> 00:35:24.780 Karen Tarapata: The enforcement officials in various towns, including. 379 00:35:25.950 --> 00:35:43.890 Karen Tarapata: parks town and pure Mont we've really made an effort to understand this issue and to understand how we can address this issue in a way that is in keeping with the size and capabilities of our village. 380 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:55.890 Karen Tarapata: Currently, the only reference to noise in our general ordinance is one small thing under disorderly conduct, I just want you to know where we're coming from. 381 00:35:56.430 --> 00:36:07.860 Karen Tarapata: Before we talk about where we're going to and that's ordinance 5.6 and it says item G operate any musical instrument or drunk. 382 00:36:08.340 --> 00:36:31.830 Karen Tarapata: or cause any noise, to be made within the village for advertising purposes or for the purpose of attracting attention to any exhibition performance show or other spectacle or operate any radio, TV phonograph or other sound producing device in such loud manner as to annoy any person. 383 00:36:33.150 --> 00:36:37.680 Karen Tarapata: Well, everything from a cat to. 384 00:36:39.210 --> 00:36:49.170 Karen Tarapata: earth mover to leaf blower too heavy equipment Those are all sound producing devices it's a company where we're coming from is virtually boundless. 385 00:36:49.890 --> 00:37:03.060 Karen Tarapata: So what we're trying to do is to propose a law that we believe is reasonable and enforceable, we were inspired by the village of dobbs ferry. 386 00:37:03.630 --> 00:37:12.510 Karen Tarapata: And their approach and I know that Diana greenwald of the breeding committee had any correspondence with. 387 00:37:13.290 --> 00:37:29.370 Karen Tarapata: The Mayor of dobbs ferry and we received those comments of how their law has been received, they do not use decibels primarily because they found that to be unenforceable. 388 00:37:30.090 --> 00:37:49.380 Karen Tarapata: And that was something that we were told by both parks town and pure mind that having decibel limits was verte was very, very difficult to enforce because of the complexity of the equipment and the level of training and redundancy of testing that has to be done. 389 00:37:50.790 --> 00:38:03.420 Karen Tarapata: That said, we are here tonight to listen to you to residents about this local law, I would say we have received many, many, many comments. 390 00:38:04.170 --> 00:38:15.660 Karen Tarapata: First, of which i'm just going to read the referrals from other from our referring agencies we got a referral from the Department of planning of rockland county. 391 00:38:16.770 --> 00:38:18.150 Karen Tarapata: On march 25. 392 00:38:19.170 --> 00:38:29.730 Karen Tarapata: And they said, since the local level have no adverse impacts on any countywide interests, this matter is remanded for local determination. 393 00:38:31.410 --> 00:38:39.120 Karen Tarapata: We also received a referral from the town of clark's town on march 15 2021. 394 00:38:40.140 --> 00:38:45.300 Karen Tarapata: it's at the planning board discussed you referenced matter at their march 3 2021 meeting. 395 00:38:46.170 --> 00:39:01.080 Karen Tarapata: After a brief discussion on the motion of cats second divided by tonto and caring five to zero with eyes of statement or dano and virtually no the planning board of the town of firestone deems the matter for local determination. 396 00:39:02.820 --> 00:39:10.110 Karen Tarapata: And finally, we received a referral from the village of nyack on February 22 2021. 397 00:39:11.340 --> 00:39:18.450 Karen Tarapata: And they said says, dear miss Brotherhood, thank you for your referral of this application to the village of nyack. 398 00:39:19.110 --> 00:39:27.390 Karen Tarapata: We understand that the village of upper neck Board of Trustees has set a public hearing on this legislation for April 15 2021. 399 00:39:28.290 --> 00:39:40.410 Karen Tarapata: The intent of the proposed noise legislation is to control access it continuous unnecessary or disturbing noise balanced against the rights of residents and property owners to use their property in a reasonable manner. 400 00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:53.730 Karen Tarapata: The new law specifies the types of unnecessary noise covered under legislation, the proposed law provides specified hours and defines the distance from the property lines that such sound can be audible. 401 00:39:54.540 --> 00:40:02.610 Karen Tarapata: For leaf blowers or other power tools or machinery, the legislation provide seasonal times when such equipment is allowed to be used. 402 00:40:03.240 --> 00:40:18.840 Karen Tarapata: The new law includes exceptions from the provisions of the Code upon review the village of upper night considers to be a matter of local determination, with no adverse impacts on the village of nyack it has no comments on the application. 403 00:40:23.100 --> 00:40:25.740 Karen Tarapata: All right, and with that. 404 00:40:26.940 --> 00:40:39.450 Karen Tarapata: I oh last thing I want to say is we are proposing and aggressive education campaign if this law if and when this law is adopted to Homeowners. 405 00:40:40.650 --> 00:40:48.900 Karen Tarapata: business owners all licensed contractors and landscapers all those licensed with the county of rockland. 406 00:40:49.680 --> 00:41:03.420 Karen Tarapata: And I was particularly send any materials relating to lawn care equipment to Steve bottle and the landscapers association, it was also suggested that these these items also be made bilingual. 407 00:41:04.890 --> 00:41:10.170 Karen Tarapata: And with that introduction, I would ask that someone make a motion to open the public hearing. 408 00:41:10.260 --> 00:41:11.220 On the goalies law. 409 00:41:13.860 --> 00:41:18.930 Laurie Dodge: it's lori i'll make the motion that we open the public hearing on the proposed noise law. 410 00:41:20.430 --> 00:41:22.470 sylviajeff: And it's Jeff i'll second that motion. 411 00:41:23.520 --> 00:41:23.910 sylviajeff: alright. 412 00:41:24.150 --> 00:41:31.710 Karen Tarapata: The public hearing is open, I just want to state before we let people start speaking, if you have sent your comments in. 413 00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:39.240 Karen Tarapata: And we have many, many, many comments that have already been submitted in writing, I would ask the not speak this evening. 414 00:41:40.170 --> 00:41:56.430 Karen Tarapata: We are going to publish all of the submitted comments on our website we're going to create and have a special area tomorrow for this noise law so that people can easily review all the comments and concerns of their neighbors. 415 00:41:57.600 --> 00:42:10.140 Karen Tarapata: With that said Is there anyone who has come to speak on this matter of this evening and would you please identify yourself before you speak been recognized Connie coker. 416 00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:13.260 Meave Tooher: Thank you very much. 417 00:42:13.650 --> 00:42:27.300 Connie Coker: My name is Connie coker I live at 106 locust my husband and I moved here last May, from South nyack and we're very grateful to be living in Upper nyack where you're considering. 418 00:42:27.750 --> 00:42:43.710 Connie Coker: This not noise ordinance, which we support, I am a retired midwife, and I was also a county legislature legislator from 2007 to 2011 where I was here of the Environmental Committee so i'm very much. 419 00:42:44.190 --> 00:42:54.540 Connie Coker: committed to the fact that these gas blowers emit such toxins into our air, not just in addition to the noise pollution. 420 00:42:55.380 --> 00:43:10.050 Connie Coker: I left the legislature to return to my work and women's health and I am in favor, as I said, of this proposed seasonal band, and on the use of gas powered leaf blowers, and thank you very much for your attention to this matter. 421 00:43:11.310 --> 00:43:14.310 Karen Tarapata: Thank you i'd like to recognize Diana greenwald. 422 00:43:16.470 --> 00:43:27.750 Diana B Greenwald: hi thanks Karen hi everyone if I haven't met you, I am the acting Chair of the green Committee and my husband Dave and I moved here that burned, I can summer of 2018. 423 00:43:28.680 --> 00:43:39.300 Diana B Greenwald: dave's originally from Michigan and i'm originally from the Boston area and and I have about just about three minutes of sort of contacts on this issue, and then I, and then I won't really speak. 424 00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:51.660 Diana B Greenwald: Any further but Dave and I moved here from Michigan and he had owned a home before, but I I had I had never owned a home, so it was really exciting moving up or nyack to buy our first home together. 425 00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:57.960 Diana B Greenwald: We spent about a year searching in areas that we're comfortable to Harlem I work at city college at cuny. 426 00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:15.420 Diana B Greenwald: And we were totally charmed by the NIH X and the the natural beauty of this area and the people and the small businesses and just everything that makes this Community special The one thing that we didn't really plan on when we moved here was the din. 427 00:44:16.500 --> 00:44:29.310 Diana B Greenwald: And I don't mean you know passing traffic kids playing and shouting you know the normal construction projects going on around a suburb I mean the near constant. 428 00:44:30.420 --> 00:44:37.440 Diana B Greenwald: drone that has been the backdrop to our lives, my husband's a musician he says it's a B flat the note. 429 00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:45.960 Diana B Greenwald: You know it's going basically constantly um you know when i'm working when i'm trying to do work in our own yard when i'm. 430 00:44:46.530 --> 00:44:54.060 Diana B Greenwald: Taking the dog for a walk when i'm on the phone with my mom and whatever it might be it's this one and in the background. 431 00:44:54.780 --> 00:45:10.050 Diana B Greenwald: So I in fall 2018 basically I wrote to Judy Ryan, who I think it's on the call here, who was the one of the co founders with Aaron Morgan of the green committee and I learned that there they had just assembled the committee at that time and. 432 00:45:11.850 --> 00:45:20.010 Diana B Greenwald: they've identified a number of issues that they wanted to focus on including tree planting water conservation and quality clean and renewable energy. 433 00:45:20.700 --> 00:45:24.690 Diana B Greenwald: Green landscaping and reduction of noise and air pollution from the blowers. 434 00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:38.040 Diana B Greenwald: So we began researching this issue and in the process we shared a lot of that information with the board and with the with the Mayor, we learned that the blowers gas blowers, in particular pollute our air. 435 00:45:38.790 --> 00:45:51.900 Diana B Greenwald: That the decibel level at which they operate is risky for hearing damage and hearing loss and that we were not alone in seeking some change so many communities all over the country have already regulated gas powered blowers. 436 00:45:52.770 --> 00:45:59.640 Diana B Greenwald: including many just over the river in westchester pelham rye dobbs ferry ardsley. 437 00:46:00.180 --> 00:46:10.530 Diana B Greenwald: Never mamaroneck I can never say Hastings bronxville larchmont new Rochelle scarsdale yonkers irvington Austin in Bedford just to name a few. 438 00:46:10.890 --> 00:46:20.340 Diana B Greenwald: And many of those regulations had been on the books, since 2008 so over 10 years ago at this point so in fall 2019 the next year. 439 00:46:21.180 --> 00:46:30.450 Diana B Greenwald: The Mayor and the board invited the green committee to provide an educational presentation to the board, which we did, and that was open for public comment and discussion. 440 00:46:30.990 --> 00:46:47.520 Diana B Greenwald: We also begin the process of kind of reaching out to area towns and villages that had passed, these regulations, so we spoke to people in maplewood New Jersey Hastings dobbs ferry etc, and we receive some important feedback and lessons learned from them. 441 00:46:48.600 --> 00:46:59.400 Diana B Greenwald: In mamaroneck a member of the sustainability collaborative there said, you know personally he expected a lot of pushback when they passed their law. 442 00:46:59.940 --> 00:47:10.830 Diana B Greenwald: But it didn't happen, he said there continue to be some disregard of the law, but the band had in general sharply reduced gas flow or usage during the summer months. 443 00:47:11.670 --> 00:47:19.800 Diana B Greenwald: And he said, you know some had to argue that landscapers not being able to use gas blowers that would increase prices. 444 00:47:20.370 --> 00:47:33.060 Diana B Greenwald: And he said that seems like a reasonable thing to suppose, but it hasn't really happened in his town, he said, overall, the their leaf blower regulation had been a success and generally had gained Community acceptance. 445 00:47:33.930 --> 00:47:41.460 Diana B Greenwald: In croton we heard that land a landscaper was actually on their conservation Council and was one of the quote forces behind the band. 446 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:52.320 Diana B Greenwald: That landscaper was promoting a love them and leave them policy which is promoting alternative approaches like mulching in place and other techniques to avoid using gas blowers. 447 00:47:53.460 --> 00:48:05.430 Diana B Greenwald: And mayor terracotta and the board placed discussions of a possible leaf blower regulation on the agenda for the regular workshop meetings in January and April of 2020. 448 00:48:06.540 --> 00:48:12.690 Diana B Greenwald: I heard from at least two landscape business owners during those meetings, and I know that the mayor followed up with both of them. 449 00:48:13.380 --> 00:48:28.110 Diana B Greenwald: And I noticed as well during the lockdown some communities around us actually instituted temporary bands on gas power blowers during the pandemic up or nyack refrain from doing that and I think. 450 00:48:28.620 --> 00:48:37.200 Diana B Greenwald: Part of the reason for resisting that was to really get this Community input and make sure that we had some legislation that could really stick. 451 00:48:37.770 --> 00:48:49.230 Diana B Greenwald: And in July 2020 we held a virtual workshop with a selection of area mayor's who had mayors and Council members whose villages have. 452 00:48:50.130 --> 00:48:58.140 Diana B Greenwald: enacted these regulations, so we learned a lot of tips there keep the law, simple and easy to enforce. 453 00:48:59.130 --> 00:49:15.150 Diana B Greenwald: For example, you know don't impose separate regulations on commercial operators versus residents don't regulate decibel levels, as was just mentioned, you know don't regulate the number of blowers permitted her property etc keep it simple. 454 00:49:16.350 --> 00:49:26.370 Diana B Greenwald: don't make the law enforceable on the final operators so, namely like the employees of these landscaping companies you don't want them to be the ones held liable for. 455 00:49:26.940 --> 00:49:36.300 Diana B Greenwald: For fines and penalties and finally leave an option for quieter and cleaner alternatives such as battery operated or electric blowers. 456 00:49:37.230 --> 00:49:48.870 Diana B Greenwald: So I should say I am a political science professor and I certainly do not believe government can fix everything I really don't I no offense to the village board but. 457 00:49:49.350 --> 00:49:54.570 Diana B Greenwald: In general I don't think government is the solution to everything, but it can be good and really good at some things. 458 00:49:54.930 --> 00:50:16.440 Diana B Greenwald: And what it can be good at is tragedies of the commons where each individual is basically doing what's in their own best interest, but as a result we're slowly depleting the public good, and in this case I don't think any single household or company or industry or anyone deserves blame. 459 00:50:17.520 --> 00:50:26.940 Diana B Greenwald: But I think this is a tragedy of the commons and I think, in this case the commons is our air quality it's our land on our climate and it's our quality of life. 460 00:50:27.600 --> 00:50:34.980 Diana B Greenwald: And this law is basically needed to create incentives for individuals to change their behavior and protect all those resources. 461 00:50:35.790 --> 00:50:45.870 Diana B Greenwald: And then the last comment, I would just have is on the dog barking part the animal portion of the law so as a dog owner our dog, is it you know she has a set of pipes she can bark. 462 00:50:46.380 --> 00:50:50.520 Diana B Greenwald: We know that and we read the lawn at first, we were a little surprised at that portion. 463 00:50:51.090 --> 00:51:05.970 Diana B Greenwald: Regulating section three be regulating animals, but then we realized, you know 10 minutes of continuous barking that's a lot that's something that I would absolutely think of as a potential inconvenience to my neighbors and so i'm you know happy to comply with that. 464 00:51:07.290 --> 00:51:13.170 Diana B Greenwald: I would also worry about my dog if she was barking for more than 10 minutes outside, so it seems to seem very reasonable to me. 465 00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:15.630 Diana B Greenwald: that's that's all I got. 466 00:51:16.710 --> 00:51:19.800 Karen Tarapata: Thank you, Dan I recognize carolyn Cohen. 467 00:51:25.260 --> 00:51:33.900 Carolyn Cohen: I was just getting off mute hi this is carolyn Cohen, I live at one Perry lane, and we happen to live right next to the boatyard. 468 00:51:34.290 --> 00:51:36.330 Carolyn Cohen: So we are you know. 469 00:51:36.900 --> 00:51:45.030 Carolyn Cohen: in the throes of you know, the noise issues that are coming from the boatyard and it and I think the point that I want to make. 470 00:51:45.420 --> 00:51:51.660 Carolyn Cohen: Is you know you had factored in continuous noise is one of the big issues um. 471 00:51:52.230 --> 00:52:02.520 Carolyn Cohen: You know and and I have a dog as well, and I am happy to comply with a 10 minute dog barking because I can understand how that would be annoying but the boatyard. 472 00:52:03.480 --> 00:52:15.060 Carolyn Cohen: is at work all day long spraying and there you know, so if we're not going to measure decibel levels, it is continuous noise for hours and hours on end. 473 00:52:15.420 --> 00:52:27.060 Carolyn Cohen: And if I have to regulate my dog, and I have to regulate my blowers i'm all fine with that and i'm happy to be a good Community Member, but it seems unfair to me. 474 00:52:27.420 --> 00:52:40.230 Carolyn Cohen: That the boatyard has the flexibility to not only be very loud and their machinery very commercial you know we have these big massive boats that we are putting up with. 475 00:52:40.950 --> 00:52:45.030 Carolyn Cohen: But that the noise Monday through Saturday. 