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Karen Tarapata: Good evening everyone, this is the village of upper night Board of Trustees regular meeting.

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Karen Tarapata: December 16 2021 we do have a quorum of lori dodge Jeff Epstein and rough childhood rothschilds so just joined and myself here entire pata we're expecting trustee Mike as May to join presently.

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Karen Tarapata: And I would say that we could start the meeting with having our unity officer now's Davies, give the police report.

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18456395980: Hello good afternoon everybody hope you can hear me correct.

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18456395980: yeah good good good good, so I ran the numbers from the last meeting until today, there were no car accidents in the village, which absolutely amazes me, I think that that's fantastic.

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18456395980: Our officers continue to do area checks of different locations in the village they do school checks and they're doing cultural and religious checks, they make sure they do those every day.

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18456395980: There were no animal calls there was one call for assistance, which was on North broadway and ended up being a garbage company put a accidentally put a dumpster.

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18456395980: In the wrong to went to the wrong address, so our officers were down there and were able to figure out and get got the dumpster moved.

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18456395980: There were no burglaries that happened in the village, there was a one fire.

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18456395980: And it was on a cedar avenue, and it ended up being a defective water heater that caught on fire and caused a smoke condition inside the House no fireworks.

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18456395980: There were no fraud or scams reported in the village, but the the usual ones are still going on, and we are starting to see, although not in quarks that i'm starting to hear about a coded scam.

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18456395980: And, basically, what happens is a resident will get a call from somebody who says that they're from a health department.

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18456395980: And they tell tell the person that you were exposed to somebody that had all that there isn't right now they're using the delta variant and they're saying that the person that.

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18456395980: exposed koba to you is currently in the hospital they're in pretty bad shape and they're recommending that they send you a pre coated kit.

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18456395980: They asked the resident to confirm their address and then they'll say okay we're going to put the pre call the testing kit in the mail but we're just going to need a credit card for the.

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18456395980: For the for the mailing for the expenses, the mailing problem is is that once they have the credit card, they can use that to make all kinds of different purchases.

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18456395980: or they'll ask the person to verify their birthday and their social security number so that's just something to look out for.

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18456395980: We did not have any juvenile complaints, there was one reported the laptop a person, a resident was expecting a delivery of a number of laptops on tompkins avenue.

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18456395980: And one of them wasn't delivered we went down there, we were able to track it back and the Amazon had delivered three laptops instead of four.

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18456395980: They ended up having the other one on the truck and they were able to deliver it so it was not an actual larceny.

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18456395980: There were no larceny from vehicles in the village, but again make sure you at the residents know that we're still having that issue in town.

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18456395980: People are going into you know people's Anwar cars at this point, so this reminds the residents to make sure that they keep their vehicles lock but also make sure that they bring their keys keys in.

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18456395980: As everybody knows, or hopefully knows the noise ordinance with the leaf blowers expired yesterday, today, we had to call a one on one on on North broadway.

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18456395980: The one on one excel or officer responded as well as the new code enforcement officer and it was handled fantastically our officers had.

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18456395980: Very high praise for the code enforcement officer, so thank you very much for that the one on North broadway by the time the officer got there, it was all quiet today mark that as.

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18456395980: Not not as unfounded, but I know property damage reports, there were no reports of anybody coming into the village to take or go through the recycling, which is good.

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18456395980: topic that I added that this month is ongoing speed complaints that our traffic unit is aware of, as well as or or parole officers oh so we have complaints of speeding on Capitol heights on old mountain.

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18456395980: Speeding and parking issues on North broadway by the elementary school speeding on upper birchwood and overnight parker's in the village now, there were no stolen cars in the village, but we have had a number of them in the village in the in the town.

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18456395980: All those where people leaving their key fobs in the car, there were no suspicious incidents in the village or no robbery calls no trespassing calls.

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18456395980: In a county wide there was a increase in the overdoses year to date there's been 350 which resulted in 58 deaths and 292 people survived.

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18456395980: But it's out of Clark sound we had 104 reported overdoses with 17 people dying and 87 people surviving and again we're still having that issue that I brought up last month with fighting fentanyl in the marijuana.

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18456395980: that's my report if anybody has any questions or comments.

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18456395980: be more than happy to listen to them and I forgot to mention before that let's add in for any any who's in charge of special operations is a is also with me.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Excellent.

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18456395980: Is anybody does anybody have any questions comments anything they would that they want to report anything that they feel that we should be looking more into.

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Kennon Rothchild: That.

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Kennon Rothchild: I would just say yeah at least from my perspective, no and i'm glad to see that we basically have amongst the most boring reports have ever had.

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18456395980: A lot of civic associations, this is it's good to be boring but, as I always say that you know when people find out that there's not much going on that's when the bad people tend to go into there and start doing stuff so we can't wait, are we cannot let our guard down.

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Village Clerk: We have a question in the chat How was the noise complaint on lexile handle did it results in a ticket.

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18456395980: It.

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Karen Tarapata: What do you want me to answer that for.

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Karen Tarapata: an officer absolutely that'd be fantastic.

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Karen Tarapata: yeah that'd be great yes, this, I see that that question came from Harry better Oh yes, we got a call this morning about this, the complaint.

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Karen Tarapata: I was going to be in village home, it was referred to our code enforcement officer he went and he issued a notice.

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Karen Tarapata: A violation which is not a ticket, yet it is it gives you an opportunity to comply.

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Karen Tarapata: that's what we're trying to do at this point because we're still working for compliance we're not trying to be punitive we're changing behaviors.

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Karen Tarapata: He spoke to the homeowner and he also spoke to the landscaper who was said oh I wasn't sure you know, they said something, but now they're aware and we know they're aware, so no a ticket was not issued we're still in the we're still wanting compliance so that was that was good news.

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And also.

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Karen Tarapata: There were one letter saying we are we're tomorrow we will be setting up the phone numbers, so that when you call village hall you'll be able to be transferred.

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Karen Tarapata: To the code enforcement officer, either directly or to his voicemail.

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Karen Tarapata: So it will be a much simpler process, everything has taken a lot longer than we thought and it's been a lot more complicated, but we're hoping to have both his email and his phone number set up tomorrow and I will be sending out an e blast once we have those things successfully in place.