476 00:52:45.600 --> 00:52:54.330 Carolyn Cohen: From the time they start, so the time they finish is pretty continuous and if we're going to keep it simple and have one rule for everyone. 477 00:52:54.600 --> 00:53:09.960 Carolyn Cohen: You know i'm not quite sure how you approach that but I want to raise my hand and say that I believe that that is a substantial problem, and you know it's it's really, really, really loud and really, really constant. 478 00:53:12.990 --> 00:53:14.670 Karen Tarapata: Thank you, thank you. 479 00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:16.800 let's see if I. 480 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:21.300 Karen Tarapata: may see Dave I believe you were the next one, to have your. 481 00:53:21.300 --> 00:53:21.810 Karen Tarapata: hand up. 482 00:53:23.730 --> 00:53:33.960 Meave Tooher: Thank you mayor and I really appreciate it, I made tour from tour and barone we represent goose town environmental advocates, they are a group of residents from your community. 483 00:53:34.410 --> 00:53:44.070 Meave Tooher: I we did submit written comments my did receive a note from you may are indicating that you were concerned that the board had not had an opportunity to review those. 484 00:53:44.700 --> 00:53:50.880 Meave Tooher: So i'm going to touch on them very briefly, I will try and keep my comments brief, I understand there's a lot of people who are interested. 485 00:53:51.480 --> 00:54:00.330 Meave Tooher: But even with the comments that i've listened to, thus far it's clear that noise is a Community concern and you read. 486 00:54:00.750 --> 00:54:11.190 Meave Tooher: The purpose of the noise ordinance and I think that that's that's really important in trying to find a solution to what can be, and is, in many instances, a problem. 487 00:54:12.120 --> 00:54:19.680 Meave Tooher: you've suggested the qualitative ordinance and, although you have received some support for that approach. 488 00:54:20.010 --> 00:54:34.290 Meave Tooher: i'm here this evening to say that I would like you to consider at least a more quantitative approach and there's a couple of reasons for that a qualitative ordnance really is questionable on enforcement there was vagaries to the. 489 00:54:34.290 --> 00:54:46.140 Meave Tooher: terms, and it may not result in any actual reduction in noise, especially we were just talking about the the concept of noise. 490 00:54:46.590 --> 00:54:56.700 Meave Tooher: Continuing for extended periods of time there's a three hour limit with a half hour break with some of the decibel levels that has been experienced as a consequence. 491 00:54:57.090 --> 00:55:02.070 Meave Tooher: Specifically, of the boatyard that could actually result in public health damage. 492 00:55:02.760 --> 00:55:14.400 Meave Tooher: The draft comprehensive plan that you're all working so hard on speaks to noise and mentions using performance standards well performance standards are a quantitative ordnance standard. 493 00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:29.880 Meave Tooher: And the benefits of using a quantitative wardman standard is that you can use scientific measures to determine what you want, for your community and what is injuring your Community it actually makes enforcement easier. 494 00:55:30.750 --> 00:55:41.070 Meave Tooher: it's less challengeable in court, because it can be uniformly enforced we've submitted the comments from expert Ted think of green plan limited. 495 00:55:41.700 --> 00:55:49.320 Meave Tooher: Ted works with a number of municipalities and he hardly recommends using a quantitative measure. 496 00:55:49.770 --> 00:55:56.850 Meave Tooher: The reason for that is exactly the things I just spoke to that you can have very specific standards that have to be enforced. 497 00:55:57.420 --> 00:56:11.610 Meave Tooher: I understand that there is training that's required to go into that and that there or there is a requirement for equipment, however, I would assert that one lawsuit would more than pay for the equipment and training. 498 00:56:12.000 --> 00:56:22.140 Meave Tooher: If you're going to have people challenging every time that there is enforcement you're going to have people challenging the noise and ordinance itself you're going to have challenges to. 499 00:56:22.860 --> 00:56:29.580 Meave Tooher: disparate enforcement, if you have set decibel levels set guidance, it makes it much easier. 500 00:56:30.120 --> 00:56:43.410 Meave Tooher: And decibel levels or something that have been examined by a number of entities, the Dec has a noise guides they recommend 65 decibels as your standard levels, the EPA. 501 00:56:43.950 --> 00:57:00.150 Meave Tooher: also has a model ordinance and they have definitive standards and reliable monitoring equipment as the baselines for an enforceable noise ordinance they also recommend a minimum or maximum of 55 decibels before enforcement begins. 502 00:57:00.930 --> 00:57:07.110 Meave Tooher: housing and urban development wreck recommend 60 decibels OSHA recommends 70 decibels. 503 00:57:07.200 --> 00:57:09.840 Meave Tooher: The federal highway authority from highway noise. 504 00:57:10.050 --> 00:57:20.340 Meave Tooher: sets the level at 70 decibels the World Health Organization, which has done the most recent studies on noise and the impacts on the Community indicates that. 505 00:57:21.270 --> 00:57:31.590 Meave Tooher: decibel levels is an acceptable level of noise for a Community and that once you go above 70 decibels you can cause hearing impairment. 506 00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:41.730 Meave Tooher: physiological impacts sleep deprivation it's it's really a pretty serious situation that noise pollution creates for your community. 507 00:57:42.390 --> 00:57:53.220 Meave Tooher: One of the points i'd like to make is that GA We contacted montrose environmental and they conducted a noise study in the homes around the shipyard. 508 00:57:53.760 --> 00:58:03.180 Meave Tooher: decibel levels around the shipyard reached levels of 107 and 108 decibels on a fairly regular basis. 509 00:58:03.600 --> 00:58:14.550 Meave Tooher: That is known to be dangerous levels for individuals humans to be exposed to, if you were working in that environment, you would have to have protective equipment. 510 00:58:14.730 --> 00:58:26.940 Meave Tooher: The concept of individuals in their home having to wear protective equipment to protect themselves from their neighbors noise is something that i'm certain you as a community don't want to have to enforce. 511 00:58:27.420 --> 00:58:38.490 Meave Tooher: there's there's so many issues as a result of noise pollution that I commend the board for going down this road, but the ordinance that's currently proposed creates a number of vagaries. 512 00:58:38.790 --> 00:58:45.240 Meave Tooher: If you look at heavy machinery is actually less regulated than outdoor power tools. 513 00:58:45.540 --> 00:58:56.340 Meave Tooher: I fully understand the annoyance and, in fact, the damage that can be caused by the decibel levels of things like leaf blowers, but as you heard at least one neighbor already comment. 514 00:58:56.700 --> 00:59:11.250 Meave Tooher: Three hours of 107 decibels is simply unlivable setting a standard of 100 feet from the property line doesn't take into account many of the the lots in your village. 515 00:59:11.610 --> 00:59:20.190 Meave Tooher: Some of the lots are quite small the homes are quite close to each other 100 feet from the property line can be very consequential. 516 00:59:20.940 --> 00:59:25.080 Meave Tooher: The other point that I would like to make is that the fines that are set forth. 517 00:59:25.650 --> 00:59:37.830 Meave Tooher: are inadequate, I understand, not wanting to impose heavy fines on you know residents who happen to have a lab party or have a dog was barking, but when you have businesses that are routinely. 518 00:59:38.700 --> 00:59:46.860 Meave Tooher: violating a noise ordinance and routinely impacting their neighbors these types of minimal fines have almost no impact. 519 00:59:47.220 --> 00:59:55.590 Meave Tooher: You cited to the Clarks town law, the Clarks town last starts with finds of 20 $500 and it goes as high as $15,000. 520 00:59:55.920 --> 01:00:04.590 Meave Tooher: for repeat offenders Those are the kinds of fines that one justify your enforcement costs and to act as a real detriment. 521 01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:13.020 Meave Tooher: So I would ask, as you go forward and you're listening to your comments to think about you know that the actual enforceability of the law. 522 01:00:13.740 --> 01:00:25.530 Meave Tooher: There may be some expense, but if you have defined standards and reliable monitoring equipment, you can effectively enforce this and protect your community from a very real public health threat. 523 01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:34.320 Meave Tooher: Thank you so much, I would ask that you all, take a chance take an opportunity to read ted's letter and the comments that we've provided on the wall, thank you. 524 01:00:35.340 --> 01:00:36.060 Karen Tarapata: Thank you me. 525 01:00:37.980 --> 01:00:39.960 Karen Tarapata: Who would like to speak next. 526 01:00:42.060 --> 01:00:44.220 Karen Tarapata: You can unmute yourself and. 527 01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:50.340 Karen Tarapata: I don't have any one's hand up, so I just need somebody to oh Smith is. 528 01:00:50.370 --> 01:00:51.570 put up your hand so see. 529 01:00:53.910 --> 01:00:54.180 carol.lusignan@sesame.org: Oh. 530 01:00:56.040 --> 01:01:00.840 Sue Smith: Thank you, can you hear me okay i'm zoom professional. 531 01:01:02.790 --> 01:01:04.800 Sue Smith: Can you hear me yes. 532 01:01:05.070 --> 01:01:16.860 Sue Smith: Okay um I was hoping the board could address um how how they envision enforcement on of the heavy machinery clause of the noise proposed noise otter ordinance. 533 01:01:17.460 --> 01:01:36.330 Sue Smith: With specifically with respect to three hours on 30 minutes off like How does that, how is that how's that enforceable, I guess, I don't see a code compliance officer or anyone hanging out, you know for for three and a half hours to make sure that it. 534 01:01:37.500 --> 01:01:38.940 Sue Smith: That it's in compliance. 535 01:01:42.330 --> 01:01:51.510 Karen Tarapata: I would say that's a very that's a great question if there was a complaint, yes, that person would have to stay there for three hours during that enforcement period. 536 01:01:52.200 --> 01:01:59.010 Sue Smith: That that person being a code compliance officer or police officer, or who would who would that person be I guess is my. 537 01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:01.440 Karen Tarapata: would be our code enforcement official. 538 01:02:02.370 --> 01:02:02.700 God. 539 01:02:04.290 --> 01:02:04.860 William?s iPhone: Really. 540 01:02:07.260 --> 01:02:11.640 Karen Tarapata: If you're not if you're not speaking, I ask that you keep your microphone muted. 541 01:02:13.050 --> 01:02:14.940 Karen Tarapata: All right, anything else you. 542 01:02:16.620 --> 01:02:30.030 Sue Smith: Only that that that doesn't seem terribly realistic but that's just that's my comment, and I also have the comment that I know you guys have put a lot of time and effort into this and we appreciate, you know you folks doing this. 543 01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:37.530 Karen Tarapata: Okay, more with this next person wanted to speak. 544 01:02:38.130 --> 01:02:46.470 mort: yeah guess what what I want to do is, I want to kind of put a human face on what and to a Brown and green plans a comprehensive report. 545 01:02:46.980 --> 01:02:55.710 mort: and describe our experiences a little bit, we cannot have our windows open in our House on a night we live so For those of you who don't know we live right next to the shipyard. 546 01:02:57.330 --> 01:03:05.820 mort: And we cannot have our windows open in our House and a nice spring and summer days, because the noise is too unbearable we cannot sit on our porch and have a cup of coffee. 547 01:03:06.420 --> 01:03:15.330 mort: We cannot have lunch on our patty because the noise is so irritating we cannot have guests over outside on a Saturday afternoon, we cannot enjoy being outside on a property. 548 01:03:16.080 --> 01:03:22.950 mort: Also i'm i'm gonna second kind of what Susan and in terms of enforcement, how do I file a complaint, if there is a violation of the law is currently written. 549 01:03:23.970 --> 01:03:29.100 mort: If there isn't an enforcement officer onsite for four hours to time the periods of noise and subsequent breaks. 550 01:03:29.490 --> 01:03:40.530 mort: It is just the word of a complaint against the word of the violator, it is an everybody's the villages let's use a shipyard ours in everybody's best interest at performance standards. 551 01:03:41.070 --> 01:03:52.890 mort: So that there's an objective standard to judge them though his by otherwise you know it's laws almost meaningless and on a deeper level, I want to speak of the physical and mental health issues, created by excessive noise. 552 01:03:53.940 --> 01:03:59.160 mort: My family suffered a grievous it is created for me serious issues with Depression and anxiety. 553 01:03:59.790 --> 01:04:07.200 mort: The noise from the north river shipyard has made my mental health issues, much more difficult to live with, with no safe haven in our in our home. 554 01:04:07.680 --> 01:04:14.910 mort: The ongoing excessive noise increased levels of anxiety stress and discomfort was taking a toll on my physical and mental health. 555 01:04:15.630 --> 01:04:23.850 mort: This is not just theoretical arguments, these are very real consequences for the health and well being of the bit Hatton landing community, thank you very much. 556 01:04:25.230 --> 01:04:25.740 Thank you. 557 01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:29.910 Karen Tarapata: All right, we have Carol listen. 558 01:04:30.360 --> 01:04:39.300 carol.lusignan@sesame.org: Yes, very good, thank you, good evening to everybody in the board, this is my husband Michael and I have live on school street and. 559 01:04:40.350 --> 01:04:53.790 carol.lusignan@sesame.org: We have been here for 18 years and I think is Diana express we love upper nyack for all the nature and being able to get out and walk, but I think we did start to notice that there is a lot of noise. 560 01:04:54.930 --> 01:05:07.170 carol.lusignan@sesame.org: And for us probably most impacted by people taking care of their yards and landscaping so we appreciate this effort, and this initiative by the board. 561 01:05:07.530 --> 01:05:17.640 carol.lusignan@sesame.org: To really spearhead this but I was also very interested in what made was saying about having quantitative kind of measurements to go by and. 562 01:05:18.870 --> 01:05:28.710 carol.lusignan@sesame.org: I think that seems like that would strengthen this ordinance and make it more impactful but I guess, my question is a process question if we. 563 01:05:29.820 --> 01:05:42.330 carol.lusignan@sesame.org: can read the notes and letters that people have submitted tomorrow is there still opportunity to contribute to that or how does this move forward after this hearing. 564 01:05:43.710 --> 01:05:48.270 Karen Tarapata: What I see is that we're going to keep the public hearing open until next month. 565 01:05:49.050 --> 01:06:01.410 Karen Tarapata: I don't see because we did receive so many comments today that the Board has not had a chance to review my originally I plan to read the comments until I realized I had over 30 pages today. 566 01:06:01.980 --> 01:06:16.200 Karen Tarapata: Oh really this morning and then received another 30 today that it makes much more sense to have them available for the public to review and for us to review your comments to perhaps propose a. 567 01:06:18.570 --> 01:06:32.670 Karen Tarapata: Changes if the board feels good and we're and really try and make this a law that is the middle way for all of us, because we are a small community, this is, this is a difficult task, you can see. 568 01:06:33.390 --> 01:06:44.160 Karen Tarapata: Why other communities haven't done anything, or they have them and they don't they only enforce them very infrequently we're really hoping to have something that we can use to build compliance. 569 01:06:45.690 --> 01:06:52.560 Karen Tarapata: But yes, they finally I I don't see how we could possibly close this public hearing tonight there's too many issues open. 570 01:06:53.730 --> 01:06:56.100 carol.lusignan@sesame.org: Okay, thank you, thank you Carol. 571 01:06:57.600 --> 01:07:01.020 Karen Tarapata: All right, Is there anyone else who would like to speak this evening. 572 01:07:05.640 --> 01:07:22.560 Karen Tarapata: All right, I think we're going to have a lot of people reviewing a lot of documents over the next month, and we will continue this public hearing at our main meeting, and please send your your any additional comments you have. 573 01:07:23.640 --> 01:07:25.260 Karen Tarapata: Particularly after reading each other. 574 01:07:26.970 --> 01:07:31.560 Karen Tarapata: messages to us, and I look forward to speaking with you all next month. 575 01:07:35.250 --> 01:07:37.560 Karen Tarapata: Noel Do I need to do anything else to. 576 01:07:37.620 --> 01:07:38.280 Karen Tarapata: Continue the. 577 01:07:38.610 --> 01:07:39.660 Karen Tarapata: Hearing yes. 578 01:07:40.170 --> 01:07:41.010 Jillana Sinnott: Formal motion. 579 01:07:41.610 --> 01:07:42.480 Noelle Wolfson: Here May meeting. 580 01:07:44.160 --> 01:07:50.430 Karen Tarapata: And I regard with with someone make a motion to adjourn this hearing until our main meeting. 581 01:07:52.560 --> 01:07:55.320 Kennon Rothchild: This is, can I move that we. 582 01:07:57.240 --> 01:08:02.820 Kennon Rothchild: adjourn tonight's session and continue the public hearing to our next regular meeting in May. 583 01:08:04.950 --> 01:08:05.790 Karen Tarapata: Can I get a second. 584 01:08:06.390 --> 01:08:07.530 michael esmay: Michael second. 585 01:08:09.570 --> 01:08:10.920 Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye. 586 01:08:13.860 --> 01:08:15.780 sylviajeff: Aye Jeff I. 587 01:08:17.010 --> 01:08:18.030 Laurie Dodge: Like it I. 588 01:08:19.050 --> 01:08:21.240 Laurie Dodge: mean you've done a call for IE. 589 01:08:23.100 --> 01:08:26.970 Karen Tarapata: Here we probably should all right now. 590 01:08:28.950 --> 01:08:33.450 Karen Tarapata: Here we go when you just put this aside for now and. 591 01:08:33.870 --> 01:08:35.880 Kennon Rothchild: Great cutter can meet. 592 01:08:35.970 --> 01:08:36.990 alumni. 