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18456395980: Do you, the only additional thing that I want to say a mayor is that if the code enforcement officer feels that there's any possibility of any kind of problem just to make sure that we're notified so that.

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18456395980: As as we do with our code enforcement officers here in clarkston will stand in the background, and a lot of times just having a police presence will make sure that people behave themselves we don't want anybody to get anybody to get hurt or anything like that.

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Karen Tarapata: that's great thing now that's that's good to know, because that's something that our code enforcement officer will have to assess, case by case.

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18456395980: I have a very close relationship with the code enforcement offices here in quarks down and they know if there's any issues will wouldn't be more than happy to go out there and help them and are there any other questions or comments.

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Karen Tarapata: It doesn't appear so.

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18456395980: Okay, as as always anybody has any questions issues be be more than happy to give me a call or an email and we'll definitely work on it, thank you very much, happy holidays everybody and.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Okay, all day.

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Thank you.

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Karen Tarapata: OK, so now they are how about the treasurer's report rich, would you like to.

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Karen Tarapata: do that.

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Richard Fortunato: Good evening everybody um.

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Richard Fortunato: first thing i'm going to need is a resolution, the resolution.

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Richard Fortunato: To pay the first payment for the new refunding bond.

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Richard Fortunato: $200,000 in principle and $13,583 and 61 cents and interest do on January 15 of 2022.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, somebody make that motion.

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Laurie Dodge: it's lori i'll make the motion.

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Laurie Dodge: Right.

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Thanks.

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Karen Tarapata: And second.

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Jeffrey Epstein: This is Jeff I will second.

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Richard Fortunato: Thank you Jeff.

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Karen Tarapata: say I.

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Laurie Dodge: I lori.

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Kennon Rothchild: Address right care.

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Richard Fortunato: Thanks can.

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Richard Fortunato: All right, second thing on the agenda chips application chips application for reimbursement of $119,265 80 cents for three paved roads wanamaker school and all mountain went out the door.

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Richard Fortunato: 30 to 60 days is usually the turnaround time for the reimbursement, I just want to let the board know.

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Richard Fortunato: edmonds is the computer system.

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Richard Fortunato: That you approved two or three months ago for the new property tax billing system for next May.

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Richard Fortunato: The systems and the software is installed.

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Richard Fortunato: The data is installed we're well underway, we have a Gemini and louie are going to be on a couple of we were on today a couple of webinars to teach us how to use the Program.

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Richard Fortunato: we're going to design a new tax bill, all within the next 60 days so we're working on the edmonds systems coming along.

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Richard Fortunato: financial statements everybody's got a copy i'm hoping of the most recent financial statement.

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Richard Fortunato: there's really no magic in there nothing for me to record.

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Richard Fortunato: The Mayor and Jeff signed all of our vouchers, you know, there are no anomalies we're not we're on target with our budget.

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Richard Fortunato: I don't see anything wrong with the financials and, as usual, if anybody has any questions you have my cell phone number.

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Richard Fortunato: Last but not least, or I don't know when we're going to do it, but I think sometime in this meeting i'm going to stay on because Karen asked me to stay on for the insurance premium issue to answer any questions so you guys are up i'm out but i'll be on.

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Richard Fortunato: Anybody have any questions on the financials whereby you can I know you look like you've got questions there can.

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Kennon Rothchild: I do that at this moment, thank you for asking, though.

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Kennon Rothchild: Thanks thanks for providing the space for me to make comments of what.

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Richard Fortunato: you're very welcome.

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Richard Fortunato: Alright, so back to Karen i'm going to just mute myself thanks guys.

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Richard Fortunato: Oh Merry Christmas and Happy New Year if.

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Richard Fortunato: You don't get the next meeting yeah.

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Richard Fortunato: i'll be here now.

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Karen Tarapata: yeah we'll See you in a little bit if.

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Karen Tarapata: we're all going to have tonight is Peggy Peggy kurtz on this evening.

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Karen Tarapata: To get the report from July Community power, yes, she is.

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Karen Tarapata: So I have to unmute her and she'll give them okay.

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Peggy Kurtz: Can you hear me.

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Karen Tarapata: Yes, we can.

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Peggy Kurtz: you hear me okay I don't know how to show my screen.

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Karen Tarapata: yeah i'll have to make you a Co host Peggy Golda.

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Peggy Kurtz: Okay Okay, it just would be helpful to be able to show to show.

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Peggy Kurtz: PowerPoint.

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Peggy Kurtz: I guess we'll.

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Karen Tarapata: make you have to make you a panelist.

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Karen Tarapata: OK, and then hold on a second and then.

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Karen Tarapata: let's see here now if she's a panelist and make her.

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Karen Tarapata: You should be able to.

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Karen Tarapata: share your video Now this is asked to start video.

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Karen Tarapata: Well heather knows what to do right.

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Laurie Dodge: Peggy.

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Laurie Dodge: We heard you before, but now.

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Peggy Kurtz: Okay, can you hear me now.

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Peggy Kurtz: yeah okay so i'm going to share my screen, but I just before I do, I just want to say, good evening, my name is Peggy Kurt some the Community coordinator for the rockland Community power Program.

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Peggy Kurtz: I work for the program administrator, which is a whole community power and I live in Upper nyack on, I just want to remind you rockland Community power is a community based clean energy program and here, let me just share my screen.

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Peggy Kurtz: Okay.

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Peggy Kurtz: Okay, can you see my screen.

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Peggy Kurtz: Yes, okay great so you may remember rocklin Community power includes six communities, all together, clark's down orange town.

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Peggy Kurtz: nyack South nyack and village of haverstraw, of course, in addition to our PR nyack arm.

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Peggy Kurtz: And we're now one year into the program so i'm here to report on the program performance and to answer any of your questions.

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Peggy Kurtz: So i'll keep this short so first of all, in terms of participation 473 upper nyack households are participating in the program on the renewable energy option, so you may you may remember.

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Peggy Kurtz: That this program replaces the standard option which is largely based on fossil fuels, I think, at this point, probably 80 something percent of.

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Peggy Kurtz: Standard energy is as fossil fuel powered by fossil fuels to replace this replaces orange and rockland standard option largely fossil fuels with 100% renewable energy.