593 01:08:39.750 --> 01:08:41.730 Karen Tarapata: wow all right. 594 01:08:44.370 --> 01:08:51.390 Karen Tarapata: Are there were to read the public hearing moaning like well actually the for the continuation of the. 595 01:08:52.620 --> 01:08:55.140 Karen Tarapata: tree preservation law. 596 01:08:55.890 --> 01:08:56.430 sure. 597 01:08:58.050 --> 01:09:08.910 Heather Candella: Please take notice that the board of trustees of the village of upper nyack will hold a public hearing on April 15 2021 at 8pm or as soon practical. 598 01:09:09.270 --> 01:09:19.950 Heather Candella: As a continuation of the public hearing opened on January 21 2021 to consider the adoption of a proposed tree law, the tree preservation law. 599 01:09:20.340 --> 01:09:40.650 Heather Candella: into enacting regulations pertaining to the preservation and removal of trees within the village of upper not the full text of the proposed local law is available on the villages website https colon slash slash www.up or nine X dash and y.us. 600 01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:48.150 Heather Candella: Due to the coven 19 a pandemic, the village Board of Trustees will not be meeting in person. 601 01:09:49.050 --> 01:10:00.990 Heather Candella: In accordance with the applicable executive orders here to issued by the New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo suspending certain provisions of the New York state open meetings law. 602 01:10:01.830 --> 01:10:09.810 Heather Candella: The meeting will be held via video conferencing, and the transcript will be provided at a later date, the public will have the opportunity to see. 603 01:10:10.320 --> 01:10:19.020 Heather Candella: and hear the meeting live and provide comments to access the meeting, please visit the villages website for ID number and password. 604 01:10:19.710 --> 01:10:36.750 Heather Candella: And meeting agenda will be posted on the villages website comments and questions will also can also be provided via email before we before the meeting to Carol G brotherhood village clerk at village clerk at upper nyack dash and y.us dated march 10. 605 01:10:37.980 --> 01:10:39.990 Heather Candella: Carol G brotherhood village work. 606 01:10:41.910 --> 01:10:42.930 All right, thank you. 607 01:10:44.250 --> 01:10:44.850 Karen Tarapata: All right. 608 01:10:46.500 --> 01:10:51.960 Karen Tarapata: I have a statement here notes about the proposed tree preservation local law. 609 01:10:53.100 --> 01:10:59.700 Karen Tarapata: This is a proposed local lodge replace the existing tree maintenance and management regulations in the villages zoning law. 610 01:11:00.690 --> 01:11:10.200 Karen Tarapata: In January the board classify the proposed adoption of this local law as an unlisted action under secret, which is the state and value mental quality. 611 01:11:10.710 --> 01:11:17.580 Karen Tarapata: Review Act adopted a negative declaration of environmental significance and open the public hearing on the law. 612 01:11:18.480 --> 01:11:32.340 Karen Tarapata: written comments by the village forester was submitted for the January meeting and the law was revised in response to some of those comments additionally the building department has reviewed the proposed law and provided feedback. 613 01:11:33.420 --> 01:11:39.000 Karen Tarapata: By way of background the current law regulates the removal of significant trees in the village. 614 01:11:39.690 --> 01:11:47.910 Karen Tarapata: It defines a significant tree as any tree with a trunk diameter that equals or exceeds 16 inches at breast height. 615 01:11:48.300 --> 01:12:05.790 Karen Tarapata: General good health of such species as achieved a canopy spread the 40 or more feet in diameter upon maturity, depending upon the reason and scope of the tree removal tree removal permits are issued administratively by the building department or by the planning board. 616 01:12:06.930 --> 01:12:14.550 Karen Tarapata: The draft comprehensive plan recommends the village consider comprehensive legislation regarding the regulation of treating. 617 01:12:15.180 --> 01:12:26.730 Karen Tarapata: developing these regulations, following the continued review and adoption of the comprehensive plan and the zoning law changes that will be necessary to implement its terms will take time and careful analysis. 618 01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:35.640 Karen Tarapata: In the meantime, there are many mature and valuable trees that fall below the threshold of the current definition of significant tree. 619 01:12:36.240 --> 01:12:46.890 Karen Tarapata: That in many circumstances can be removed, for any reason, with no administrative review once removed these mature trees are not easily or quickly replaced. 620 01:12:47.610 --> 01:13:05.370 Karen Tarapata: The primary objective of the local law is to redefine what constitutes a significant tree to cast a broader net of trees, subject to review prior to their removal during the period before the more comprehensive tree regulations contemplated by the comprehensive plan can be developed. 621 01:13:06.420 --> 01:13:13.470 Karen Tarapata: As originally proposed, the local law expanded the types of trees, subject to review prior to the removal. 622 01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:22.620 Karen Tarapata: To include trees, with a diameter at breast height of 12 inches or greater generally or eight inches or greater on steep slopes. 623 01:13:23.310 --> 01:13:32.280 Karen Tarapata: Since the January draft, the definition of significant tree has been revised to also include as a significant tree any tree. 624 01:13:32.730 --> 01:13:42.240 Karen Tarapata: With a db H, which is the diameter at press tight with a db age of eight inches or greater that is located within 100 feet of the Hudson river. 625 01:13:42.840 --> 01:14:01.800 Karen Tarapata: or with a local state or federally designated wetland removal of trees in a significant standard trees, meaning five or more trees have the same or similar species that form the same drip line with a gbh of six inches or greater would also be subject to review before they can be removed. 626 01:14:03.000 --> 01:14:07.530 Karen Tarapata: Another substantive change the prior version of the local law reviewed in January. 627 01:14:08.160 --> 01:14:15.210 Karen Tarapata: Is that the number of trees that may be removed, with a permit from the building department in any two year period has been increased. 628 01:14:15.900 --> 01:14:33.120 Karen Tarapata: As originally drafted the law permitted the removal of two significant trees, with a db age of 16 inches or smaller whether or 16 inches or larger with a tree removal met certain requirements on any lot in a two year period. 629 01:14:35.220 --> 01:14:43.950 Karen Tarapata: As currently proposed, the number of trees that can be removed, with the building department or of it has been increased to allow within any two year period. 630 01:14:44.550 --> 01:14:54.330 Karen Tarapata: To significant tree or trees within a significant stand trees within certain size limitations if they're in a healthy condition and meet certain other requirements. 631 01:14:54.750 --> 01:15:08.370 Karen Tarapata: or of any size if they're determined to be dead or dying by the village forester and three additional significant tree or trees within a significant standard trees that are determined to be dead or dying by the village forester. 632 01:15:09.930 --> 01:15:18.030 Karen Tarapata: Such that in any two year period, as many as five significant trees can be removed from a lot without planning forward review. 633 01:15:19.110 --> 01:15:29.430 Karen Tarapata: I want to point out that, in the version of the last circulated to the board and posted on the website, in the section specifying which types of treatment Google permits may be issued by the building department. 634 01:15:29.940 --> 01:15:37.620 Karen Tarapata: and which must be reviewed by the planning board section 2.2 point 1.2 contains a typographical error. 635 01:15:38.340 --> 01:15:48.210 Karen Tarapata: It says that to significant tree or trees within the significant stand of trees within a db age of 13 inches or larger if they're in a healthy condition take. 636 01:15:49.110 --> 01:16:10.200 Karen Tarapata: A lot in any two year period, but it's meant to say 13 inches or smaller so removal of all healthy trees larger than 13 inches gbh would have to be removed reviewed by the planning for word, if this law is put to a vote tonight, I propose we incorporate that one correction. 637 01:16:11.370 --> 01:16:20.190 Karen Tarapata: In addition to these substantive changes the version reviewed in January, there have been some modifications to the procedural portions of the law. 638 01:16:21.210 --> 01:16:27.030 Karen Tarapata: Those changes were made in response to comments from the village forester and from the building department. 639 01:16:28.740 --> 01:16:36.150 Karen Tarapata: To as best as given the new substantive provisions align the language of the law, with the current processes of the building department. 640 01:16:36.990 --> 01:16:45.750 Karen Tarapata: The most significant procedural change from the January version of the law is it when a tree removal permit is within the planning boards jurisdiction. 641 01:16:46.290 --> 01:16:55.770 Karen Tarapata: The Board is permitted, but not required to hold a public hearing on the application, whereas in the January version of the law it public hearing was required. 642 01:16:56.370 --> 01:17:03.660 Karen Tarapata: The intent behind this change is to make the planning board review of both remove tree removal permit applications for streamlined. 643 01:17:04.650 --> 01:17:16.230 Karen Tarapata: With that general summary of the proposed law and how it differs from the one we discussed in January, I will open it up to comments or questions from board members and then the public. 644 01:17:19.380 --> 01:17:24.480 Karen Tarapata: All right, but any board members like to comment on this before we open this up. 645 01:17:25.170 --> 01:17:26.610 Karen Tarapata: To the public comment. 646 01:17:30.630 --> 01:17:30.840 Karen Tarapata: Right. 647 01:17:31.920 --> 01:17:33.210 Laurie Dodge: With someone right. 648 01:17:33.300 --> 01:17:51.750 Laurie Dodge: Okay laurie, the only thing I would like to say, or that I am going to say is that it, it seems to me and I read it i've read it, a couple of times, I still haven't absorbed it all, and maybe i'm just being dense but it's it seems very long and complicated and that's all I will. 649 01:17:52.890 --> 01:17:53.430 I will say. 650 01:17:55.560 --> 01:17:55.860 All right. 651 01:17:57.360 --> 01:18:02.220 Karen Tarapata: Oh alright, so I would like to open so i'm going to make a motion to open the public hearing. 652 01:18:04.230 --> 01:18:07.650 Laurie Dodge: i'll make a motion that we open the public hearing sorry. 653 01:18:09.300 --> 01:18:10.110 Karen Tarapata: Can I get a second. 654 01:18:12.660 --> 01:18:13.740 Kennon Rothchild: We both did so. 655 01:18:14.940 --> 01:18:15.360 William?s iPhone: Okay. 656 01:18:16.230 --> 01:18:18.390 Karen Tarapata: What makes a second maybe. 657 01:18:19.740 --> 01:18:20.910 sylviajeff: Perhaps can. 658 01:18:21.690 --> 01:18:22.440 Kennon Rothchild: just said, can. 659 01:18:25.260 --> 01:18:26.610 Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye. 660 01:18:27.270 --> 01:18:27.990 Laurie Dodge: Aye laurie. 661 01:18:28.530 --> 01:18:29.130 Kennon Rothchild: I can. 662 01:18:29.550 --> 01:18:30.180 I just. 663 01:18:34.200 --> 01:18:42.900 Karen Tarapata: I can alright, the public hearing is open, I see that Joanna Scott, so not have has raised her hand to speak my head. 664 01:18:43.650 --> 01:18:53.340 Jillana Sinnott: Okay, two things one, I think, going from the measurement that we have now down to 12 or 13 inches whichever it is. 665 01:18:54.270 --> 01:19:03.690 Jillana Sinnott: i'm not really happy with it seems like a drastic change, but my one thing to the board as a planning board Secretary. 666 01:19:04.650 --> 01:19:14.610 Jillana Sinnott: Hopefully this before the law, gets passed, we can figure out everything and how this is going to work going to the planning board, because it seems like a lot of things. 667 01:19:15.030 --> 01:19:21.030 Jillana Sinnott: are going to be coming to the planning board and I don't want the same thing to happen that happened with the new air be law. 668 01:19:21.540 --> 01:19:28.680 Jillana Sinnott: That it went on it's going on for months and we still don't have anything resolved, it just puts a lot on the village. 669 01:19:29.250 --> 01:19:43.680 Jillana Sinnott: To the planning board to have to come up with and get all these extra permits and they're already booked solid, so I hope the board takes into consideration what this is going to do, and what the criteria is to go to the planning board. 670 01:19:47.010 --> 01:19:55.380 Karen Tarapata: My only response would be that this was developed with input from the planning board chairman, in addition to the village Forrester and building department. 671 01:19:55.860 --> 01:20:06.780 Karen Tarapata: But I do understand that the amount of work that the amount of applications, the numbers sheer number of applications that are coming to Orlando sports is increasing daily. 672 01:20:08.340 --> 01:20:12.060 Karen Tarapata: Is there anyone else who would like to speak on this issue tonight. 673 01:20:13.110 --> 01:20:14.040 from the public. 674 01:20:19.320 --> 01:20:20.610 Karen Tarapata: Is that Peggy is that you. 675 01:20:22.020 --> 01:20:23.190 Karen Tarapata: have to unmute yourself. 676 01:20:27.270 --> 01:20:29.640 Peggy Kurtz: oops sorry I forgot to put my. 677 01:20:31.680 --> 01:20:32.220 Peggy Kurtz: earphones. 678 01:20:36.630 --> 01:20:41.610 Peggy Kurtz: First, what I hope you got my comments the comments from marcy the anchor and I forwarded. 679 01:20:43.680 --> 01:20:46.860 Karen Tarapata: i'm going to read those people at once people on the call. 680 01:20:48.030 --> 01:20:52.740 Peggy Kurtz: Okay, so i'm kind of basing my comments on hers i'm hardly an expert on. 681 01:20:53.370 --> 01:21:02.370 Peggy Kurtz: On trees, I know that many, many people in the village feel very strongly about trees, as I do too it's just heartbreaking when we see trees cleared that. 682 01:21:02.940 --> 01:21:09.180 Peggy Kurtz: did not need to come down, we will not understand that if you're constructing a new house, there may be some trees that come down. 683 01:21:09.870 --> 01:21:17.760 Peggy Kurtz: But it just adds so much to the quality of life of everybody in the village to have those trees, as well as the environmental benefits that. 684 01:21:18.360 --> 01:21:27.450 Peggy Kurtz: I just you know, want to make sure that we are doing whatever we can to minimize taking down trees and to minimize also taking down. 685 01:21:28.050 --> 01:21:37.920 Peggy Kurtz: native trees mature trees and replacing them with some sort of clones that are kind of I don't know what to call them landscaping clones they're just really not. 686 01:21:38.490 --> 01:21:55.500 Peggy Kurtz: they're not the right thing for the environment for shade for resilience for wildlife so that's that's kind of really my thoughts, so I am in favor of reducing the gbh I think that I think that's a good thing. 687 01:21:56.610 --> 01:22:03.330 Peggy Kurtz: We need the younger generation of trees that are going to grow up into those beautiful mature trees that we all love so much. 688 01:22:05.370 --> 01:22:14.340 Peggy Kurtz: i'm not quite sure that I understand there's one page we're 16 inches is mentioned in section 2.1. 689 01:22:15.630 --> 01:22:24.210 Peggy Kurtz: To say it's 2.2 point 1.3 I don't really understand why it's his 16. 690 01:22:25.290 --> 01:22:35.100 Peggy Kurtz: inch gbh there so that's just kind of a question I also don't understand why increase the number of trees that can be removed if anything. 691 01:22:36.630 --> 01:22:48.480 Peggy Kurtz: I know many of us would like to see a decrease in the number of cheese that can be removed and then the final thing is just I know marcy had suggested. 692 01:22:49.020 --> 01:23:01.560 Peggy Kurtz: Having recommended list of trees, so that we can avoid having those kind of landscaping close i'm sorry I don't know what else to call them and have trees that are more resilient. 693 01:23:02.190 --> 01:23:09.150 Peggy Kurtz: We know that when the trees are not resilient there can be physical harm to property, unfortunately, even death. 694 01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:21.150 Peggy Kurtz: And, of course, the loss of trees and we know that the weather is likely, going to be more extreme we're going to see more of the extreme wind and flooding and all of that so. 695 01:23:22.440 --> 01:23:33.150 Peggy Kurtz: I would even like to suggest that maybe we could develop I know Ben called and has also put in work on developing list which may be using some of these lists of trees and. 696 01:23:34.110 --> 01:23:48.960 Peggy Kurtz: requiring that replacements be from you know give people a large list of possibilities, but you know just require that it P from from that list that could be developed. 697 01:23:50.580 --> 01:23:52.650 Peggy Kurtz: That goes from my comments yeah. 698 01:23:53.250 --> 01:24:02.010 Karen Tarapata: Thank you Peggy that's really a part of the landscaping plan of the site plan review and I think there is some discussion of. 699 01:24:03.690 --> 01:24:11.640 Karen Tarapata: Encouraging certain certain species, I think you may see that later as the zoning code update is presented. 700 01:24:12.150 --> 01:24:21.960 Peggy Kurtz: So, should that be part of should that you know encouragement or incentive or requirement should that be part of the law is what i'm asking. 701 01:24:22.650 --> 01:24:25.590 Karen Tarapata: This is not a lot about planting trees, I would say. 702 01:24:25.650 --> 01:24:28.740 Karen Tarapata: If it makes sense to put that language in the park that. 703 01:24:29.820 --> 01:24:34.740 Karen Tarapata: is involved in site plan Google and landscape plan of approval. 704 01:24:34.830 --> 01:24:36.330 Peggy Kurtz: OK OK, I defer to. 705 01:24:37.140 --> 01:24:37.320 Peggy Kurtz: know. 706 01:24:37.980 --> 01:24:40.170 Peggy Kurtz: yeah yeah yeah it's good. 707 01:24:40.230 --> 01:24:43.680 Karen Tarapata: it's good to know that it's good to hear your concerns. 708 01:24:44.040 --> 01:24:54.300 Peggy Kurtz: Okay, all right Thank you so much, and I just want to thank the board for all their work on this ordinance and the and the last one, the leaf blowers, I know how much hard work goes into it. 709 01:24:55.680 --> 01:24:56.100 Thank you. 710 01:24:57.180 --> 01:25:00.690 Karen Tarapata: Is there anyone else who would like to speak on this topic tonight. 