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Peggy Kurtz: We also offered through the program a second option that's slightly less expensive that mirrors what orange and rockland provides the standard energy and is rather strikingly only three households chose to opt instead for the standard energy option.

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Peggy Kurtz: A higher percentage than usual of households in Upper niantic appear to be on.

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Peggy Kurtz: s coast, the third party suppliers, so they were not eligible to get the mailing right from the beginning and somehow sports, of course, and opted out well together in the beginning.

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Peggy Kurtz: A new mailing without recently to 59 households, these are households that either moved in recently into the village or who were previously in an escrow contract that has since expired, as always.

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Peggy Kurtz: anybody can always opt out the program at any time with there's no participation fee or there's also no exit fee.

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Peggy Kurtz: Okay now i'm looking at showing you rockland Community power, all together, so through this program 20,306 households transition into renewable energy.

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Peggy Kurtz: without raising the rates as you'll see and this entire program is Karen knows i'm very proud that this entire program started here in Upper nyan that's the creation of the program started here.

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Peggy Kurtz: And, as a result of what we did 20,000 over 20,000 households transition to clean energy and it looks like new communities will be joining this here, and it will started here in our little village.

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Peggy Kurtz: And because this program transitions entire communities were pretty much entire communities to clean energy, instead of going.

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Peggy Kurtz: household by household this is considered one of the highest impact steps, the Community can take to reduce the carbon footprint.

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Peggy Kurtz: Essentially, what I usually say when i'm speaking to new communities and it's true is that New York state has said very ambitious goals for transitioning to clean energy.

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Peggy Kurtz: 70% by 2030 and 100% carbon free by 2040 but the state can I do that without the municipalities taking action and that's essentially what this program does.

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Peggy Kurtz: So, as a result of our participation in this program, we are also already registered for points to becoming a designated clean energy community program it also counselors points toward climate smart communities.

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Peggy Kurtz: goal of the program is to transition communities to clean energy, while protecting at the same time protecting consumers from rate increases so just want to emphasize that.

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Peggy Kurtz: that the goal is to transition to clean energy or protecting consumers from rate increases, so you hearing a sea of a cost savings for the period of this last year six rocklin Community power programs to 20,306 households on clean energy saved 720 $5,342.

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Peggy Kurtz: Altogether, and an opera nyack $18,916 on.

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Karen Tarapata: Peggy we're not seeing your screen now I don't know if you're showing your screen or not i'm not saying it i'm just saying oh.

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Peggy Kurtz: yeah yeah.

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Kennon Rothchild: I can see sorry.

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Karen Tarapata: yeah.

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Michael Esmay: that's something we can see it too.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay something's clearly on my end.

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Peggy Kurtz: Okay Okay, so when you break it down per household for the average consumer move called remember keep in mind that it depends on how much.

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Peggy Kurtz: How much energy each person uses or each household uses the renewable energy savings for across a year with $36.

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Peggy Kurtz: And standard energy $101 So you can see very clearly people on staff who chose the standard energy option.

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Peggy Kurtz: save more money because fossil fuels are still slightly less expensive than renewable energy, but keep in mind that's The goal of the program is to transition as a community to clean energy without raising rates.

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Peggy Kurtz: And that is.

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Peggy Kurtz: The program has performed exactly as expected from that standpoint rates were not raised matter of fact, people had experienced life savings.

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Peggy Kurtz: These lights savings are in addition to the savings that people experience through the Community solar program if they chose to take advantage of that and those savings were approximately close to 10% of the energy bill of the elect of the electricity GM sorry.

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Peggy Kurtz: Okay, so i've just said that the point of the program really is the transition from clean energy.

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Peggy Kurtz: We avoided 700 metric tons of carbon dioxide over two years that's the equivalent to avoiding 22,356 miles driven by an average gas powered passenger car and the equivalent to the carbon sequestered by close to 11 acres of US forest in one year.

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Peggy Kurtz: And that's that's that's the real point of the program through the Community solar program 39 upper nyack households.

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Peggy Kurtz: chose to participate to enroll, this was an opt in program so far and $1,950 was raised for local tree planting and trees were planted in revenue.

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Peggy Kurtz: This so we've been waiting for approval for the opt out Community solar, there are substantial benefits for consumers through this program.

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Peggy Kurtz: However, I have to say there's been a good way because the public service Commission has put all of our Community solar approvals temporarily on hold.

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Peggy Kurtz: that's unfortunate we're looking into a few possibilities one of those possibilities might be to.

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Peggy Kurtz: bring back the opt in program so people can take advantage of that while they're working out their their issues.

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Peggy Kurtz: But in the meantime we're not offering Community solar and the reason why I emphasize that is just to say that.

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Peggy Kurtz: Any Community scholars that are sending out mailings are going door to door are not programs from the village.

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Peggy Kurtz: So consumers should will have to do their own work to vet the program before deciding to enroll again sometimes there are clauses in there that people miss there are high exit fees that kind of thing, so I just want to emphasize that.

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Peggy Kurtz: Whatever you see, in the meantime, is not through the villages, not through Joel Community power.

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Peggy Kurtz: Okay, I also want to emphasize things we're talking about that the stronger consumer protection, this is something that I had completely underestimated before I began working for the Program.

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Peggy Kurtz: It really protects consumers from very common bait and switch tactics by the Eskimos or third party suppliers i've spoken to.

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Peggy Kurtz: I feel like i've spoken to hundreds of people over the last year and a half and Nearly everybody on a on an escrow and one of these third party suppliers.

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Peggy Kurtz: is paying too much they bring them people in at a low introductory rate and then they raised the rates on time and people pay sometimes two or three times, but then we pay through the program so one of the real strengths of the program is much stronger consumer protection.

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Peggy Kurtz: I also wanted to just mention the Community engagement and assistance continues throughout the life of the Program.

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Peggy Kurtz: That includes the email updates for the Community that Karen has very kindly been forwarding to.

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Peggy Kurtz: email this really want people to understand the program and understand the environmental benefits and the cost benefits, and it also includes the helpline Monday to Friday nine to five, which is there to assist people throughout the life of the Program.

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Peggy Kurtz: And then, finally, I just want to mention that the program ends October for one year, it seems incredible that we've already halfway through it.