711 01:25:02.250 --> 01:25:11.640 sylviajeff: Actually Karen I have a question I probably should know this, since i'm a trustee but uh your expertise and having gone through this. 712 01:25:12.750 --> 01:25:19.620 sylviajeff: may be better people to address it, because I don't know the answer and I was looking at some of the letters that were released today. 713 01:25:20.130 --> 01:25:36.690 sylviajeff: Is there any way it may already be in there, that if somebody has a problematic or a dangerous or a dead tree on their property that it could be fast tracked instead of potentially having to wait to be you know go through different meetings at different levels. 714 01:25:37.740 --> 01:25:52.200 Karen Tarapata: Fast emergency that's one reason why we have the village Forrester, there are provisions for anything that is a hazard that's not prevent it from from being addressed and well i'm correct on that. 715 01:25:52.740 --> 01:26:05.190 Noelle Wolfson: Sure, so if you were to look at Article three, there are exceptions to the permitting requirements for trees that represent an imminent peril and trees that are an emergency situation. 716 01:26:05.610 --> 01:26:12.060 Noelle Wolfson: which can be removed without a permit, there is a post removal permitting files that we have a record. 717 01:26:12.540 --> 01:26:24.780 Noelle Wolfson: To make sure you know that that the removals or bonafide and that there's that it's documented but there's nothing to prohibit you from removing those that have permit in those emergency situations, they are exempt from in set forth an article. 718 01:26:27.030 --> 01:26:35.220 sylviajeff: And you know well, I appreciate that, especially since one of the main main concerns came from somebody on my block, so I just wanted to have in my head. 719 01:26:36.540 --> 01:26:37.890 sylviajeff: How that can be dressed. 720 01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:40.200 Karen Tarapata: hey you have your hand up. 721 01:26:40.320 --> 01:26:47.070 Peggy Kurtz: yeah can you explain why is why increase the number of trees that can be removed in that two year period. 722 01:26:49.650 --> 01:26:53.070 Karen Tarapata: No, why would you like to help me help me explain the reasoning, why that. 723 01:26:53.550 --> 01:27:01.290 Noelle Wolfson: Sure, so the thought behind that was that the number of trees, is to healthy trees within the time within the size limit. 724 01:27:01.560 --> 01:27:10.080 Noelle Wolfson: And the increase comes in the number of dead or dying tree, so that it is easier to remove dead and dying trees, although when you're moving when you start to remove. 725 01:27:10.410 --> 01:27:14.520 Noelle Wolfson: Five, and you know six and upwards, you know, perhaps at that point in time. 726 01:27:15.060 --> 01:27:29.610 Noelle Wolfson: You want to consider a replanting plan, along with the removal of that scale, which is why more than five in a two year period would go to the planning board review, but why we up that number, because the the number should be a little bit larger for the dead and dying trees. 727 01:27:29.970 --> 01:27:30.960 Peggy Kurtz: That makes sense to me. 728 01:27:32.070 --> 01:27:32.910 Peggy Kurtz: That makes sense. 729 01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:53.280 Karen Tarapata: And the reason for sending it to the planning board is to establish a replanting program So if you let's say you do want to clear a part of your property for a pool or a big patio that would be part of your site plan and the replanting would be part of that whole site plan approval. 730 01:27:56.370 --> 01:28:00.390 Karen Tarapata: Okay, so Is there anyone else who would like to speak on this tonight. 731 01:28:02.850 --> 01:28:03.990 Karen Tarapata: All right, no else. 732 01:28:04.200 --> 01:28:05.850 William?s iPhone: We only have two letters, but. 733 01:28:06.330 --> 01:28:16.800 Karen Tarapata: One really quite extensive should I read the two letters that the trustees have in their possession you feel that that is important to do this evening. 734 01:28:17.250 --> 01:28:22.380 Noelle Wolfson: And I can do, you can put it to the board if they feel if they've read them and understand them, and they can be made a. 735 01:28:22.380 --> 01:28:26.190 Noelle Wolfson: Part of the record then it's not necessary to read the full text. 736 01:28:26.220 --> 01:28:36.450 Noelle Wolfson: Next summarize them or if you'd like to hear the full text you may but everybody has had a chance to read them and review them and understand them isn't necessary to read them inverted. 737 01:28:38.850 --> 01:28:49.020 Karen Tarapata: So what does the word thing, which is what do you want to hear me read the two tree, the two letters about the tree preservation law, or should we just enter them into the record. 738 01:28:49.470 --> 01:28:52.410 Laurie Dodge: Karen what was the second letter I only have the one letter. 739 01:28:52.410 --> 01:28:53.670 Karen Tarapata: From Peter bardot archie. 740 01:28:54.270 --> 01:28:56.100 Karen Tarapata: The other one is from marcy anchor. 741 01:28:56.730 --> 01:28:57.600 Laurie Dodge: Is I don't have that. 742 01:28:59.010 --> 01:29:03.030 Karen Tarapata: it's about the recommended trees for replanting. 743 01:29:03.810 --> 01:29:04.110 Okay. 744 01:29:06.630 --> 01:29:08.970 Karen Tarapata: i'm surprised you didn't have it it's in the packet. 745 01:29:10.410 --> 01:29:12.390 Karen Tarapata: it's right after Peters lab. 746 01:29:14.430 --> 01:29:19.680 Laurie Dodge: I didn't get that one I had it doesn't matter I mean I can I can look it up later. 747 01:29:21.600 --> 01:29:22.440 Karen Tarapata: What do you think. 748 01:29:22.980 --> 01:29:28.230 Peggy Kurtz: Karen I just want to suggest that if you want to read it, that you identify marcy with her credentials. 749 01:29:28.950 --> 01:29:29.640 Karen Tarapata: Yes, I would. 750 01:29:31.800 --> 01:29:33.480 Karen Tarapata: read the letter i'll read the entire letter. 751 01:29:33.600 --> 01:29:34.170 Peggy Kurtz: Okay, great. 752 01:29:35.670 --> 01:29:39.300 Laurie Dodge: I mean Peters letter is really his his letters really long. 753 01:29:39.330 --> 01:29:39.900 18456426153: I mean I. 754 01:29:40.020 --> 01:29:40.830 He makes. 755 01:29:42.510 --> 01:29:43.200 Karen Tarapata: Peter when I. 756 01:29:43.440 --> 01:29:45.900 18456426153: read that Peter contacted the village. 757 01:29:46.410 --> 01:29:48.810 Karen Tarapata: objecting to the administrative fee. 758 01:29:48.870 --> 01:29:49.980 For a teenager. 759 01:29:51.600 --> 01:29:54.090 Karen Tarapata: And that is his. 760 01:29:54.450 --> 01:29:55.110 18456426153: response. 761 01:29:56.070 --> 01:30:05.640 Karen Tarapata: I believe that that is his his biggest concern, but if you think that it is it wise, I will read the letters I will read the three pages. 762 01:30:08.250 --> 01:30:09.720 Karen Tarapata: I think perhaps as but. 763 01:30:10.770 --> 01:30:12.270 Laurie Dodge: I mean I don't know it's a very. 764 01:30:14.190 --> 01:30:14.520 Karen Tarapata: well. 765 01:30:14.850 --> 01:30:15.960 Karen Tarapata: Right now, and. 766 01:30:17.190 --> 01:30:25.470 Karen Tarapata: makes more sense for me to just read it, so let me just do it now, and we will have it on the record subject comments on proposed tree law. 767 01:30:26.700 --> 01:30:32.790 Karen Tarapata: mayor turn upon it, you know here are my thoughts comments on the proposed revisions to the tree. 768 01:30:36.930 --> 01:30:47.580 Karen Tarapata: One is very current problem and Upper neck with people indiscriminately chopping down trees I grew up there 28 years and never noticed a problem, but perhaps things that change. 769 01:30:48.150 --> 01:30:56.100 Karen Tarapata: Is this revised tree law, a solution looking for a problem to, in my opinion, the law is far too complicated and lengthy. 770 01:30:56.640 --> 01:31:06.360 Karen Tarapata: The property owners to read through 13 pages of complex legal language to understand what can and can't be done on their property in regard to trees. 771 01:31:07.050 --> 01:31:13.080 Karen Tarapata: Note that the distinct tree law is five pages long, what has changed to require so much more language. 772 01:31:13.770 --> 01:31:27.540 Karen Tarapata: it's great if a property resident property owner wants needs to remove a dead tree that poses a public threat the village should be encouraging this the law does anything but that charging $60 to get permission to. 773 01:31:27.540 --> 01:31:32.790 Karen Tarapata: Do this had prudently discouraged me and will presumably discourage others from doing the. 774 01:31:32.790 --> 01:31:39.750 Karen Tarapata: Things wouldn't it make more sense to waive the fee and the circumstances being that the tree removal is for the. 775 01:31:39.750 --> 01:31:44.040 Karen Tarapata: Public, you will recall that a tree killed someone on broadway. 776 01:31:44.520 --> 01:31:55.050 Karen Tarapata: The large room that recently fell off of my tree landed about three feet on the street, where cars are often part for walkers going to the book, which is a problem that does need a solution. 777 01:31:55.980 --> 01:32:07.560 Karen Tarapata: For with such complex regulations and processes, as well as the permit thing property owners will be more likely to ignore the law and simply have trees removed without getting a permit. 778 01:32:08.130 --> 01:32:18.090 Karen Tarapata: The tree on my property needs to be removed, it is dead it overhangs the House and large lambs have already fallen off of it, thankfully, no nobody was harmed. 779 01:32:18.720 --> 01:32:27.930 Karen Tarapata: There is no question needs to go, and I do not need a New York state certified arborist or the village forester to waste his her time coming to my property. 780 01:32:28.260 --> 01:32:30.390 18456426153: To confirm the blatantly obvious. 781 01:32:30.690 --> 01:32:31.650 Karen Tarapata: I am an adult. 782 01:32:31.680 --> 01:32:40.020 Karen Tarapata: And can make decisions on what's best for my property five has anyone looked at the population of treating Google permit requests. 783 01:32:40.410 --> 01:32:48.330 Karen Tarapata: What is the ratio of premise requested versus permits granted for removal of trees, I would be interested in knowing this information. 784 01:32:48.690 --> 01:32:53.760 Karen Tarapata: And I would hope the Board has the data available before adopting any revisions to the law. 785 01:32:54.690 --> 01:33:04.770 Karen Tarapata: Six, what is the villages liability if they reject the treatment of a request and that tree that falls and damages a property or worse names or kill someone. 786 01:33:05.280 --> 01:33:13.650 Karen Tarapata: Should you the village be in the business of deciding what trees can be removed and, if so, does that then shift liability to the village. 787 01:33:14.370 --> 01:33:29.790 Karen Tarapata: Seven, it is my understanding that one of the proposed revisions to the law is to make it more restricted the diameter of trees meeting permitting is proposed to be reduced, what is prompted this tightening of the restrictions see question number one. 788 01:33:31.200 --> 01:33:44.130 Karen Tarapata: Eight section 2.2 point one standards and criteria under what circumstances with the code enforcement official CEO not have jurisdiction over an application for a tree permit. 789 01:33:44.610 --> 01:33:49.470 Karen Tarapata: Would it be easier to say that all tree removals fall under the jurisdiction of the CEO. 790 01:33:49.950 --> 01:33:56.820 Karen Tarapata: What is the purpose of involving both the village forester and the CEO, particularly when dead dangerous trees are involved. 791 01:33:57.300 --> 01:34:03.720 Karen Tarapata: Does the CEO at any value when the village forest or I had already determined that the tree is dead and must be removed. 792 01:34:04.470 --> 01:34:10.560 Karen Tarapata: See number four in regards to requirement for village forest or arborist approve the dead tree removal. 793 01:34:11.430 --> 01:34:23.700 Karen Tarapata: Section 2.2 point 1.1 I have read this section multiple times and do not understand it, I suspect, most most others would struggle as well, is there a way to clarify or simplify. 794 01:34:24.420 --> 01:34:33.510 Karen Tarapata: Section 2.2 Point two planning board pb perhaps I am misunderstanding this section, but, as I understand it, as the last rent. 795 01:34:34.080 --> 01:34:42.000 Karen Tarapata: A property owner may need to appear before the planning board simply to remove dead trees, if there are multiple significant trees to be removed. 796 01:34:42.420 --> 01:34:52.650 Karen Tarapata: And or these trees are located within a significant stand of trees, as anyone consider the impact on property owners of forcing a tree permit applicant to go to the planning for it. 797 01:34:53.280 --> 01:34:58.170 Karen Tarapata: The applicant will have to wait until the next scheduled planning board meeting which could be up to a month away. 798 01:34:58.920 --> 01:35:04.320 Karen Tarapata: It can often be the case that houses purchase and the former owners did not maintain their property. 799 01:35:04.740 --> 01:35:11.490 Karen Tarapata: And, as a result, many dead or dangerous trees, need to be taken care of by the new owner, through no fault of their own. 800 01:35:12.210 --> 01:35:21.960 Karen Tarapata: They may need to wait over a month to get the necessary permit unless there is some way for tree permits to be issued by the planning board outside of the public meeting process. 801 01:35:22.470 --> 01:35:30.900 Karen Tarapata: At the heart of the matter is the question should the planning board be involved in this type of situation at all, is this the planning boards function and purview. 802 01:35:31.440 --> 01:35:40.650 Karen Tarapata: Perhaps if a developer is building a new House as part of the site plan approval some trees, need to be removed when the planning board would be involved as part of their normal function. 803 01:35:41.190 --> 01:35:50.220 Karen Tarapata: But, as I understand it, the planning board would need to get involved, even if the only request by the applicant is treating with them, this seems overly burdensome. 804 01:35:55.800 --> 01:36:01.590 Karen Tarapata: For the property owner, and I would ask you to perhaps reconsider this requirement. 805 01:36:04.230 --> 01:36:14.190 Karen Tarapata: If my understanding is correct, if my understanding is not correct, then perhaps the proposed law could be improved by clarifying the language so that is understandable to all. 806 01:36:15.480 --> 01:36:29.430 Karen Tarapata: Section 2.3 point one, why does a property owner need to provide a letter from a certified arborist isn't that why the village has a village Forrester, this is overly burdensome on the property owner, particularly what if the tree is dead. 807 01:36:30.930 --> 01:36:32.460 Karen Tarapata: saying what does filing in the. 808 01:36:33.480 --> 01:36:36.810 Karen Tarapata: What does filing in the office mean should this be more specific. 809 01:36:38.880 --> 01:36:47.700 Karen Tarapata: For tree removal of every 13 for tree removal that requires planning board review if my understanding of 2.2 Point two is correct. 810 01:36:48.150 --> 01:36:52.920 Karen Tarapata: An applicant will be required to provide a site plan prepared by a qualified professional. 811 01:36:53.700 --> 01:36:58.950 Karen Tarapata: This is overly burdensome and costly for property owners, if all they are requesting as treatment move on. 812 01:36:59.640 --> 01:37:15.390 Karen Tarapata: If it's part of a larger project than a site plan would be a requirement, but it should not be simply for tree removal, in my opinion 14 section 2.3 point one point to this will add up to 18 days to a tree removal process. 813 01:37:16.470 --> 01:37:23.760 Karen Tarapata: up to seven business days for inspection by the bonus Forrester, up to seven business days report from the village Forrester, plus weekends. 814 01:37:24.330 --> 01:37:30.360 Karen Tarapata: The totally laps time for a property owner to appear before the planning board could then be 48 days over so. 815 01:37:30.870 --> 01:37:35.280 Karen Tarapata: This seems excessive and could create an unnecessary hardship for property owners. 816 01:37:35.940 --> 01:37:45.270 Karen Tarapata: dangerous conditions could also be present, which I would hope the village would not want to perpetuate for that length of time, surely there's a way to streamline this process. 817 01:37:46.140 --> 01:37:54.870 Karen Tarapata: Section 2.3 Point two sorry this item 15 if a public hearing is required tree removal of this will then delay and remove will even longer. 818 01:37:55.290 --> 01:38:00.750 Karen Tarapata: Due to the need for a preliminary hearing it one meeting, then the opening of a public hearing at the subsequent meeting. 819 01:38:01.440 --> 01:38:12.660 Karen Tarapata: i'm assuming that upper next planning where procedures are the same as Terry towns which require a preliminary hearing to introduce the project that any public hearings would be held at subsequent meetings. 820 01:38:13.770 --> 01:38:21.390 Karen Tarapata: If this is the case tree removal would be with delayed another month section 2.3 point 2.1 point three. 821 01:38:22.020 --> 01:38:30.630 Karen Tarapata: mailings should not be a requirement for tree removal, in my opinion neighbors should have no say on whether trees can be removed on a property owners property. 822 01:38:31.080 --> 01:38:40.020 Karen Tarapata: Particularly if they present a hazard, this is dangerous precedent to allow setting up allowing public input on removing trees on someone else's property. 823 01:38:40.710 --> 01:38:49.290 Karen Tarapata: If it has to go before the planning Board, which I am strongly opposed to the decision should be made by planning board members with no input or influence from the public. 824 01:38:50.490 --> 01:39:01.440 Karen Tarapata: Section 2.3 point 4.1 point 130 days so Surely we can shorten this window maximum should be two weeks to allow for vacations. 825 01:39:02.280 --> 01:39:13.590 Karen Tarapata: 18 section 2.3 point 4.1 to 62 days for planning board approval, this means it could theoretically take over 300 days to get approval to remove trees. 826 01:39:13.980 --> 01:39:23.130 Karen Tarapata: I hope you recognize that this is unacceptable, particularly if the trees, present a hazard multiple severe weather events can occur within this time frame. 827 01:39:23.550 --> 01:39:30.630 Karen Tarapata: What happens if one of the trees proposed to be removed falls and names or kill someone with a property owner is waiting for approval. 828 01:39:31.140 --> 01:39:40.650 Karen Tarapata: Is there culpability on the villages part, could the village be sued number 19 section 2.3 point 4.1 point three. 829 01:39:41.310 --> 01:39:56.370 Karen Tarapata: What happens if the planning board goes to deny the tree removal and one of these trees falls and means or kill someone or causes property damage is the village libel, with the board of trustees and planning board member want this on their conscience. 830 01:39:57.510 --> 01:40:08.490 Karen Tarapata: Number 20 section 2.3 point 4.3 point one who is responsible for ensuring these conditions are being met, does the village have the resources for this. 831 01:40:09.030 --> 01:40:20.760 Karen Tarapata: And what is the estimated cost per year to achieve this well whoever is responsible for ensuring these conditions are met, be checking every tree removal site on everyday work is being performed. 832 01:40:21.480 --> 01:40:28.320 Karen Tarapata: How will this be documented, if not could this result in selective enforcement of accusations of bias. 833 01:40:29.610 --> 01:40:38.700 Karen Tarapata: 21 section 2.3 point 4.3 point two, this is an overreach of the part of the village law, many people like trees some do not. 834 01:40:39.060 --> 01:40:48.480 Karen Tarapata: A property owners should not be required to replace trees that have been removed, unless they want to you can encourage tree replacement but requiring, it is not right. 835 01:40:48.900 --> 01:41:01.140 Karen Tarapata: i'd like to understand what motivates a village, with more than enough trees to require this isn't legal to require a two to one replacement ratio, what will come in the next amendment to the tree law where will it end. 836 01:41:02.310 --> 01:41:09.060 Karen Tarapata: fundamental question is, why are we imposing additional burden of property owners, is there a problem and Upper nyack. 837 01:41:09.540 --> 01:41:19.620 Karen Tarapata: I live 28 years of my life there, and when I was not living there, I visited two or three times a week to me, there has never been a problem with indiscriminate trees. 838 01:41:20.280 --> 01:41:25.590 Karen Tarapata: If you can present evidence to the contrary, than perhaps my opinion on the proposed amendment will change. 839 01:41:25.920 --> 01:41:32.880 Karen Tarapata: But, as it stands, the tree law should remain as it is and no more time should be spent on trying to revise it or improve it. 840 01:41:33.510 --> 01:41:44.760 Karen Tarapata: The existing law is perfectly adequate and, in my view, has worked fine for many years, one that that I asked that you do make is to waive the fee removing dead or dangerous trees. 841 01:41:45.180 --> 01:41:52.920 Karen Tarapata: Property owners should be encouraged to do the responsible thing charging 50 or $60 does not promote this behavior. 842 01:41:53.430 --> 01:42:09.660 Karen Tarapata: I am disappointed that I will be unable to attend the public hearing due to a prior commitment, so I would appreciate a written response to the questions I had asked, as well as the villages position on the issues I highlighted respectfully Peter Bart elachi owner of 105 this drive. 843 01:42:11.610 --> 01:42:21.240 Karen Tarapata: I do have a response for this, but let me read the other letter first and then we can close the public hearing and I get my response. 844 01:42:22.050 --> 01:42:23.220 William?s iPhone: This is a letter. 845 01:42:24.720 --> 01:42:29.250 Karen Tarapata: All right, Dr Mayer and Tara pata and board members. 846 01:42:30.990 --> 01:42:37.110 Karen Tarapata: I want to thank this is from Peggy kurtz I want to thank you for your work to strengthen the tree ordinance and every night. 847 01:42:37.800 --> 01:42:46.650 Karen Tarapata: I was concerned about the size of the trees, which is stipulated in the proposed ordinance I reached out to marcy Decker sustainability coordinator in nyack. 848 01:42:47.190 --> 01:43:01.260 Karen Tarapata: For her input on the proposed tree ordinance marcy overseeing is nine X tree planting program she is a certified landscape designer with a master of landscape architecture Sunni college of environmental science and forestry. 849 01:43:02.190 --> 01:43:12.000 Karen Tarapata: largely suggest stipulating a smaller size, the stipulation in ordinance need to protect the smaller trees, which come the canopy of mature trees. 850 01:43:13.500 --> 01:43:21.690 Karen Tarapata: I, like her idea about a recommended or required list, we know that some species of trees have been particularly vulnerable to extreme storms. 851 01:43:22.200 --> 01:43:34.560 Karen Tarapata: More climate resilience trees will be less vulnerable and less likely to cause destruction in future storms, the list also puts the emphasis on native trees, which will provide habitat and food for wildlife. 852 01:43:35.670 --> 01:43:37.980 Karen Tarapata: Now this is mostly dangerous letter. 853 01:43:40.170 --> 01:43:48.060 Karen Tarapata: I looked at the tree ordinance I don't know how things actually are done an offer night but in nyack the tree replacement part is something we have struggled with. 854 01:43:48.690 --> 01:43:53.670 Karen Tarapata: I suspected following up on those replacements plantings may not always happen. 855 01:43:54.660 --> 01:44:03.330 Karen Tarapata: The planning board refers applications to our list of recommended species, which has a note that night always already has more maples than we are. 856 01:44:03.900 --> 01:44:18.600 Karen Tarapata: According to the 10 2030 rule, which is a guideline to reduce the risk of catastrophic tree loss due to pests, the rule suggests at urban tree population should include no more than 10% of any one species. 857 01:44:20.460 --> 01:44:29.190 Karen Tarapata: 20% of anyone genus and 30% any family, but I think it's really common for people to select maples anyway and not look at the list. 858 01:44:30.510 --> 01:44:40.890 Karen Tarapata: I know that beth colgan was developing a tree list for the village a couple of years ago i'm attaching a sheet with projections on tree vulnerability for tree species in our region. 859 01:44:41.700 --> 01:44:51.180 Karen Tarapata: Just for you to know nice ordinance used to define a significant tree as eight inches db ah, and that was changed when we did the COMP plan. 860 01:44:51.690 --> 01:45:02.250 Karen Tarapata: To 12 inches I see that yours is 16 inch a 12 inch streak and have a significant canopy and for certain trees, it takes quite a long time to reach that size. 861 01:45:03.690 --> 01:45:09.660 Karen Tarapata: Some codes have a special category of heritage tree, too, I hope this helps marcy Decker. 862 01:45:11.940 --> 01:45:17.700 Karen Tarapata: All right, Is there anyone else who would like to speak on the record on this matter at this time. 863 01:45:19.980 --> 01:45:23.820 Karen Tarapata: If not, I would ask someone to make a motion to close the public hearing. 864 01:45:26.100 --> 01:45:26.550 Judith Ryan: Karen. 865 01:45:27.240 --> 01:45:27.750 Karen Tarapata: Yes. 866 01:45:28.260 --> 01:45:29.430 Judith Ryan: I just have one comment. 867 01:45:30.930 --> 01:45:32.460 Judith Ryan: i'm sorry i'm Judy Ryan. 868 01:45:34.320 --> 01:45:42.000 Judith Ryan: My my thought was, and it may not be appropriate, is it is a long. 869 01:45:44.220 --> 01:45:51.090 Judith Ryan: It is a long law, it takes a long time to make your way through it, I don't I don't know if it's if it's possible to create. 870 01:45:51.630 --> 01:46:07.230 Judith Ryan: A shorter law with an addendum of the details, so that if I as a homeowner need to know the essentials or want to know the essentials that some of it can can be an addition. 871 01:46:08.160 --> 01:46:10.110 Judith Ryan: I don't know written like that. 872 01:46:11.520 --> 01:46:22.320 Karen Tarapata: I have an answer for you that I think also answers a great deal of webmaster Bart elachi was concerned about you need to look at Article three, the extensions. 873 01:46:22.830 --> 01:46:39.660 Karen Tarapata: The exemptions, make it very clear the circumstances under which you can remove trees, and I think perhaps because it's not that line I will read that, because this is the most critical part for the majority of Homeowners who are not. 874 01:46:40.830 --> 01:46:50.130 Karen Tarapata: planning a major landscaping change on their property Article three exemptions 3.1 exempt activities. 875 01:46:51.660 --> 01:47:02.220 Karen Tarapata: Notwithstanding the provisions of Section three article to above the following activities shall not require a tree removal permit prior to any tree removal. 876 01:47:03.270 --> 01:47:09.900 Karen Tarapata: 3.1 point one tree removal directed by municipal county state or federal authority pursuant to law. 877 01:47:10.650 --> 01:47:21.090 Karen Tarapata: 3.1 Point two risk reduction pruning maintenance pruning or vista pruning have a significant tree retreat and significant stand of trees. 878 01:47:21.600 --> 01:47:37.080 Karen Tarapata: In a manner that is not harmful to the health of the tree, however topping is not an exempt activity and topping have a significant or otherwise regulated tree should be evaluated as treating removal, pursuant to the terms and requirements of this local law. 879 01:47:38.850 --> 01:47:46.230 Karen Tarapata: 3.1 point three tree removal within the right of way by utility companies for maintenance of utility wires or pipelines. 880 01:47:47.340 --> 01:47:56.970 Karen Tarapata: 3.1 point four tree removal, where the trees to be removed causes a reasonably eminent parallel to the safety of life or property. 881 01:47:57.330 --> 01:48:03.510 Karen Tarapata: as determined by, it is a certified arborist provided that within 24 hours of such removal. 882 01:48:04.020 --> 01:48:12.540 Karen Tarapata: The party removing the tree thousand application for a tree removal permit pursuant to Section three Article 2.3 point 1.1. 883 01:48:13.230 --> 01:48:25.050 Karen Tarapata: Along with a written determination of an is a certified arborist confirming that the tree removal was reasonably necessary to avoid imminent parallel to the safety of life or property. 884 01:48:25.710 --> 01:48:31.920 Karen Tarapata: The village forester may inspect the law, upon which any tree was removed pursuant to this provision. 885 01:48:32.910 --> 01:48:42.630 Karen Tarapata: 3.1 Point five tree removal in an emergency situation, as defined in Section three article 1.1 point five of this local law. 886 01:48:43.140 --> 01:48:54.960 Karen Tarapata: Provided that within 48 hours of such emergency removable the party removing the tree falls an application for a tree removal permit pursuant to Section three Article 2.3 point 1.1. 887 01:48:55.440 --> 01:49:03.870 Karen Tarapata: Along with a written narrative and our photographs establishing that the tree removal on an emergency basis was reasonably necessary. 888 01:49:04.410 --> 01:49:15.060 Karen Tarapata: The village forester they inspect the lot upon which any tree was removed pursuant to this provision so whenever there is a hazard to life or property. 889 01:49:15.990 --> 01:49:27.150 Karen Tarapata: You can remove a dead or dying tree and your tree service would be able to verify that they did that work in a reasonably necessary and that was reasonably. 890 01:49:28.650 --> 01:49:50.100 Karen Tarapata: necessary to do at that time I think what we're trying to avoid is the clear cutting of trees in the village that ends up affecting the hydrology the drainage, it can have a significant effect on everyone down hill. 891 01:49:50.940 --> 01:49:51.690 Karen Tarapata: It isn't just. 892 01:49:51.840 --> 01:50:11.190 Karen Tarapata: I do, what I want on my property because we live in a bowl and everything moves from rich to river and so that is the reason why we have made additional provisions for steeply sloped areas that Jason to the Hudson river and why we really want to. 893 01:50:12.270 --> 01:50:15.120 Karen Tarapata: slow the removal of significant trees. 894 01:50:16.260 --> 01:50:29.520 Karen Tarapata: You know I I initially became involved in village government, because of the removal of the willows along North broadway and the significant drainage that occurred to everyone downhill from there after that. 895 01:50:30.540 --> 01:50:51.330 Karen Tarapata: So this is this law was when they talk about how this is onerous to the planning board, this was developed with extensive input of the planning board chairman and input from our village forester who, by, I must say, is excellent and very he is highly highly trained. 896 01:50:52.710 --> 01:50:54.090 Karen Tarapata: And our billing department. 897 01:50:56.040 --> 01:51:12.270 Karen Tarapata: So I feel that ball, this seems on the face of it to be a complicated law most tree removals are well within the exemptions or can be managed by the planning to buy the building department in a very reasonable period of time. 898 01:51:14.400 --> 01:51:15.780 Karen Tarapata: I hope that answers your question. 899 01:51:17.610 --> 01:51:19.140 Judith Ryan: Thanks Karen very much. 900 01:51:20.460 --> 01:51:20.850 Karen Tarapata: All right. 901 01:51:24.360 --> 01:51:28.320 Karen Tarapata: I would like to ask someone would like to move out and make a motion to. 902 01:51:28.320 --> 01:51:28.680 Karen Tarapata: Close. 903 01:51:28.710 --> 01:51:29.310 public hearing. 904 01:51:30.360 --> 01:51:33.300 18456426153: Karen this is Carol yes Karen. 905 01:51:34.590 --> 01:51:39.450 18456426153: I just needed to remind you that you have the referral from rockland county. 906 01:51:42.240 --> 01:51:42.990 18456426153: That before. 907 01:51:43.170 --> 01:51:44.370 Karen Tarapata: All right, thank you Carol. 908 01:51:44.790 --> 01:51:46.470 18456426153: I will be obese, I thought they were ready. 909 01:51:46.530 --> 01:51:48.240 Karen Tarapata: When we had the previous. 910 01:51:48.780 --> 01:51:53.490 18456426153: Healthcare it, they were, but you know they were about the noise loss of these are two for the tree la. 911 01:51:54.390 --> 01:51:55.260 Karen Tarapata: Oh yes, no, I thought. 912 01:51:55.320 --> 01:51:56.370 18456426153: that's what we have read them. 913 01:51:56.520 --> 01:51:58.470 Karen Tarapata: When we opened the initially opened this. 914 01:51:58.710 --> 01:52:01.470 18456426153: Before we continue no wait a minute. 915 01:52:02.550 --> 01:52:02.970 18456426153: hold on. 916 01:52:06.780 --> 01:52:07.620 Karen Tarapata: January, no. 917 01:52:10.290 --> 01:52:14.340 18456426153: No, they weren't ready yet okay that's fine Thank you my. 918 01:52:14.370 --> 01:52:17.610 18456426153: My arrow, thank you for catching that Carol that's important okay. 919 01:52:18.390 --> 01:52:23.100 Karen Tarapata: Before we close the public hearing, let me see the referrals from the town of flagstaff. 920 01:52:24.360 --> 01:52:37.830 Karen Tarapata: Data January 11 2021 village of upper neck of read tree preservation law, dear miss brotherhood the planning board discuss the above reference better at their January 620 21 meeting. 921 01:52:38.580 --> 01:52:52.710 Karen Tarapata: After a brief discussion on a motion of cats seconded by the action and carried six to zero, which is from time reaction or dano Alberta Lino the planning board of the town of yorktown means the matter for local determination. 922 01:52:53.880 --> 01:53:04.560 Karen Tarapata: Thank you for the opportunity to review and comment on the on this on the comprehensive plan sincerely Gilbert time Chairman likes town planning board. 923 01:53:05.880 --> 01:53:09.630 Karen Tarapata: The other letter is from rockland county department of planning. 924 01:53:11.430 --> 01:53:23.640 Karen Tarapata: It says reason for referral referral state roads state and county parks adjacent municipalities and the long path the county of wrath and department of planning has reviewed. 925 01:53:25.020 --> 01:53:33.870 Karen Tarapata: Acting under the terms of the above GMO powers of those bested by rockland charter one the Commissioner of planning here by approve. 926 01:53:34.560 --> 01:53:42.570 Karen Tarapata: We concur with the villages decision to provide regulations standards and a permit process for the removal of significant trees. 927 01:53:43.080 --> 01:53:55.260 Karen Tarapata: Since the proposed local law will have no adverse impacts on any county wide interests, this matter is remanded for local determination sign Douglas J shoots acting Commissioner planning. 928 01:53:58.320 --> 01:54:02.010 Karen Tarapata: And that I said that was data January 20 2021. 929 01:54:05.610 --> 01:54:08.700 Karen Tarapata: All right, with some make a motion to close the public Eric. 930 01:54:12.210 --> 01:54:14.700 sylviajeff: I will mix motion, though we close this public area. 931 01:54:16.650 --> 01:54:17.400 Thank you jack. 932 01:54:18.450 --> 01:54:19.410 Karen Tarapata: Can I get a second. 933 01:54:20.730 --> 01:54:22.590 Laurie Dodge: l'oreal second lori. 934 01:54:23.430 --> 01:54:24.540 Karen Tarapata: favorite say I. 935 01:54:25.740 --> 01:54:26.400 Kennon Rothchild: Can I. 936 01:54:28.890 --> 01:54:31.290 Laurie Dodge: Get fun lori I. 937 01:54:32.550 --> 01:54:32.820 michael esmay: Like. 938 01:54:34.140 --> 01:54:38.400 Karen Tarapata: Karen I public hearing is closed. 939 01:54:40.080 --> 01:54:40.650 Karen Tarapata: All right. 940 01:54:41.730 --> 01:54:47.190 Karen Tarapata: Is there any more discussion among members of the board on this local law. 941 01:54:48.120 --> 01:54:54.720 Kennon Rothchild: Right yeah Karen I, I have a few comments just because one is I would. 942 01:54:55.830 --> 01:55:02.280 Kennon Rothchild: join you in saying that the willows removed from North broadway but 15 years ago 20 years ago. 943 01:55:03.000 --> 01:55:03.600 Kennon Rothchild: Is a. 944 01:55:03.810 --> 01:55:16.800 Kennon Rothchild: is a major example is why laws of this nature are needed, you know they were they were removed seemingly arbitrarily at the whim of the property owner had a significant negative effect on. 945 01:55:17.580 --> 01:55:22.890 Kennon Rothchild: On a number of people's properties, as well as on the Community as a whole that's why we have these kinds of laws. 946 01:55:24.810 --> 01:55:36.870 Kennon Rothchild: i've had myself some experience with significant trees and my property, I have a quarter acre lot and I think when I purchased the property I had something in the range of under the current definitions. 947 01:55:37.920 --> 01:55:40.230 Kennon Rothchild: Eight or so significant trees. 948 01:55:41.430 --> 01:55:43.500 Kennon Rothchild: Within six to seven years. 