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Peggy Kurtz: But it ends October 31 2022 and the renewal process actually begins mid to late spring 2022 some of it you've already done you've already passed the CCA enabling law, etc, so you know it's not quite as much as last time, but should go a lot more easily.

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Peggy Kurtz: I also want to mention that the current six participating communities will probably be joined by almost surely be joined by civil war rocklin communities and possibly some orange county communities to.

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Peggy Kurtz: And now i'm ready for questions.

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Karen Tarapata: I just want to make a couple of comments first 473 households participating is fantastic and a community of about of less than 800 households, so I the fact that we're well over 50% is really quite an accomplishment a lot to be proud of Peggy.

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Karen Tarapata: The other.

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Peggy Kurtz: One, as I mentioned some households never got the original mailing because they are on an s calm.

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Karen Tarapata: Right, I just wanted to mention that, and I also wanted to mention that our code enforcement officer Mike nolan can completed his energy code enforcement training and he has submitted that energy code enforcement training to nicer to for the plates that it will bring to.

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Karen Tarapata: The program climate smart program that your personal.

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Peggy Kurtz: office we did that he did that, through the clean energy communities Program.

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Karen Tarapata: i'd have you have to test me tomorrow.

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Karen Tarapata: pegs i'm not getting the line we have a public hearing it.

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Peggy Kurtz: Seventh sure.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay, so i'm trying to make everyone aware, though, that we.

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Karen Tarapata: have completed that I could it says here, thank you, Nice sorta has received submission on behalf of your community, as detailed below.

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Karen Tarapata: name of Community village of upper nice high impact action energy code enforcement training leadership round we are reviewing your submission will notify you by email, and the next few weeks and it, you know clean energies community.

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Karen Tarapata: So it says yeah cleaning the Jews Community team.

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Karen Tarapata: So he completed them.

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Karen Tarapata: But thank you Peggy I think this is great, and we look forward to next spring, as we start the renewal and I hope that more communities join us.

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Peggy Kurtz: They I think they will be and I always want to answer questions so.

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Peggy Kurtz: They can contact me at any time.

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Karen Tarapata: Very good, thank you.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay, so we have a German have a continued public hearing, I think this be good to get out way before we do our next.

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Karen Tarapata: public hearing and.

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Karen Tarapata: heather would you see, this is an adjournment of the continued public hearing the application for temporary moratorium variants 315 North Highland avenue to January 2022 the regular meeting.

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Karen Tarapata: Is the former alliance seminary building yeah oh yes.

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Kennon Rothchild: i'm sorry i'm sorry to interrupt you two things one is.

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Kennon Rothchild: My videos been stopped by a host so you can put me back on someone can that might have been Peggy accidentally.

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Kennon Rothchild: Do.

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Karen Tarapata: That okay i'll see you.

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Karen Tarapata: There you guys can see if I can get you back on here.

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Kennon Rothchild: There you go hold on we go.

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Kennon Rothchild: The second thing is I didn't we passed a resolution to adjourn this to our January meeting in our special meeting last week.

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Kennon Rothchild: Yes, so it shows so in the Minutes.

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Karen Tarapata: We didn't know we did we did we're just announcing it to the public here i'm sorry we don't have to vote on this it's just wanted to explain to the public what this is that the applicant had requested this adjournment and the was adjourned correctly is Ken says at our special meeting.

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Karen Tarapata: Thursday night.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay now 730 and we have a public hearing.

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Karen Tarapata: heather would you read the notice.

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Village Clerk: Please take notice that the board of trustees of the village of upper nyack will hold a public hearing on December 16 2021 at 7:30pm or as soon.

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Village Clerk: As practical thereafter to consider the adoption of the proposed local number 11 of 2021 a local law repealing and replacing the zoning ordinance.

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Village Clerk: Of the village of upper nyack adopted January 18 1962 last amended on April 13 2021 by local law number three of 2021 commonly known as the 1960s zoning ordinance of village of upper nyack.

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Village Clerk: Due to the coven 19 pandemic the village Board of Trustees will not be meeting in person, in accordance with the chapter 417 and the laws 2021.

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Village Clerk: signed by the New York State Governor Kathy vocals suspending the certain provisions of the New York state open meetings law.

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Village Clerk: The meeting will be held via video conferencing, and a transcript will be held at the end provided at a later date.

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Village Clerk: The public will have the opportunity to see and hear the meeting live and provide comments, a meeting agenda will be posted on the villages website.

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Village Clerk: up or nine X and y.us to access the meeting, please visit visit the villages website for meeting link and registration information, the text of this approach proposed local law is available in the villages website at upper nyack dash and y.us.

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Village Clerk: backslash zoning code update.

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Village Clerk: comments and questions can also be provided via email before the meeting to heather condello village market village corporate overnight X and y.us dated December 10 2021 heather condello village park well.

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Karen Tarapata: Alright, this is an.

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Karen Tarapata: application, this is, this is the i'm sorry I was just looking at my notes.

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Village Clerk: here.

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Village Clerk: yeah i'm sorry I got them backwards, but they were full set for 730.

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Karen Tarapata: The agenda is 730 in the other one is 745 so I guess i'll ask them, since we are doing it in this order Is there anyone here tonight who is on to speak about the zoning code update.

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Karen Tarapata: raise your hand and you can speak about this.

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Karen Tarapata: If there isn't anyone who wishes to speak on this tonight, I would ask for a motion to continue the public hearing to our meeting of January 20.

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Karen Tarapata: With someone make a motion to adjourn a to adjourn this public hearing not close it but adjourn it to the meeting of January 20.

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Jeffrey Epstein: And we'll move that we adjourn this meeting to our next regular scheduled meeting on January 20.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, and I get a second.

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Laurie Dodge: l'oreal second of.

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Karen Tarapata: Karen yes.

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Kennon Rothchild: So prior to the vote, of course, we assume can have a little bit of discussion about this, I mean the motions been made, but we can have discussion is that.

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Kennon Rothchild: Great, why are we adjourning.

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Karen Tarapata: Oh, we are just keeping the public hearing open until January 20.

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Karen Tarapata: For.

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Karen Tarapata: or comments for comments on the local zoning code update.

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Kennon Rothchild: And again i'm the question i'm asking is for what purpose, I mean I understand the purposes for.

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Kennon Rothchild: But there's been plenty of time for public comment, we had one we haven't had any others I don't know why we're attorney when we could.

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Kennon Rothchild: Either you know adjourned a closed public hearing and either vote or something like that, I mean I don't know why we're delaying.

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Karen Tarapata: Allow me to explain I apologize i've been so deep in it to it today, I spent all day talking to Noel that little ahead of myself we're journeying this because we just received today the comments of rockland county planning.

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Karen Tarapata: And we want.

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Karen Tarapata: to incorporate their comments during the public hearing process don't know how you can jump in and correct me if i'm saying something wrong sure so would you take it from there no.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: Sure, so so we refer this the zoning watch of rockland county planning we receive their comments today, which we can circulate.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: they've asked for some revisions and some circulation of the law to other agencies so we're going to take those comments, some of the comments we received so far.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: and make some revisions and then also, this is a type one action under secret, the adoption of the new zoning law, so the German of the public hearing at jet in January, I think the prime focus of that.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: session of the public hearing will be to review the part two of the ETF, so that you can make a determination of significance under secret so at the next session of the public hearing it will be mostly the seeker of you.

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Karen Tarapata: And, in the meantime, people can continue to submit written comments, between now and that meaning if they find something that they wish to comment on.

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Kennon Rothchild: Great thanks I mean it's I think it's useful not only for me, but perhaps from the general public to understand the process and why it may take longer than a simple let's no comments let's go forward right, I mean there's numerous.

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Kennon Rothchild: People including attorney that have a right and have made comments, although they made them today.

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Kennon Rothchild: And we of course have to have time to incorporate comments into the local law, including any of those submitted by the public to at least consider them as and include them and i'm assuming some of that consideration inclusion will be occurring in a workshop meeting of some sort.

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Karen Tarapata: Of course.

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Karen Tarapata: We are compiling that's the reason for the public hearing is to compile all the comments of interest of agencies, the public, and then we come back and we review them and we discuss it and determine the adjustments, we wish to make in the law before it is circulated in final form.

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Kennon Rothchild: Okay, thanks thanks for explaining.

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Karen Tarapata: i'm sorry I was completely thrown off by doing this, out of order because I had a little sheet from Noel of what I was going to say and it just said, sorry, thank you, I got knocked sideways can you're my anchor Thank you very much.

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Kennon Rothchild: And just i'm just an annoyance, but so.

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Karen Tarapata: you're very helpful if you're an annoyance you're my helpful, I really appreciate that.

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Kennon Rothchild: Thank you.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay, so cool, we had a first and the second, it was lori and then was there a second, to adjourn this meeting to January.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Actually, I made the motion lori submitted, so we could go.

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Karen Tarapata: There you go Thank you all right, so all in favor of this adjournment to January say I.

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Karen Tarapata: Actually we're doing really well, I was very pleased to get the comments back there were not that many just some of them were like Have you considered.

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Karen Tarapata: So overall, I would say, because of all the work that was put into the comprehensive plan that Robin county planning has found that our proposed zoning code update is.

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Karen Tarapata: pretty much an alignment with our comprehensive plan so I feel very good about the work that that we've done over the past couple of years.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay now let's have the public hearing on the application for temporary moratorium variance.

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Karen Tarapata: Either way, you read the notice.

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Village Clerk: notices here by, given that a public hearing will be held Thursday December 16 2021 at 7:30pm or as soon as practical thereafter before the new upper nyack Board of Trustees to take such action come before said board.

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Village Clerk: 536 Highland avenue llc application for temporary moratorium about variance 536 North Highland avenue village of upper nyack spl five nine dot one two dash to dash one.

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Village Clerk: And nine dot one dot one two dash one dash one six up or nyack application for various from the temporary moratorium on commercial or residential land use applications for property located in the office Ob district.

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Village Clerk: laboratory l O district, and our our for residential districts that have butts the nine w court door see local law one of.

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Village Clerk: and eight of 2021 as extended to allow the applicant to pursue land use approvals necessary to convert an existing restaurant to office space.

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Village Clerk: The property is in the LM zoning district due to coven 19 pandemic.

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Village Clerk: The Board of Trustees will not be meeting in person, in accordance with Chapter set for.

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Village Clerk: 17 of the laws of 2021 signed by the New York State Governor Kathy hopefuls suspending certain provisions of the New York state open meetings law, the meeting will be held via video conferencing, and a transcript will be held at a later date.

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Village Clerk: The public will have the opportunity to see and hear the meeting live and provide comments to access the meeting, please.

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Village Clerk: visit the villages website for the meeting link and registration information, a meeting agenda plans application materials and other information will be posted on the villages website up or nyack dash and y.us in advance of the meeting.

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Village Clerk: copies of the application are also available for public inspection of village hall during the regular business hours 9am to 12 noon.

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Village Clerk: comments and questions can also be provided via email before the meeting to heather condello village market Philip Clarke at operatic dash ny.us November 29 2020 $100 village clerks.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay, so tonight, this is we're being asked to grant a temporary.

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Karen Tarapata: waver from our temporary moratorium, and I believe so.

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Karen Tarapata: No well do we open the public hearing and then have the African speak.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: You can do it either way, I think I I would prefer if you open the public hearing have all the information presented during the course of the public hearing so that should proceed that way.

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Karen Tarapata: So would somebody make a motion to open the public here.

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Karen Tarapata: And lori second.

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Laurie Dodge: Who, who I thought I was making the motion, who did someone else make it.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Look i'll send it to your.

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Karen Tarapata: perfect.

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Laurie Dodge: I mean I don't care.

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Laurie Dodge: I just didn't hear anyone else.

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Karen Tarapata: Oh no, we just need to get it in the Minutes that's that's, the main thing all right all in favor of opening the public hearing so.

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Laurie Dodge: lori I.

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Karen Tarapata: Karen I all right, who is here as the.

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Karen Tarapata: Applicants representative tonight.

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Kier Levesque: curable back architect.

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Karen Tarapata: Great cure i'm heather would you make him a participant, so that you can share his screen.

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Karen Tarapata: i'm assuming you're going to want to share the screen, am I right here.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, Hello.

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Kier Levesque: Everyone.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Hello.

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Kier Levesque: Can you see my screen.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Yes, okay.

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Kier Levesque: This is the site plan for Casa del mar.