949 01:55:44.820 --> 01:55:49.650 Kennon Rothchild: I was down to probably two and I will say that I didn't hmm. 950 01:55:50.760 --> 01:56:03.720 Kennon Rothchild: And I will say that I didn't have to put in a single permit for any of them because they came down quite naturally unfortunately and luckily, not in someone else's building, so you know I you know the. 951 01:56:05.160 --> 01:56:15.150 Kennon Rothchild: The notion that this is a law which burns people with trees that are you know and they came down or had to be taken down. 952 01:56:15.750 --> 01:56:24.900 Kennon Rothchild: Because they were dangerous and I didn't need a permit from there was actually one that I put in a permit for the removal client came in and said, you need to do that he said. 953 01:56:26.340 --> 01:56:33.150 Kennon Rothchild: This was a tree that didn't fall within the definitions of the current law, and I said Oh well, I was worried about that he said. 954 01:56:34.620 --> 01:56:46.740 Kennon Rothchild: I have to work in Upper nyack if I violate the law, I won't be able to work enough for night, so no responsible tree service will take down a tree, which violates the law. 955 01:56:47.370 --> 01:56:56.760 Kennon Rothchild: I doubt very much there's a single homeowner whose expressing concern about this tree law who's themselves planning and going out and trying to figure out which trees are taken down. 956 01:56:57.420 --> 01:57:08.130 Kennon Rothchild: Had grabbed their trusty chainsaw and starting to take it away that, in essence, virtually everyone who's concerned about the trees, particularly significant trees. 957 01:57:08.790 --> 01:57:18.570 Kennon Rothchild: should be smart enough to know that you leave it in the hands professional who will know whether it's a violation of the law or not, it will tell the homeowner you need a permit in order to do this. 958 01:57:19.500 --> 01:57:26.430 Kennon Rothchild: In most cases, and, as you say unhealthier dangerous trees there won't be a need for permit particularly dangerous seminar. 959 01:57:27.930 --> 01:57:35.490 Kennon Rothchild: And, in those cases where there's some dispute us whether it's dangerous and that's where it should go before the planning board that's exactly the idea. 960 01:57:36.240 --> 01:57:50.310 Kennon Rothchild: The law is focused towards sort of wanton whim like destruction of trees, which add to the character and nature and property values of everyone else, we are in a community in that respect. 961 01:57:51.900 --> 01:57:53.010 Kennon Rothchild: So I think you know. 962 01:57:54.030 --> 01:57:56.670 Kennon Rothchild: The concerns raised that i've heard so far. 963 01:57:57.690 --> 01:58:05.520 Kennon Rothchild: have no bearing on the in the laws it stands professionals will come in they'll advise a homeowner as to whether they need permits. 964 01:58:06.630 --> 01:58:10.140 Kennon Rothchild: So as to not violate the law and. 965 01:58:11.280 --> 01:58:15.270 Kennon Rothchild: The homeowner wants to willingly violate the law and the law is such that. 966 01:58:17.370 --> 01:58:21.150 Kennon Rothchild: We have it in place and it's enforceable So those are my comments. 967 01:58:22.020 --> 01:58:22.890 Karen Tarapata: Thank you and. 968 01:58:24.600 --> 01:58:30.960 Karen Tarapata: You know, is there any other members of the board that want to speak on this lot tonight. 969 01:58:33.060 --> 01:58:37.950 sylviajeff: i'll just mentioned that, as I mentioned it before that, generally speaking, I think. 970 01:58:39.630 --> 01:58:53.310 sylviajeff: If anybody is has concerns and started reading this law and is concerned, that they do not get it, because it's dense or it's legally so whatever the immediate reaction I would imagine would be to go to city. 971 01:58:54.030 --> 01:59:08.790 sylviajeff: Hall, and say here's my situation is, what do I do, and then it could be clarified rather readily so i'm not too concerned that it's going to cause a great deal of difficulty because I think that would be the automatic next step. 972 01:59:10.080 --> 01:59:12.240 Karen Tarapata: You know, it is possible, we could have. 973 01:59:13.620 --> 01:59:27.090 Karen Tarapata: put something put the exemptions, perhaps in the building department section of our website where we have the permit with a permit resides have a little preamble with permit. 974 01:59:28.020 --> 01:59:28.770 Karen Tarapata: I think that'd be. 975 01:59:29.430 --> 01:59:48.720 sylviajeff: that'd be a great idea, something that makes it more readily apparent that you probably do not fall into the category that yes, be concerned about, but if you're planning to do something that is multiple trees are healthy trees, you know anything else he's coming you know speak to us. 976 01:59:49.140 --> 02:00:02.160 Karen Tarapata: Right, but you do you I mean we do charge an administrative thing because we want to have an arborist look at a tree and before it's taken down and basically we are charging with the barbarous. 977 02:00:02.160 --> 02:00:02.970 19146596799: Charges us. 978 02:00:03.000 --> 02:00:14.670 Karen Tarapata: This is not a revenue generation, this is just that it's not a revenue loss in the past we weren't sure are we paying more than we were charging, so we tried to bring that into my. 979 02:00:16.920 --> 02:00:20.310 Karen Tarapata: Noel is there anything else I should cover before I. 980 02:00:22.560 --> 02:00:26.250 Karen Tarapata: asked the board to entertain a motion to it up this local law. 981 02:00:26.910 --> 02:00:36.570 Noelle Wolfson: I would just um you know, there was a typo in the one section, so any emotion, you know recommend kind of addressing that it read 30 inches are larger than. 982 02:00:38.040 --> 02:00:49.170 Noelle Wolfson: The log That means that means the gap, and it was meant to read 13 inches or smaller so any resolution, I would just incorporate making that modification correcting that typo alright. 983 02:00:52.380 --> 02:00:54.540 Karen Tarapata: Alright, if there isn't more. 984 02:00:56.160 --> 02:01:03.240 Karen Tarapata: Discussion, then I would ask someone to make a motion to adopt the local law. 985 02:01:04.380 --> 02:01:08.880 Karen Tarapata: With that type of a typographical error corrected. 986 02:01:13.410 --> 02:01:14.400 Karen Tarapata: And I get emotion. 987 02:01:15.660 --> 02:01:17.100 Kennon Rothchild: i'll move that we adopt. 988 02:01:18.570 --> 02:01:22.350 Kennon Rothchild: The local propose local law of for the trees. 989 02:01:23.400 --> 02:01:29.730 Kennon Rothchild: With the correction to the typographical error and whatever section that said. 990 02:01:30.990 --> 02:01:34.500 Karen Tarapata: That is a 2.2 point 1.2. 991 02:01:37.560 --> 02:01:38.790 Karen Tarapata: All right, can I get a second. 992 02:01:40.560 --> 02:01:41.160 michael esmay: Second. 993 02:01:44.490 --> 02:01:46.290 Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye. 994 02:01:48.270 --> 02:01:48.540 Kennon Rothchild: Aye. 995 02:01:51.750 --> 02:01:52.170 sylviajeff: hi. 996 02:01:57.000 --> 02:02:00.870 Laurie Dodge: i'm going to abstain Karen so i'm not don't wait for me Mike i'm not saying. 997 02:02:02.580 --> 02:02:05.100 Karen Tarapata: that's fine and you can say no to I mean that's. 998 02:02:05.670 --> 02:02:09.570 Laurie Dodge: Okay i'm like wishy washy so i'm not a yes and i'm not a no. 999 02:02:09.600 --> 02:02:12.030 Laurie Dodge: So I feel like it's better for me just to. 1000 02:02:14.310 --> 02:02:15.900 Karen Tarapata: Abstaining is perfectly fine. 1001 02:02:16.710 --> 02:02:17.520 Karen Tarapata: Alright, and carry. 1002 02:02:17.580 --> 02:02:23.040 Karen Tarapata: This is so with the law passes, with a supermajority of four out of fun. 1003 02:02:24.900 --> 02:02:29.700 Karen Tarapata: Thank you all, thank you, Bob I was wondering is. 1004 02:02:31.080 --> 02:02:34.560 Karen Tarapata: Is our is Mike Graziano on the call tonight. 1005 02:02:37.080 --> 02:02:48.030 Karen Tarapata: we're going to have our board representative from FLEX down was going to join us at this point in the meeting I don't know if he probably gave up because everything's run so long. 1006 02:02:49.560 --> 02:02:51.030 Laurie Dodge: yeah I don't see him. 1007 02:02:51.990 --> 02:03:05.640 Karen Tarapata: Oh okay well, you probably came on 30 and probably gave up after a while, but he was going to join us and I guess just wanted to say hello, because the next item on our agenda is the. 1008 02:03:07.230 --> 02:03:14.040 Karen Tarapata: annexation of properties on North Highland avenue route nine w giving effect to. 1009 02:03:15.510 --> 02:03:25.500 Karen Tarapata: annexation now Noel Am I correct this local law is one of the few that does not require a public hearing. 1010 02:03:26.010 --> 02:03:35.430 Noelle Wolfson: that's right, so this law, most of the local laws that you adopt or under the municipal Home Rule law and it's procedures, but this local law is a local adopted under. 1011 02:03:35.760 --> 02:03:45.210 Noelle Wolfson: The general municipal municipal annexation law and, as you know, this has been a long process, you received a petition for annexation. 1012 02:03:45.600 --> 02:03:52.170 Noelle Wolfson: You perform secret you held a joint public hearing on the annexation with the town of clark's downtown board. 1013 02:03:53.070 --> 02:03:57.630 Noelle Wolfson: You had to make a determination of whether or not annexation was in the public interest. 1014 02:03:58.050 --> 02:04:08.970 Noelle Wolfson: which you did clark's town also made a similar determination of public interest, so the general municipal law provides that at the end of that long process where the public input was at the joint public hearing. 1015 02:04:09.480 --> 02:04:23.730 Noelle Wolfson: That you after both words find that annexation is in the public interest you forth with and without a public hearing adopted local law affecting annexation so that's what the local law before you tonight is a final step in. 1016 02:04:25.410 --> 02:04:37.590 Noelle Wolfson: In finishing the annexation after this is adopted and filed with the Department of State we work with rockland county planning to remap the municipal of Andrey and then were completed okay. 1017 02:04:38.730 --> 02:04:39.120 Karen Tarapata: Now. 1018 02:04:40.860 --> 02:04:53.460 Karen Tarapata: First i'd like I do want I do want to thank every all the help we had from people over at clark's town their planning department was helpful their legal department was helpful George home was helpful. 1019 02:04:54.120 --> 02:05:14.190 Karen Tarapata: Mike Michael Siano was helpful in reaching out to the property owners and this was a really I thought, well, it was lengthy, it was a really positive process, and I think it was actually good for our village working with the municipality in a way that perhaps we had not in the past. 1020 02:05:15.270 --> 02:05:16.020 Karen Tarapata: So it. 1021 02:05:17.130 --> 02:05:21.600 Karen Tarapata: Is there any discussion on the board about wrapping up this annexation process. 1022 02:05:21.720 --> 02:05:22.320 michael esmay: that's good. 1023 02:05:22.680 --> 02:05:23.070 yeah. 1024 02:05:24.480 --> 02:05:25.590 Karen Tarapata: To make a motion. 1025 02:05:27.750 --> 02:05:34.500 Karen Tarapata: To adopt this local law and accessing certain parcels of properties from the town of flagstaff and to the village. 1026 02:05:36.300 --> 02:05:39.780 michael esmay: This is Mike oh i'll make that motion, thank you. 1027 02:05:40.110 --> 02:05:41.280 Karen Tarapata: Can I get a second. 1028 02:05:41.730 --> 02:05:41.940 i'll. 1029 02:05:43.230 --> 02:05:43.890 Laurie Dodge: Go ahead Jeff. 1030 02:05:44.580 --> 02:05:46.260 sylviajeff: This is Jeff out second emotion. 1031 02:05:47.850 --> 02:05:48.780 Karen Tarapata: All in favor say. 1032 02:05:53.130 --> 02:05:53.760 sylviajeff: Aye Jeff. 1033 02:05:55.860 --> 02:05:56.640 Laurie Dodge: hi lori. 1034 02:05:57.510 --> 02:05:58.080 Kennon Rothchild: hi can. 1035 02:06:00.120 --> 02:06:00.810 michael esmay: I like. 1036 02:06:01.530 --> 02:06:10.830 Karen Tarapata: I Karen Oh, this is great i'm very excited to get this done to have this complete this is really. 1037 02:06:12.390 --> 02:06:22.290 Karen Tarapata: Quite Nice and the next step will be for us to form the property owners, when this is filed the Department of State once that comes back. 1038 02:06:23.160 --> 02:06:37.140 Karen Tarapata: That they can, if they so choose a remove property lines between their steeply slope and level properties and create one lot which may allow them to. 1039 02:06:38.190 --> 02:06:42.810 Karen Tarapata: do some development that will be beneficial for commercial district. 1040 02:06:44.640 --> 02:06:45.480 Karen Tarapata: fantastic. 1041 02:06:47.370 --> 02:06:48.750 Michael's iPhone: she's my grandma Seattle. 1042 02:06:49.350 --> 02:06:53.040 Karen Tarapata: Oh you're on Hello bikes you got to hear me saying nice things about you. 1043 02:06:53.640 --> 02:07:09.150 Michael's iPhone: Thank you, I just listening I just i'm glad that we got to meet we worked on us together and really worked out well and I would just want to say i'm glad I can help out if there's anything else in the future, you know how to reach me and the board just. 1044 02:07:10.260 --> 02:07:13.560 Michael's iPhone: You know i'm very accessible so just give me a shout if you need the ounce. 1045 02:07:14.700 --> 02:07:25.260 Karen Tarapata: Yes, you are Mike you've been very helpful throughout this and very supportive, because this was something that I was unfamiliar with and everyone in Clarks town was very helpful. 1046 02:07:26.340 --> 02:07:33.120 Michael's iPhone: yeah we have a we have a great team here, so when i'm when we are very happy to work with you guys, thank you ladies so. 1047 02:07:33.570 --> 02:07:37.410 Kennon Rothchild: yeah Michael can wrap up, thank you very much for your help on all this. 1048 02:07:37.440 --> 02:07:38.430 Michael's iPhone: it's great no problem. 1049 02:07:38.880 --> 02:07:39.930 Michael's iPhone: There was, it was a pleasure. 1050 02:07:40.980 --> 02:07:42.210 Michael's iPhone: So it's a team effort. 1051 02:07:44.010 --> 02:07:48.450 Karen Tarapata: It has been it's rare that we actually have something with our two groups that. 1052 02:07:49.650 --> 02:07:52.530 Karen Tarapata: benefits, you know could benefit everyone. 1053 02:07:54.570 --> 02:08:01.530 Michael's iPhone: Yes, well, I just wanted to say was it was great to work and wish you well with it, thank you have a. 1054 02:08:01.560 --> 02:08:03.570 Laurie Dodge: good night everybody thanks you too. 1055 02:08:06.840 --> 02:08:14.940 Karen Tarapata: All right next item is the bid TV oh 120 21 the paving programs. 1056 02:08:16.530 --> 02:08:18.000 Karen Tarapata: The bid opening review. 1057 02:08:19.740 --> 02:08:22.410 Karen Tarapata: let's go down to that. 1058 02:08:24.060 --> 02:08:25.650 Massive document here. 1059 02:08:26.790 --> 02:08:27.270 Karen Tarapata: All right. 1060 02:08:28.590 --> 02:08:33.180 Karen Tarapata: Kevin do you like to read up rather do you want to read the bid opening. 1061 02:08:34.470 --> 02:08:35.190 Karen Tarapata: document. 1062 02:08:35.730 --> 02:08:36.210 sure. 1063 02:08:39.300 --> 02:08:53.670 Heather Candella: bid opening bid number PV oh 120 21 2021 paving program pavement resurfacing April 13 2021 at 11am at the village of upper nyack nyack New York. 1064 02:08:54.210 --> 02:09:05.190 Heather Candella: Those present Carol G brotherhood village clerk heather candela clerk typist and Karen Harry Potter mayor others identified coville hacker. 1065 02:09:06.060 --> 02:09:15.150 Heather Candella: till con New York incorporated the notice to bitters published in the journal news was placed on New York state contract reporter. 1066 02:09:15.720 --> 02:09:41.160 Heather Candella: One sealed bid was received opened and read aloud as follows the bitters bitter was till con New York incorporated at nine and 10 road parsippany New Jersey 07054 and their bid was for 100 that $134,387 and 90 cents bidding was closed at. 1067 02:09:43.080 --> 02:09:46.440 Heather Candella: respectfully submitted Carol G brotherhood village clerk. 1068 02:09:48.840 --> 02:09:56.280 Karen Tarapata: Okay, well, this was this was disappointing because we have a grant for 75,000 and I was hoping, this was going to be under 100. 1069 02:09:57.750 --> 02:10:06.900 Karen Tarapata: I did I spoke to Denis lesson and also to the village treasure the village treasure tells me that we do have the money. 1070 02:10:07.410 --> 02:10:18.630 Karen Tarapata: To do this job, this is the paving of hyper and Palmer both roads are in very poor condition and she know, last year we did a major drainage project. 1071 02:10:19.290 --> 02:10:35.310 Karen Tarapata: up there, and that has had a significant benefit to the road in that now the road is dried out, but the problem was there was so much water crossing Palmer that that road is badly degraded and needs to be redone. 1072 02:10:36.480 --> 02:10:56.010 Karen Tarapata: I spoke to Denis he said he was looking at the unit costs for this did and thinking perhaps he could come back with a plan, where we have till con to Piper and navy corpsman do a resurfacing on hummer. 1073 02:10:58.110 --> 02:11:14.250 Karen Tarapata: I go back and forth across about that because it's we are doing other work with borman we're doing resurfacing three roads, so we would get a good price, but the fact is, these roads have been neglected for how long like 30 years. 1074 02:11:15.570 --> 02:11:16.170 michael esmay: Probably. 1075 02:11:17.730 --> 02:11:20.130 Karen Tarapata: You really need it really needs to be done. 1076 02:11:21.180 --> 02:11:37.080 Karen Tarapata: So my recommendation is because the village, the treasure believes that we do have the money to do this project that we're going to be receiving more money from the state and federal government. 1077 02:11:38.190 --> 02:11:41.250 Karen Tarapata: that it would be within our right to. 1078 02:11:42.810 --> 02:11:48.420 Karen Tarapata: transfer the necessary $60,000 extra from reserves. 1079 02:11:50.010 --> 02:11:57.030 Karen Tarapata: If needed to do this project, above and beyond the 75,000 Mike, what do you think you're the. 1080 02:11:58.380 --> 02:12:00.720 michael esmay: No more, I think we should, I think we should do it. 1081 02:12:03.720 --> 02:12:08.880 michael esmay: And you know russ didn't talk about the potential stimulus money coming through. 1082 02:12:10.050 --> 02:12:14.490 michael esmay: So, you know that that's out there and it's probably going to come through so. 1083 02:12:16.740 --> 02:12:30.810 Karen Tarapata: And George Coleman was talking that it could be in the neighborhood of $90,000 or so that would come through Clarks channel to offer nyack so wouldn't cover the different the money that we would spend here. 1084 02:12:32.640 --> 02:12:33.120 Karen Tarapata: So. 1085 02:12:34.290 --> 02:12:43.380 Karen Tarapata: My recommendation would be that we accept this bed, and we get those roads brought up to date we've done the drainage let's do the roads. 1086 02:12:44.580 --> 02:12:45.660 Laurie Dodge: I think we should do. 1087 02:12:47.580 --> 02:12:56.130 Karen Tarapata: All right, with somebody make a motion to accept the bit of telecom where the paving project well one of 2021. 1088 02:12:58.800 --> 02:13:07.800 Laurie Dodge: i'll make a motion that we accept till cons bid for paving project a one of 2021 for polymer and Piper. 1089 02:13:09.000 --> 02:13:13.260 Laurie Dodge: For 130 $4,387 and 90 cents. 