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Kier Levesque: Three 536 nine Thailand lcc is purchased the property.

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Kier Levesque: They are mechanical engineering company, and they are looking to install their offices, on the second floor only and maintain the restaurant on the first floor.

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Kier Levesque: The purpose of asking for a variance or a waiver is, we need to go to the land use boards for a parking variance.

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Kier Levesque: calculations which are on the drawings that you've seen and have been submitted, show that we need a variance for 18 spaces.

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Kier Levesque: I think currently the way the parking was calculated the assumption was that whatever restaurant use was on the first floor.

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Kier Levesque: It would be duplicated on the second floor and they came up with 46 or 42 parking spaces, when I use the zoning code to now calculate parking based upon office use it requires us to go for a variance for 18 more spaces, however, if you look at the.

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Kier Levesque: second floor plan can you see that.

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Kier Levesque: Seeing my second floor plan.

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Karen Tarapata: Yes, yes.

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Kier Levesque: So there is approximately eight to 10 people that will be in this space.

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Kier Levesque: And not anywhere near 18 so the variance is actually based upon how the code is applied to this second floor.

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Kier Levesque: And, as I said before, the first floor will remain the same as a restaurant.

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Karen Tarapata: I think this is a great use that that's always been an underutilized space so i'm just i'm just fascinated.

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Karen Tarapata: I do not have any questions, though.

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Michael Esmay: question.

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Michael Esmay: Can you hear me.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Yes, yes.

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Kier Levesque: Yes, I can hear you.

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Michael Esmay: Oh it's Mike.

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Michael Esmay: Will there be any other.

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Michael Esmay: activity on the site associated with this precision mechanical corporations use will be any.

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Michael Esmay: fabrication of things will be trucks were.

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Michael Esmay: You know that that that's an addition to this, this offices.

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Kier Levesque: They there's an existing warehouses everybody knows, and they are going to use that warehouse to store equipment so trucks will come and go to pick up equipment and drop off equipment.

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Kier Levesque: there's no fabrication on the site it'll just be storage of hga see equipment.

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Michael Esmay: So they have a another location where they they.

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Kier Levesque: fabricate.

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Kier Levesque: fabricate yeah yes.

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Laurie Dodge: Okay, one of the organization.

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Kier Levesque: i'm sorry I didn't understand the question.

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Laurie Dodge: What what's the what it's an hba see contract or what's the name of the organization.

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Kier Levesque: Precision mechanical.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay.

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Jeffrey Epstein: The first a quick question the first floor is going to be used, also by precision mechanical for their.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Work office work was supposed to be.

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Jeffrey Epstein: it's going to remain a restaurant.

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Kier Levesque: Yes, this is a picture, this is a.

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Kier Levesque: plan of the first floor and the restaurant is to remain.

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Kier Levesque: The kitchen the prep area everything about its to remain okay.

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Laurie Dodge: So it's the same owner or the ownership is changing.

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Kier Levesque: The ownership is changing to 536 North Highland else don't see.

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Kier Levesque: What the restaurant will remain as a restaurant.

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Kier Levesque: Who will be the tenant for the restaurant, I have no idea.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay, I have a question, who are you who is that what is that, and this is really because we're talking about.

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Karen Tarapata: A.

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Karen Tarapata: Application for a waiver, what is the hardship in waiting until the new zoning code is in place, what is the necessity of of bringing the application to the planning board now.

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Kier Levesque: Well, when will the zoning code be approved, would be the first hardship.

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Kier Levesque: This is a region recent purchase and this company is needing to move into their new offices and since there is no physical change to the building, other than.

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Kier Levesque: occupying that second floor the hardship really is the time delay between the approval by this board of the zoning Code and the implementation of the zoning code which my understanding is it could be months after it's approved by this board to be approved by the state.

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Karen Tarapata: I gosh it's usually only a month that that's once but i'm just curious because I don't believe that this is a.

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Karen Tarapata: Michael have to tell me is this an approved is this up.

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Karen Tarapata: A use that's allowed in the elmo laboratory office district or cure, you can tell me, you know the zoning code.

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Karen Tarapata: better than anybody.

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Kier Levesque: Use butter right yes.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay, so this if we grant this it is it's still within the use by right you're not you don't have to go and then and seek a number of.

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Kier Levesque: Various.

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Karen Tarapata: Data to present this plan.

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Kier Levesque: No, we don't need to use variance and we don't we don't need to change your view special permit.

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Kier Levesque: To use by right.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay, have we received any other, have we received any comments back from the adjoining properties.

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Village Clerk: We have not received any.

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Karen Tarapata: Is there anyone here tonight who wishes to speak on the topic of this change is this addition to the Casa del mores use.

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Karen Tarapata: i'll take that as a no.

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Karen Tarapata: Alright, so.

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Karen Tarapata: No well, would you like to explain what is involved in granting a waiver of a temporary moratorium, what is the how you know how is it determined if we if this is a good idea or not before I open it up to the discussion of the trustees.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: Sure, so if you recall the standard um it it the the standard is is the waiver of the moratorium necessary to avoid a hardship.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: Is it is granting the waiver to allow the applicant to proceed the land nice approvals consistent with the healthy again welfare of the village.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: And is the proposal generally consistent with a comprehensive plan and the proposed rezoning such that, so the whole point of the moratorium.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: Is kind of a freeze on new applications that something that is contrary to the comprehensive plan and the proposed zoning is not approved, right at the time that it's going to be changed so Those are the three.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: prongs of the standard necessity to avoid hardship consistency with the health, safety and welfare of the village and consistency with the comprehensive plan and the proposed rezoning.

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Karen Tarapata: Alright, well, I think we can keep the public hearing open and the trustees can speak correct discard yeah.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: I think that's a good idea, and before we circulate around to the trustees I just want to point out one thing for cure cure, I think you need to change the municipal boundary in the survey, because the tax lot 559 point 12 dash one debt 16 was one of the annexation parcels so that was.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: used to be in the ground, of course.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: down, it has been Nx, no, no, the one note go down the one that's just to the I guess to the West.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: of your site yes.

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Kier Levesque: Yes.

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Karen Tarapata: Look.

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Karen Tarapata: Inside your boundary.

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yeah.

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Michael Esmay: It was part of your property.

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Kier Levesque: This one yes.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: that's.

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Karen Tarapata: My little current tax maps as being an upper diet, because that was annexed.

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Kier Levesque: that's excellent.

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Karen Tarapata: alright.

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Karen Tarapata: Alright does with any trustees like to speak to care about these particularly about these three standards.

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Karen Tarapata: For relief from the moratorium.

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Karen Tarapata: Mike do you have any additional questions.

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Michael Esmay: Now i'm just musing about the mixed mixing of the uses the restaurant and with the office above it.

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Michael Esmay: I guess if it was New York City you'd see a lot of situations like that just have you know if the client anticipates keeping it that way, or do you think they anticipate growing and then maybe moving into that lower space.

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Kier Levesque: I have not had that conversation with this client the client is indicated to me, as I stated that the restaurant is to remain and the offices, on the second floor is is going right now.

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yeah.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Can I ask just so clarification of the usage of trucks coming on and off the property just won't have an idea is that, like going to be.

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Jeffrey Epstein: An ongoing regular cycling thing was just you know, a couple of times a week or a couple hundred today.

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Kier Levesque: it's probably morning and afternoon pick up and then whenever in the afternoon deliveries back to the warehouse.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Okay, so let's throughout the day but pick up in the morning and delivery okay like early and late one time, each.

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Kier Levesque: I don't know how to answer that.

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Karen Tarapata: Well, I think that cure correct me if i'm wrong but.

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Karen Tarapata: As part of the site plan the Department of Transportation would weigh in on the trucks going in and out to the State highway I.

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Kier Levesque: think that would be a part of the planning boards request.

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Kier Levesque: Okay, and part of that whole approval process by the planning board.

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Karen Tarapata: So the hardship is primarily the fact they just bought this building, they want to do something that it is as of right currently.

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Karen Tarapata: Does anyone have a question about the consistency is this consistent with the health, safety and welfare of the village.

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Karen Tarapata: What do you like I don't see that this is any I think it's an improvement, but that's just my my feeling.

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Jeffrey Epstein: uncomfortable with the health, safety and welfare of the village that you know, which is the second aspect of it and file with the third aspect of well as well you know that it doesn't get.

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Jeffrey Epstein: It doesn't go counter to the moratorium and what we're trying to achieve when we go after the moratorium, we put the new plan to effect and you've just explained, the first part, so I think i'm okay with that.

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Kennon Rothchild: yeah I if I were to weigh in I would say that the applicants description of their hardship is is accurate that as we've seen we've.

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Kennon Rothchild: we're still adjourning our public hearings on the local law, I can see that going on with comments and and approvals and rewriting going on till at least March.

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Kennon Rothchild: Possibly April and and and then of course state approval after that, so it seems reasonable to say, rather than make them wait for five months to make this application to.

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Kennon Rothchild: The planning boards, which then of course you know those reviews take time as well to allow them to move forward on something which, as we've noted does not seem to have an impact on criteria to or criteria three that we're considering.

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Karen Tarapata: So I would first Noel do you see anything that we should be asking about in this.

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Karen Tarapata: You see any in consistencies with the.

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Karen Tarapata: The three points.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: I know I don't as to you know the last point consistency with a proposal, the proposal uses will continue to be permitted in the new zoning law.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: Other the parking requirements will likely change so carrie you may want to take a look through the draft zoning law on the villages website and take a look at the parking requirements.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: When you make the application to the planning board if you should get that far and just kind of evaluate your compliance with those requirements yeah should they be adopted as well, so you can be prepared, if there's a change in the law.

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Kier Levesque: So.

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Kier Levesque: Why would I should be looking to the new zoning code for my parking requirements.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: Not to apply, but not, you know they they won't apply unless they are adapted and and the law becomes effective by the.

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Laurie Dodge: filing with the Department of.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: But you know, depending on when the applicant application gets me and when the zoning law gets adopted it's it's possible that it could apply even if you're granted the waiver to make the application now so just familiarize yourself with those requirements as well.

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Kier Levesque: So my understanding of the calendar at this point is i'd missed the 30 day application deadline for the January meeting I would be on the February meeting and hopefully get a little.

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Kier Levesque: sent to the zoning Board of appeals and it's probably at that planning board hearing or the zoning board hearing one of those two that there's a possibility that the zoning code will change and then i'll have to adapt the drawing to the new zoning code.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: Correct that's right yes you're correct and your assessment about the timing is correcting the you know, think of submission deadline for the February meeting for a site like yours, that would require referral to rockland county planning would be around the 18th of January.

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Kier Levesque: When you have to submit right okay i'm clear now.

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Karen Tarapata: Is there any other discussion.

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Karen Tarapata: And if not, I would ask someone to make a motion to close the public hearing.

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Kennon Rothchild: Make the motion to close the public hearing on this on this property.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, can I get a second.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, all in favor say I.

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Kennon Rothchild: Can I.

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Laurie Dodge: lori dye.

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Michael Esmay: My guy.

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Karen Tarapata: And Karen I.

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Karen Tarapata: Alright, thank you, the public hearing his clothes alright discussion of the board.

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Karen Tarapata: Do you have anything that's.

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Karen Tarapata: Why don't we why don't we think.

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Kennon Rothchild: I guess, if I were to speak on it, I would say that you know the lifting you know, giving a variance or the lifting of the moratorium in this particular case.

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Kennon Rothchild: Is falls in line with what we would want to know about and what we permit you know, in order to allow people to have the you know allowed uses of their property so i'm.

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Kennon Rothchild: i'm in favor of allowing for the lifting of the moratorium in this particular instance.

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Any other comments.

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Michael Esmay: yeah it's a it's a.

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Michael Esmay: it's a good use for the village.

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Michael Esmay: And you know.

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Michael Esmay: curious going to have to go to the Sony board planning board i'm sure there's going to be some site issues, I was thinking about what Jeff was talking about trucks coming in.

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Michael Esmay: Trying to visualize that and how they're going to access that.

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Michael Esmay: Storage building, but that that's a planning board issue.

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Michael Esmay: And you know that's farther down the road, but as far as this kind of a use no, I have no objections, and I would say that it's.

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Michael Esmay: Good for the village.

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Karen Tarapata: I agree with you Mike I think this is excellent.