1090 02:13:13.770 --> 02:13:15.210 Karen Tarapata: Oh God it just freaks me out. 1091 02:13:16.740 --> 02:13:32.670 Karen Tarapata: paving is so much and that's why we're all just before we finish this that's why we're doing the resurfacing on three other roads, so that we get another half dozen years because we don't want to be letting roads get degraded, where we have to do this extensive work can I get a second. 1092 02:13:35.400 --> 02:13:36.570 michael esmay: Wait a second. 1093 02:13:37.980 --> 02:13:39.450 Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye. 1094 02:13:40.950 --> 02:13:42.720 sylviajeff: Aye lori hi Jeff. 1095 02:13:44.190 --> 02:13:44.850 michael esmay: hi Mike. 1096 02:13:45.450 --> 02:13:47.700 I can I Karen. 1097 02:13:50.340 --> 02:14:06.060 Karen Tarapata: Great next item on our agenda is the Ms for 2020 work, as I said before, this is a report, we do on our municipal stormwater program every year we do this report to the DC. 1098 02:14:06.900 --> 02:14:17.730 Karen Tarapata: This should have been completed, about this time last year, but because of the report was never done we did get it finished before our vc audit. 1099 02:14:18.180 --> 02:14:33.540 Karen Tarapata: But now we need to adopt it and the 2022 2021 report will be done in probably within three months, and so we'll be back on track, this is a bit of a little bit of a catch up. 1100 02:14:34.470 --> 02:14:46.050 Karen Tarapata: So I would ask that somebody make a motion to accept our annual Ms for actually it's the 19 2019 2020 Ms for report. 1101 02:14:49.710 --> 02:14:56.160 Kennon Rothchild: This is, can I move that we adopt the Ms for 2019 2020 storm water report. 1102 02:14:57.450 --> 02:14:58.800 Karen Tarapata: Thank you, can I get a second. 1103 02:15:00.630 --> 02:15:02.820 Laurie Dodge: i'll second it's lori Thank you. 1104 02:15:03.570 --> 02:15:04.890 Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye. 1105 02:15:06.630 --> 02:15:07.470 Kennon Rothchild: Can hi. 1106 02:15:08.400 --> 02:15:09.240 Laurie Dodge: lori I. 1107 02:15:12.690 --> 02:15:20.100 sylviajeff: Have a quick question I could vote in this right, even though I wasn't brought up in the 29th and when this started was important. 1108 02:15:20.130 --> 02:15:30.900 Karen Tarapata: No, you just you're on the board you, you were you are reflects you know what I think that's good you I think you should probably abstaining because you were not on the board at the time when these actions were taken. 1109 02:15:31.320 --> 02:15:32.790 sylviajeff: And I will abstain Jeff. 1110 02:15:33.420 --> 02:15:34.620 michael esmay: that's fair like I. 1111 02:15:35.700 --> 02:15:38.400 Karen Tarapata: Aaron I alright we've adopted the. 1112 02:15:39.660 --> 02:15:45.270 Karen Tarapata: 2019 2020 and this form report with a supermajority of where trustees. 1113 02:15:46.890 --> 02:15:54.180 Karen Tarapata: All right, here we go now, we have some additional items to be discussed first thing we need to do this. 1114 02:15:56.790 --> 02:15:57.450 Karen doesn't. 1115 02:15:58.590 --> 02:16:00.270 Karen Tarapata: It doesn't matter it is going to. 1116 02:16:00.360 --> 02:16:02.130 18456426153: turn to go back to the minute. 1117 02:16:04.770 --> 02:16:08.520 Laurie Dodge: The minute is to God and me, have friends of river hook. 1118 02:16:09.780 --> 02:16:12.000 Karen Tarapata: Oh yeah just hold on pinterest. 1119 02:16:12.120 --> 02:16:14.340 Karen Tarapata: And another cup of tea, if you need one. 1120 02:16:15.390 --> 02:16:16.710 18456426153: short of here. 1121 02:16:18.210 --> 02:16:21.840 Karen Tarapata: All right, that's right, we had the minutes of the annual meeting April 5. 1122 02:16:23.220 --> 02:16:24.720 Karen Tarapata: All the way back up to the top. 1123 02:16:26.580 --> 02:16:31.410 michael esmay: Make emotion that we adopted minutes of our annual meeting like. 1124 02:16:32.670 --> 02:16:33.690 Laurie Dodge: i'll second lori. 1125 02:16:38.160 --> 02:16:38.820 Laurie Dodge: hi lori. 1126 02:16:41.700 --> 02:16:42.270 michael esmay: hi Mike. 1127 02:16:45.270 --> 02:16:50.640 Karen Tarapata: All right, and now we have the minutes of a special meeting of April 8 2021. 1128 02:16:53.460 --> 02:16:59.970 Kennon Rothchild: Again i'll just for the record i'll point out the erratic spelling of my last name. 1129 02:17:01.170 --> 02:17:08.040 Karen Tarapata: What you do you're like me, you have an unusual spelling of your name and so yes we'll have to do it will replace. 1130 02:17:09.630 --> 02:17:10.770 Karen Tarapata: It will happen to get. 1131 02:17:16.050 --> 02:17:17.340 Karen Tarapata: All in favor say I. 1132 02:17:19.170 --> 02:17:19.830 Kennon Rothchild: Can I. 1133 02:17:20.730 --> 02:17:21.180 sylviajeff: Can chef. 1134 02:17:22.650 --> 02:17:23.430 Laurie Dodge: Ari I. 1135 02:17:24.270 --> 02:17:24.990 michael esmay: Like I. 1136 02:17:26.010 --> 02:17:33.180 Karen Tarapata: An amen right, thank you for reminding me Carol This is why I have a really check everything off as we go along. 1137 02:17:34.260 --> 02:17:37.710 Karen Tarapata: As I can I start to get a little daffy after two hours. 1138 02:17:39.360 --> 02:17:49.320 Karen Tarapata: Alright, the next thing we need to do is to appoint the registrar and Deputy Registrar because their appointments are expiring at the end of this month. 1139 02:17:50.610 --> 02:17:52.680 Karen Tarapata: And so I would ask. 1140 02:17:53.940 --> 02:17:54.510 me. 1141 02:17:55.890 --> 02:18:05.880 Karen Tarapata: A point heather as heather candela as the village registrar and know Carol what would this be two motions or a single motion. 1142 02:18:08.760 --> 02:18:14.190 18456426153: I think you can do it as a single motion to say they're both both of their names. 1143 02:18:15.270 --> 02:18:16.650 18456426153: Alright appointing. 1144 02:18:16.680 --> 02:18:17.910 18456426153: heather candela as the. 1145 02:18:17.910 --> 02:18:28.470 Karen Tarapata: registrar a vital statistics and Donna Albert as the Deputy Registrar of vital statistics and that would be effective on may 1. 1146 02:18:32.070 --> 02:18:35.370 Karen Tarapata: Can I get so emotion, to make those appointments. 1147 02:18:36.720 --> 02:18:39.420 sylviajeff: Jeff I will move to make those appointments. 1148 02:18:47.100 --> 02:18:47.490 Laurie Dodge: or my. 1149 02:18:48.900 --> 02:18:52.080 Karen Tarapata: My my all my favorite say I. 1150 02:18:53.370 --> 02:18:54.000 michael esmay: My guy. 1151 02:18:56.520 --> 02:18:57.390 Laurie Dodge: lori I. 1152 02:18:57.810 --> 02:18:58.290 Kennon Rothchild: Can I. 1153 02:19:01.260 --> 02:19:09.060 Karen Tarapata: Alright, the next thing we have is should be pretty quick here, it is the design air actually we thought yeah we've got. 1154 02:19:10.410 --> 02:19:11.670 Karen Tarapata: A we have. 1155 02:19:13.020 --> 02:19:21.600 Karen Tarapata: An indoor if that we have a units in the document storage room the heating and cooling unit it's only four years old. 1156 02:19:22.080 --> 02:19:23.460 18456426153: And it isn't functioning. 1157 02:19:23.940 --> 02:19:28.740 Karen Tarapata: We have two choices we can repair it for $2,000 or replace it for. 1158 02:19:28.740 --> 02:19:29.850 18456426153: 2500. 1159 02:19:30.540 --> 02:19:32.070 Karen Tarapata: They said, the reason it needed. 1160 02:19:32.070 --> 02:19:32.820 Karen Tarapata: repair. 1161 02:19:33.120 --> 02:19:34.830 18456426153: was because it wasn't maintained. 1162 02:19:35.310 --> 02:19:35.730 Karen Tarapata: So the. 1163 02:19:35.790 --> 02:19:36.480 Karen Tarapata: Other part. 1164 02:19:36.510 --> 02:19:38.550 Karen Tarapata: Of the second part of this that. 1165 02:19:38.550 --> 02:19:40.080 Karen Tarapata: there's two things here, the second part of. 1166 02:19:40.080 --> 02:19:42.180 Karen Tarapata: This is a maintenance agreement. 1167 02:19:42.690 --> 02:19:43.350 Karen Tarapata: Because we've. 1168 02:19:43.380 --> 02:19:45.450 Karen Tarapata: Also, had Jill has. 1169 02:19:45.480 --> 02:19:46.710 Karen Tarapata: worked with these people. 1170 02:19:46.950 --> 02:19:47.880 18456426153: To do maintenance. 1171 02:19:47.910 --> 02:19:54.990 Karen Tarapata: create a maintenance agreement which is rather costly, but what it covers is rather fantastic because. 1172 02:19:55.470 --> 02:20:09.630 Karen Tarapata: It maintains the heating and cooling in the document storage room and village Hall, and they still meeting house at you know I mean it really covers things that now are costing us money because they were not maintained in. 1173 02:20:10.650 --> 02:20:12.150 Karen Tarapata: The stuff they found it. 1174 02:20:14.280 --> 02:20:20.700 Karen Tarapata: heating and cooling system and the old style meeting house was disgusting so we're going to try and. 1175 02:20:21.960 --> 02:20:23.460 Karen Tarapata: do better in the future. 1176 02:20:25.170 --> 02:20:31.170 Karen Tarapata: So when I would like someone to have, what do you think about either replacing or repairing. 1177 02:20:32.370 --> 02:20:34.890 Karen Tarapata: The equipment in the document storage room. 1178 02:20:39.810 --> 02:20:40.620 michael esmay: Any thoughts. 1179 02:20:40.710 --> 02:20:45.540 Kennon Rothchild: Well, it seems, no brainer for $500 more to replace. 1180 02:20:47.490 --> 02:20:50.340 michael esmay: yeah but if it's repaired, is it a new unit. 1181 02:20:51.630 --> 02:20:52.140 Karen Tarapata: No. 1182 02:20:53.520 --> 02:20:56.850 Karen Tarapata: it's not it says it's actually yeah. 1183 02:20:57.900 --> 02:20:59.070 Karen Tarapata: He says it's not. 1184 02:21:01.560 --> 02:21:02.100 Karen Tarapata: You know. 1185 02:21:02.790 --> 02:21:12.930 Karen Tarapata: They said they could do it, but they they said it was a very limited warranty warranty you get is not comparable to the warranty you get on the new one okay. 1186 02:21:14.220 --> 02:21:21.090 sylviajeff: Well, actually, I think the warranty look like it was the same one year on both it's just that if you get the new unit. 1187 02:21:22.110 --> 02:21:32.820 sylviajeff: you're not going to need it for a number years hopefully beyond that and if you just do the repair it's a crapshoot after that first year, which is why I would think it's worthwhile doing the. 1188 02:21:33.300 --> 02:21:40.620 Karen Tarapata: right thing you're absolutely correct, yes, it is the one year warranty but then we would have a maintenance agreement. 1189 02:21:41.010 --> 02:21:55.230 Karen Tarapata: To make sure that it stayed in good shape, but you're right Mike we, it is a question is that extra $500 the new unit, I think it is Joe let's put it this way Jill who is such a. 1190 02:21:57.030 --> 02:22:03.870 Karen Tarapata: She likes to really get the most value out of every deal she recommends we get the new unit. 1191 02:22:05.220 --> 02:22:10.200 Karen Tarapata: So I think somebody who is that parsimonious would be a good person to ask. 1192 02:22:11.370 --> 02:22:13.110 michael esmay: I will say this, I do have. 1193 02:22:13.410 --> 02:22:17.250 michael esmay: Respect for design air there okay good they're good outfit. 1194 02:22:19.710 --> 02:22:25.740 Laurie Dodge: yeah my mom's use them for years she likes them i've never used them myself, but she likes them. 1195 02:22:27.300 --> 02:22:36.570 Karen Tarapata: yeah so it's someone make a motion to accept the proposal of design air to replace the unit in this document storage. 1196 02:22:37.890 --> 02:22:39.870 michael esmay: Okay i'll make that motion like. 1197 02:22:42.270 --> 02:22:42.750 Okay. 1198 02:22:45.420 --> 02:22:47.040 Karen Tarapata: Great all in favor say Aye. 1199 02:22:50.730 --> 02:22:51.720 michael esmay: Three, at the same time. 1200 02:22:54.180 --> 02:22:54.930 sylviajeff: I Jeff. 1201 02:22:58.080 --> 02:23:00.930 Karen Tarapata: Unanimous that way for others purposes, it would. 1202 02:23:03.960 --> 02:23:05.490 Karen Tarapata: know the maintenance agreement. 1203 02:23:06.930 --> 02:23:19.800 Karen Tarapata: I once again Jill has wrangled this guy so that he's going to be managing the old stone church no garage. 1204 02:23:20.670 --> 02:23:31.590 Karen Tarapata: The records room and village Hall, it is expensive, it is 20 $500 a year to maintain all our systems. 1205 02:23:32.460 --> 02:23:50.070 Karen Tarapata: But we do pay several like a $400 a year to maintain our generator So if you consider the number of units it's really not it's 234567 different units it's not a outrageous amount of money. 1206 02:23:52.950 --> 02:23:56.010 sylviajeff: So I seem to have a fondness for the number. 1207 02:23:56.010 --> 02:24:07.890 Karen Tarapata: 2575 think it has to do with prevailing wage I think that's like they figure out how many hours that's always comes up to that. 1208 02:24:10.890 --> 02:24:23.520 Karen Tarapata: So should we do it let's see for what we'll try for a year, I mean that's and see if it really does improve the functioning of our units, and particularly in the old style meeting house. 1209 02:24:26.100 --> 02:24:30.270 sylviajeff: Well i'll tell you the truth, if it costs $400 for one unit, and we have seven. 1210 02:24:30.780 --> 02:24:31.560 sylviajeff: units. 1211 02:24:32.280 --> 02:24:37.980 sylviajeff: that's more than enough right there without anything else, for you know to that category, so I said. 1212 02:24:41.310 --> 02:24:47.820 Karen Tarapata: Okay, great and they give us a discount repairs diagnosing what has to be done so. 1213 02:24:49.530 --> 02:24:53.610 Karen Tarapata: Hopefully that'll never happen people never get anything done can I get a second. 1214 02:24:54.930 --> 02:24:56.850 Laurie Dodge: A second Thank you lori. 1215 02:24:57.570 --> 02:24:58.740 Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye. 1216 02:25:01.050 --> 02:25:01.710 Laurie Dodge: Aye lori. 1217 02:25:03.450 --> 02:25:03.990 Kennon Rothchild: I can. 1218 02:25:05.040 --> 02:25:06.390 Karen Tarapata: I can right. 1219 02:25:07.800 --> 02:25:12.330 Karen Tarapata: Now we're down to things that didn't even make it on the list of extra things. 1220 02:25:15.120 --> 02:25:15.600 Karen Tarapata: One of them. 1221 02:25:15.660 --> 02:25:28.800 Karen Tarapata: Is that this booster for a one year loan or the Silk shirt river hook Peters Strasser you saw that we said lori said that around and when to turn this over to lori to look at the proposal. 1222 02:25:29.850 --> 02:25:38.130 Laurie Dodge: Well, I knew that this conversation would happen leaked in meeting that's why I tried to provide as much written information. 1223 02:25:39.360 --> 02:25:42.510 Laurie Dodge: For you know information clarification. 1224 02:25:44.100 --> 02:25:55.500 Laurie Dodge: So, I guess, have you guys had a chance to read it, and do you have any questions, I mean I could sort of go over it again, but i'm assuming it was a pretty short document, it was pretty straightforward it's you know. 1225 02:25:57.960 --> 02:26:02.190 Karen Tarapata: heather did not, I did not, I forgot to send this to her, I will send you. 1226 02:26:02.190 --> 02:26:03.210 Laurie Dodge: out Okay, or I. 1227 02:26:03.720 --> 02:26:05.220 Karen Tarapata: record tomorrow. 1228 02:26:05.370 --> 02:26:06.240 Karen Tarapata: i'm just opening on my. 1229 02:26:06.840 --> 02:26:08.040 Karen Tarapata: I should have done that but. 1230 02:26:08.280 --> 02:26:10.200 Laurie Dodge: So heather I didn't. 1231 02:26:11.340 --> 02:26:11.760 Karen Tarapata: suck. 1232 02:26:12.000 --> 02:26:12.600 Karen Tarapata: that's okay. 1233 02:26:12.660 --> 02:26:18.090 Karen Tarapata: But some yeah just summarize it briefly and then i'll send you the actual full document tomorrow heather. 1234 02:26:19.980 --> 02:26:24.480 Laurie Dodge: Essentially, what we're doing is asking the board to vote on. 1235 02:26:25.560 --> 02:26:35.850 Laurie Dodge: A piece of sculpture for river hook, which was recommended by friends of river hook, the sculpture, is by a local artist named Peter Strasser. 1236 02:26:36.270 --> 02:26:47.550 Laurie Dodge: And it's it would be on loan beginning next weekend because we're trying to get it done for the villages earth slash arbor Day celebration at river hook. 1237 02:26:49.230 --> 02:26:59.520 Laurie Dodge: And then we have a term document also heather which just sort of lays out what his responsibilities are, which is essentially he's responsible for getting the piece there and getting at home. 1238 02:27:00.060 --> 02:27:12.570 Laurie Dodge: And while it's there we sort of assume responsibility we have insurance costs and all of that's outlined in the terms document which will send so you can have that in front of you, but we're just asking the board. 1239 02:27:13.680 --> 02:27:23.520 Laurie Dodge: Because it's ultimately the board the villages decision, the village board's decision to say yay or nay on this piece, the only other thing I would like to add is that we've had. 1240 02:27:23.880 --> 02:27:32.490 Laurie Dodge: This is really to kick start the campaign and Peter was very generous to offer this piece obviously there's a benefit to him as long as this piece will be at river hook, but he's. 1241 02:27:33.990 --> 02:27:45.180 Laurie Dodge: In conversations with him he's really amenable to being available to any kind of programming that we want to do right now, what we have is experience river hook, but we could want him to do other things. 1242 02:27:45.510 --> 02:27:55.200 Laurie Dodge: We could, as we can bring people onto onto site, we can do things with the school, we can beam them out to the school, we can go to a studio and. 1243 02:27:56.250 --> 02:28:02.850 Laurie Dodge: So they've been very kind in the three artists Peter his wife cassie and mark added Barry also are really. 1244 02:28:03.570 --> 02:28:15.210 Laurie Dodge: very interested in helping us figure out what art looks like at river hook longer term because, as you guys may remember there's a clearing sort of across from Janet wharton died sold house. 1245 02:28:16.080 --> 02:28:30.150 Laurie Dodge: That is a that's been assigned, and the design vision as a space for public art and it can take on, you know the reality of it can take on many different meanings. 1246 02:28:30.570 --> 02:28:40.470 Laurie Dodge: As we take advantage of opportunities that are presented to us that align with what we see as our vision for for riverhead so we're super excited about it. 1247 02:28:41.040 --> 02:28:51.060 Karen Tarapata: yeah I would just interject that we get a piece of sculpture, for a year we sort of set the intention of having future exhibitions. 1248 02:28:51.990 --> 02:29:02.100 Karen Tarapata: Just for the cost of the rider on our insurance policy which is $20 a month or $21 a month, it was funny it took us so long to get. 1249 02:29:02.520 --> 02:29:06.630 Karen Tarapata: A response from our insurance company, and then they come back with this little tiny number. 1250 02:29:07.200 --> 02:29:25.380 Karen Tarapata: So I thought that it's a great public benefit at very little cost to the village, the friends of ever hook are covering the other costs, so I would like to ask that someone make a motion to accept this proposal from the friends i've ever hooked and. 1251 02:29:26.610 --> 02:29:31.860 Karen Tarapata: allow them to install the sculpture, for a year it's pretty agreement. 1252 02:29:33.630 --> 02:29:34.470 Laurie Dodge: Am I allowed to. 1253 02:29:34.590 --> 02:29:35.820 Laurie Dodge: Am I allowed to move. 1254 02:29:36.300 --> 02:29:37.260 Laurie Dodge: I still move. 1255 02:29:38.400 --> 02:29:38.910 Laurie Dodge: Sorry. 1256 02:29:39.720 --> 02:29:40.170 sylviajeff: Is there any. 1257 02:29:44.040 --> 02:29:45.780 Karen Tarapata: All right, all in favor say Aye. 1258 02:29:49.770 --> 02:29:50.520 Kennon Rothchild: I can. 1259 02:29:51.480 --> 02:29:54.180 Karen Tarapata: hs I Karen anatomy. 1260 02:29:55.500 --> 02:29:57.420 Karen Tarapata: that's great oh. 1261 02:29:57.510 --> 02:29:59.370 Karen Tarapata: Another wonderful thing, I went today. 1262 02:29:59.760 --> 02:30:03.720 Karen Tarapata: I went over to red hill nursery and I purchased. 1263 02:30:03.810 --> 02:30:24.300 Karen Tarapata: A green red oak trees, with the money that we got from jewel Community solar will are planting trees and we're going to put install them in on our day as part of our little event it's it's so it's at no cost to the village oak trees are specifically called. 1264 02:30:25.920 --> 02:30:41.520 Karen Tarapata: anchor trees, or you know they are, they are the trees that provide the most sustenance to the most number of animals and insects so planting those now in creating a small oak grove. 1265 02:30:42.330 --> 02:30:52.860 Karen Tarapata: is a wonderful wonderful way to show the village that we have a plan for river hook that will go on for centuries. 1266 02:30:53.610 --> 02:31:09.810 Karen Tarapata: This oaks you know are such wonderful trees, they last a very long time we're getting three because it's recommended now that you plant three of the species together they communicate, as you know, by the Michael brazell fungi with each other and three will be healthier. 1267 02:31:11.070 --> 02:31:27.960 Karen Tarapata: And it becomes an a great teaching tool they'll be visible from the ramble through from the driveway as you ramble through the property and if I think it'll be a good way to begin to solicit donations to put more trees on the property. 1268 02:31:29.880 --> 02:31:37.320 Karen Tarapata: just wanted to share that i'm very excited about that was fun, it was hard to find out, I guess nurseries are not really carrying them anymore. 1269 02:31:38.340 --> 02:31:46.260 Karen Tarapata: Because they don't move as fast as maples but it doesn't matter, this is, as you heard from marcy bankers letter we don't need more maples yeah. 1270 02:31:46.560 --> 02:31:47.760 Laurie Dodge: We have a lot of maples. 1271 02:31:48.450 --> 02:31:54.300 Karen Tarapata: it's very exciting and they're beautiful beautiful trees, the yard man help me pick them out so. 1272 02:31:55.920 --> 02:31:56.760 Laurie Dodge: exciting. 1273 02:31:58.350 --> 02:32:00.420 Laurie Dodge: To me guys all know, but they all know of. 1274 02:32:00.420 --> 02:32:04.230 Laurie Dodge: The event next week right everyone's been reading everyone got the. 1275 02:32:04.410 --> 02:32:11.010 Karen Tarapata: might have actually no we just our next next Saturday the 24th is our Bergen. 1276 02:32:12.060 --> 02:32:21.780 Karen Tarapata: And so we sort of created an arbor day event, you know we did one two years ago at the old style meeting house hopefully we'll have better weather was. 1277 02:32:21.840 --> 02:32:22.770 Karen Tarapata: bitterly cold. 1278 02:32:23.010 --> 02:32:35.010 Karen Tarapata: yeah terrible we're hoping for better weather we've got a local poet who is going to read her poem that was suggested by Rosemary Feral from the. 1279 02:32:36.780 --> 02:32:41.280 Karen Tarapata: library she they're doing a poetry walk so the poetry head and a home has been. 1280 02:32:42.750 --> 02:32:50.790 Karen Tarapata: printed on a card and i've installed it in the notice board on river hook down at the north broadway entrance which is going to come. 1281 02:32:51.270 --> 02:33:06.300 Karen Tarapata: i'll thank Joel Community solar for the money for the trees we'll talk a little bit about recycling composting This is all there's a little enlightened self interest here too, because this is where our next Ms for report. 1282 02:33:07.650 --> 02:33:15.690 Karen Tarapata: This event gives us credits towards our next report, like the one we just adopted or accepted today. 1283 02:33:16.980 --> 02:33:32.970 Karen Tarapata: will be able to hand out information about stormwater management about doing proper construction and so fencing it gives us a chance to get people on the property and fulfill our requirements of public education on stormwater in green initiatives. 1284 02:33:33.210 --> 02:33:40.830 Laurie Dodge: And it'll be we're going to have bees there's a beekeeper we're gonna have bees and we have a worm then and worm composting. 1285 02:33:41.910 --> 02:33:42.330 sylviajeff: worry. 1286 02:33:44.640 --> 02:33:47.070 Laurie Dodge: you'll have to show up to learn more about it Jeff I. 1287 02:33:47.070 --> 02:33:48.870 Laurie Dodge: can provide a lot of. 1288 02:33:49.740 --> 02:33:52.350 Laurie Dodge: Information about that one at this point. 1289 02:33:53.580 --> 02:33:54.030 Karen Tarapata: meeting at. 1290 02:33:54.060 --> 02:34:05.370 Karen Tarapata: 10 o'clock by the herring House and by 11 we figure that will be done with 11 will actually plant, the tree and then we'll spend some time. 1291 02:34:05.940 --> 02:34:17.280 Karen Tarapata: Put getting the hillside in front of the House, ready to put down the next set of charts there are some of this raking to do and some thistles to pop out of the ground and if will and. 1292 02:34:17.310 --> 02:34:18.060 Karen Tarapata: Also, oh. 1293 02:34:18.210 --> 02:34:20.130 Karen Tarapata: I had the dp w dump a load. 1294 02:34:20.160 --> 02:34:25.590 Karen Tarapata: Of topsoil by the herring house we're going to plant some grass by the front door. 1295 02:34:29.910 --> 02:34:31.770 Karen Tarapata: So maybe tomorrow i'll be able to actually. 1296 02:34:33.720 --> 02:34:35.550 Karen Tarapata: E blast a poster or some. 1297 02:34:35.550 --> 02:34:36.180 Karen Tarapata: information. 1298 02:34:36.210 --> 02:34:37.050 out to people. 1299 02:34:38.130 --> 02:34:39.120 18456426153: I just been putting this. 1300 02:34:39.150 --> 02:34:39.990 thing together. 1301 02:34:41.130 --> 02:34:46.200 Karen Tarapata: It just it just sort of came together at the last day but we're gonna have fun. 1302 02:34:48.390 --> 02:34:50.730 Karen Tarapata: One other thing one last thing. 1303 02:34:51.810 --> 02:34:52.500 Karen Tarapata: Actually, to. 1304 02:34:54.030 --> 02:35:02.580 Karen Tarapata: The old stone meeting house stephanie staring who did the concert there has a student who wants to do her recital, this is a student at the. 1305 02:35:03.360 --> 02:35:13.110 Karen Tarapata: masters school over in dobbs ferry and it would just be a few people and they would like to do it at the old style meeting house, because he poohsticks are so good. 1306 02:35:14.250 --> 02:35:35.070 Karen Tarapata: But I wanted to just clear it with members of the board, because we will have we've not had that open to the public, and I think we can do it easily with social distancing, but I wanted to ask the board if they were comfortable and allowing a small socially distanced. 1307 02:35:36.090 --> 02:35:39.030 Karen Tarapata: indoor performance on June 5. 1308 02:35:40.620 --> 02:35:52.170 Karen Tarapata: I can bring over the air cleaner, we can have we haven't we do have air, you know purifiers you can run an air purifier because the only person will be on mass will be the flute player. 1309 02:35:53.250 --> 02:36:04.500 Karen Tarapata: And we can separate the chairs, but it's really and it would not be any even 50% of the capacity allowed by law, but I do want to clear it with you, first, I told stephanie I get back to her. 1310 02:36:06.330 --> 02:36:06.900 discussion. 1311 02:36:10.530 --> 02:36:12.960 Laurie Dodge: I mean I wouldn't go to it but. 1312 02:36:14.940 --> 02:36:20.040 Laurie Dodge: i'm not ready to do that, but not that I was invited i'm not not saying that. 1313 02:36:21.240 --> 02:36:23.970 Kennon Rothchild: If the door open and windows open open them. 1314 02:36:26.040 --> 02:36:33.690 Karen Tarapata: We can have you know yeah that's what I was thinking, the door open and it really would be a few students and kids parents. 1315 02:36:35.460 --> 02:36:38.850 Karen Tarapata: So I just wanted to let you know that that was. 1316 02:36:39.300 --> 02:36:47.880 Laurie Dodge: I mean we're allowed to do that right, I mean restaurants are opening at this point with with more than 50% water they had 75% or. 1317 02:36:48.960 --> 02:36:50.730 Laurie Dodge: What are legally allowed to do it. 1318 02:36:51.300 --> 02:37:09.840 Karen Tarapata: Yes, we are so I just wanted to the opening movie theaters so I thought, if we had a very limited number of people, I mean if you want it, if you want to set a number, but I thought, if less than 50% of the capacity that's allowed each family group six more than six feet apart. 1319 02:37:10.950 --> 02:37:12.690 That we could allow her to do it. 1320 02:37:14.820 --> 02:37:15.930 sylviajeff: If there's no. 1321 02:37:17.400 --> 02:37:19.890 sylviajeff: When on the hook for any problems that you know. 1322 02:37:21.150 --> 02:37:26.790 sylviajeff: Somebody getting sick or something everybody has to make a decision about the stuff so i'm a paper that. 1323 02:37:27.450 --> 02:37:36.930 Karen Tarapata: Okay, good it's not something we need a resolution on, I just want to because we didn't officially close the also meeting House we don't have to officially open it. 1324 02:37:38.700 --> 02:37:39.870 Laurie Dodge: yeah i'm okay with it. 1325 02:37:40.740 --> 02:37:41.160 michael esmay: I think. 1326 02:37:42.930 --> 02:37:57.300 Karen Tarapata: Maybe I can always have them sign a waiver, but I think that would create more problems than just having them by family group and having a you know, a contact Tracy i'll make sure that we have everybody's name ahead of time. 1327 02:37:58.680 --> 02:38:01.800 Laurie Dodge: that's a good idea yeah, just in case. 1328 02:38:01.950 --> 02:38:04.320 Karen Tarapata: they're working I guess list here we go. 1329 02:38:04.350 --> 02:38:07.110 sylviajeff: due diligence yeah guest list. 1330 02:38:07.650 --> 02:38:11.550 Karen Tarapata: she'll do that I know she knows that she was already telling me she goes exactly will be there. 1331 02:38:12.930 --> 02:38:26.970 Karen Tarapata: The last thing is here's a question, there is a wedding at 530 North broadway know well, what is it is that there is that correct yeah it is what is the address Carol is at 530 North broadway. 1332 02:38:28.200 --> 02:38:30.150 18456426153: you're presented by. 1333 02:38:32.490 --> 02:38:33.690 Karen Tarapata: On Saturday. 1334 02:38:35.730 --> 02:38:52.110 Karen Tarapata: June 26 you're having a wedding and they wanted a parking permit for North broadway for 20 cars, now that from 430 until 10pm on June 26. 1335 02:38:52.950 --> 02:38:53.820 Laurie Dodge: Did they are there. 1336 02:38:54.420 --> 02:39:05.430 Karen Tarapata: yeah they live there and they have a driveway but they they're projecting overflow 20 cars Now this is closer to wind down in the park, because my first book problem was. 1337 02:39:05.910 --> 02:39:06.840 18456426153: If people park on. 1338 02:39:06.870 --> 02:39:07.980 Karen Tarapata: North broadway anyone. 1339 02:39:07.980 --> 02:39:09.750 18456426153: who's walking down to the hooks going to just. 1340 02:39:09.840 --> 02:39:17.310 Karen Tarapata: hop on, but if they're over backed by winding down, do you think it would be permissible for us to give them a. 1341 02:39:18.990 --> 02:39:21.480 Karen Tarapata: five and a half hour permit for parking. 1342 02:39:23.220 --> 02:39:25.680 Laurie Dodge: i'd say yes, I mean for me it's just. 1343 02:39:25.710 --> 02:39:27.900 Laurie Dodge: You know people have events and. 1344 02:39:29.220 --> 02:39:33.780 Laurie Dodge: I mean they're doing the right thing by asking us and we allowed for that right didn't we. 1345 02:39:33.960 --> 02:39:35.130 sylviajeff: yeah I agree. 1346 02:39:36.630 --> 02:39:49.590 Laurie Dodge: yeah I think we should do it, why we wouldn't want to, and I think your points well taken it's not like it's not like it's near the hook and people can mistake those cars for being people who are at the hook it's far enough away. 1347 02:39:50.400 --> 02:40:00.480 Karen Tarapata: yeah because, otherwise, and they will have a valet Park, so there will be somebody there managing and correctly positioning the car it isn't just a free for all. 1348 02:40:00.600 --> 02:40:05.310 Laurie Dodge: yeah it's not a random pass on the sidewalk driving over stones. 1349 02:40:06.450 --> 02:40:11.550 Karen Tarapata: Exactly you know what maybe we asked them to notice send a notice to the neighbors. 1350 02:40:12.810 --> 02:40:26.010 Laurie Dodge: It could, and they could also make little like we used to do for river hook, which is just you know, like on official river hook business, so that people noticed oh yeah Okay, there are cars parked here they're not random people just. 1351 02:40:26.760 --> 02:40:27.930 Laurie Dodge: Here we go messing up the. 1352 02:40:27.930 --> 02:40:28.440 grass. 1353 02:40:29.580 --> 02:40:32.490 Karen Tarapata: And notice to the neighbors I think that's. 1354 02:40:32.640 --> 02:40:33.180 18456426153: A nice. 1355 02:40:35.220 --> 02:40:38.040 Kennon Rothchild: thing the willows removed from that property, so they have room to. 1356 02:40:41.520 --> 02:40:45.180 Karen Tarapata: God yeah because you know they can't they can't really part of. 1357 02:40:47.430 --> 02:40:51.750 Karen Tarapata: What they can there right there's the drainage ditches there okay i'm just trying to make sure they're not. 1358 02:40:52.260 --> 02:41:00.930 Laurie Dodge: We don't want anybody else's it is just what just 530 after look I don't yeah I don't pay attention to the numbers oh look next time I walk. 1359 02:41:02.190 --> 02:41:06.210 Karen Tarapata: Well that's The last thing I have a so we can give them their pro. 1360 02:41:06.210 --> 02:41:07.290 18456426153: But I don't think we need to. 1361 02:41:07.290 --> 02:41:08.520 Karen Tarapata: vote on it, do we Carol. 1362 02:41:10.170 --> 02:41:10.680 18456426153: um. 1363 02:41:11.820 --> 02:41:15.960 18456426153: I think you should just take something that you're in agreement with it so. 1364 02:41:16.620 --> 02:41:19.020 18456426153: All right, I don't know if you have to make I don't think you really have to. 1365 02:41:19.800 --> 02:41:20.790 make a motion. 1366 02:41:22.590 --> 02:41:27.390 18456426153: granted permission there we go the board grant granted permission. 1367 02:41:28.140 --> 02:41:35.880 Karen Tarapata: To 530 North broadway for and the date and the time and the cars with the provisions of. 1368 02:41:36.900 --> 02:41:44.280 Karen Tarapata: Putting a note of putting something on the dashboard as a car and some and sending a notice to the neighbors who would be affected. 1369 02:41:46.350 --> 02:41:46.620 Laurie Dodge: All right. 1370 02:41:48.780 --> 02:41:50.040 Karen Tarapata: that's all i've got. 1371 02:41:51.030 --> 02:41:51.630 Laurie Dodge: where's the. 1372 02:41:51.720 --> 02:41:55.800 Laurie Dodge: where's the beer and peanuts that we always talk about chase. 1373 02:41:56.040 --> 02:41:56.730 Karen Tarapata: No more. 1374 02:42:00.630 --> 02:42:01.110 Karen Tarapata: peanuts. 1375 02:42:01.140 --> 02:42:02.040 Karen Tarapata: You want now. 1376 02:42:03.030 --> 02:42:06.510 18456426153: I need everybody to listen for just a second and tell me if you can hear this. 1377 02:42:11.700 --> 02:42:12.120 18456426153: yeah. 1378 02:42:12.780 --> 02:42:14.220 Laurie Dodge: God it was a pop. 1379 02:42:14.250 --> 02:42:15.150 Laurie Dodge: of some sort I. 1380 02:42:17.250 --> 02:42:19.620 Karen Tarapata: want to know why, because this is carol's. 1381 02:42:19.740 --> 02:42:21.480 Karen Tarapata: Last regular. 1382 02:42:21.720 --> 02:42:22.230 Meeting. 1383 02:42:24.390 --> 02:42:25.560 Laurie Dodge: No wonder she's so. 1384 02:42:25.560 --> 02:42:26.760 sylviajeff: Happy you. 1385 02:42:28.710 --> 02:42:30.060 18456426153: Know hip hip hooray. 1386 02:42:30.180 --> 02:42:32.130 18456426153: hip hip hooray. 1387 02:42:32.610 --> 02:42:35.160 Karen Tarapata: Carol, thank you for you know you know how. 1388 02:42:35.640 --> 02:42:44.970 18456426153: yep yep I just decided I would I know this is on the record and everything but I said, I would just i'm here by myself i'm drinking a little toast to myself. 1389 02:42:45.600 --> 02:42:50.460 18456426153: And we made it this far 30 years so Thank you everyone. 1390 02:42:50.790 --> 02:42:51.630 18456426153: will miss you. 1391 02:42:52.170 --> 02:42:53.070 Kennon Rothchild: miss you yeah. 1392 02:42:53.220 --> 02:42:53.940 Kennon Rothchild: Thanks so much. 1393 02:42:53.970 --> 02:42:54.750 sylviajeff: So much. 1394 02:42:54.930 --> 02:42:56.490 sylviajeff: Thank you Tara has been a pleasure. 1395 02:42:58.260 --> 02:42:59.610 18456426153: Number on block island. 1396 02:42:59.640 --> 02:43:02.970 18456426153: i'm gonna call okay good. 1397 02:43:04.110 --> 02:43:05.430 Karen Tarapata: She doesn't have to pick up. 1398 02:43:07.170 --> 02:43:08.010 Laurie Dodge: email to. 1399 02:43:10.920 --> 02:43:13.710 Karen Tarapata: so little lion around the village sell. 1400 02:43:15.630 --> 02:43:17.100 Karen Tarapata: All right, with someone make a motion. 1401 02:43:17.370 --> 02:43:18.540 To close, the meeting. 1402 02:43:20.670 --> 02:43:26.730 Laurie Dodge: i'll make the motion that we close the meeting at 944 on April 15. 1403 02:43:28.230 --> 02:43:28.770 Karen Tarapata: Maybe we'll. 1404 02:43:28.830 --> 02:43:30.270 Karen Tarapata: never get one this long. 1405 02:43:30.270 --> 02:43:30.570 again. 1406 02:43:32.370 --> 02:43:34.080 sylviajeff: I will gladly second. 1407 02:43:35.400 --> 02:43:36.840 Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye. 1408 02:43:37.110 --> 02:43:37.650 Aye. 1409 02:43:39.570 --> 02:43:40.380 Laurie Dodge: Aye laurie. 1410 02:43:41.250 --> 02:43:41.850 Kennon Rothchild: I can. 1411 02:43:42.180 --> 02:43:42.990 sylviajeff: I Jeff. 1412 02:43:43.620 --> 02:43:44.610 18456426153: I Karen. 1413 02:43:45.210 --> 02:43:45.630 Karen Tarapata: jell. 1414 02:43:46.200 --> 02:43:47.940 Laurie Dodge: O night everybody. 1415 02:43:48.030 --> 02:43:49.260 Kennon Rothchild: And everybody goodnight. 1416 02:43:50.040 --> 02:43:51.330 Kennon Rothchild: goodnight Carol Thank you. 1417 02:43:53.280 --> 02:43:53.850 18456426153: Dear. 1418 02:43:54.330 --> 02:43:54.780 Karen Tarapata: Thank you. 1419 02:43:55.980 --> 02:43:57.210 Heather Candella: Thank you goodnight. 1420 02:43:57.690 --> 02:43:58.620 goodnight.