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Karen Tarapata: Application First, I just want to say, I really like the fact that this is very complete very, very well prepared Thank you here you're able to really give us an idea of what's being proposed, and I appreciate that.

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Karen Tarapata: So anyone else, want to weigh in.

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Jeffrey Epstein: i'm in agreement with what the trustees have said.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, Laura do you have any any comments.

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Now.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, then I think we're pretty much in agreement with someone make a motion to grant the.

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Karen Tarapata: waiver APP variance we're all from the temporary moratorium for 536 North Highland avenue.

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Kennon Rothchild: Just can.

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Kennon Rothchild: move that we grant variance for.

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Kennon Rothchild: Permit 536 north.

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Kennon Rothchild: North Highland to go and present their plans to the planning boards.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, can I get a second.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Second.

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Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye.

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Karen Tarapata: And Karen I all right, thank you care.

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Kier Levesque: Have a great evening and happy holidays.

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to you.

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Right yeah.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay well that's that's.

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Kennon Rothchild: So Karen.

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Kennon Rothchild: I know that we sort of mixed up our.

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Kennon Rothchild: public hearings, a bit there and I see at least made here, who I imagined wanted to speak, and we are going to have it going on with the.

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Kennon Rothchild: And the zoning and the repeal and replace the zoning board when we pass it on so maybe you want to announce that we've that public hearings, been a journey.

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Karen Tarapata: Again, yes, the public here say maybe we are in receipt of your comments, we were looking at them today.

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Karen Tarapata: We are a journey, the the public hearing on the zoning code repeal and.

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Kennon Rothchild: replace I guess there's some new collection.

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Karen Tarapata: Oh, their new comments.

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Meave Tooher: Oh.

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Karen Tarapata: No, we have.

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Michael Esmay: Your.

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Karen Tarapata: Decisions crust okay hold on a second here Noel i'm going to have you weigh in here because we've adjourned.

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Karen Tarapata: Their public hearing to January 20 yeah can we can we have public comments now or should they be.

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Karen Tarapata: submitted in writing or taken to the January 20 meeting, what is the correct procedure.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: I think that we should hold off until the January 20 meeting because i'm not sure if anybody who was here for that public meeting and signed off.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: But we did maybe we have your written comments from the last meeting and as Karen mentioned, we were reviewing those comments today, we did not receive anything in addition just that first set of comments.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: And then the public hearing will be continued to January 20, at which time will be focusing some some time on the review of of the action under secret, because the take one action.

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Meave Tooher: I actually had no additional comments this evening, but thank you and I appreciate just letting me know that the hearing had been adjourned.

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Karen Tarapata: Very good.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay, thank you, thank you can i'm sorry i'm doing this on my tablet and I can't see everybody who's on I don't see the participant list, unless I go into a sub menu.

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Karen Tarapata: Alright, so the next item on our list is page 32 in your packet, it is the holidays schedule.

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Karen Tarapata: And we talked about this last week of bit.

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Karen Tarapata: And the question was because currently we have four.

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Karen Tarapata: days when the office is closed in November.

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Karen Tarapata: We were discussing whether or not we wanted, and one of the holidays, that we offer that we have with offices closed is the federal election day.

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Karen Tarapata: So the question was with the should we.

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Karen Tarapata: not have that as a holiday for the village where employees, where we close the office and perhaps instead.

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Karen Tarapata: Use the march village election how a day instead and have a have the office close on that march day with a village election is held.

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Karen Tarapata: it's a thought.

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What.

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Karen Tarapata: Eric yes, I know I know i'm going to bring something up in the moment.

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Michael Esmay: heather just hold on.

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Karen Tarapata: I understand.

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Karen Tarapata: The heather and I had spoken about this a bit if we were to do this, then the village clerk would not have that day off because that is a day when she has to run the election.

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Karen Tarapata: So, based on our conversation of at our last workshop meeting I wanted to add if we were to make the village Election Day, a day when the office is closed.

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Karen Tarapata: We would have to then offer the village clerk a floating holiday to make up for the day that she has to work because that's her one of her primary duties his village for that or does that sum up what you were going to say.

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Village Clerk: Yes.

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Karen Tarapata: So i'm just opening this back up to the trustees based on our conversation of last week, what do you think.

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Laurie Dodge: I kind of feel that they either get the election again election day or they don't they don't get a day off it's not a day off for a day off sake, in my opinion it's a day off to go and vote so.

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Laurie Dodge: There are either for me it's about using the data vote, and if we want them with we want to offer that then as a holiday, then we should do that, and if we don't, then I would just say it's just should go away, I wouldn't create another day, even if it's around our own election.

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Laurie Dodge: Because that wasn't that's not really the point it's up the point is about making voting accessible, so that you don't have a reason not to vote, because you have a job, so I just think it's a it's a different message in my mind.

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01:07:04.200 --> 01:07:11.250
Karen Tarapata: it's a very different message, but it is also we've added juneteenth, so we are adding another paid holiday.

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Karen Tarapata: And that's one reason why I was thinking to drop the holiday, that is not the federal holiday, which is the election day.

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Karen Tarapata: yeah we may gain the same number of holidays for our employees, as we have in the past, because it is a there's a cost to the village of having everyone stay home yeah.

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Karen Tarapata: Any comments any any we can leave it as it is, we can not change anything, I just wanted to say where we are currently because of the addition of the new holiday, we are now adding another unpaid another day off.

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Karen Tarapata: In the schedule.

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Michael Esmay: Karen we talked about this.

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Michael Esmay: Before my feeling was leave it as it is.

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Karen Tarapata: And just add the additional data.

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well.

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Karen Tarapata: To the annual schedule i'm just saying now it's.

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Karen Tarapata: 30 days off instead of 12 that's a lot yeah yeah.

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Jeffrey Epstein: I feel in, as I mentioned, last time, so we are we not.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Give the extra day off at this point and the hope is that all come in national day last year, obviously support, I support all kinds of stuff.

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Karen Tarapata: I think that's.

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01:08:35.760 --> 01:08:36.660
Michael Esmay: that's different.

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Michael Esmay: What do you like, the chances of that are.

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01:08:43.110 --> 01:08:45.060
Jeffrey Epstein: I don't know he's.

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Karen Tarapata: Our employees at the employee who leaves the latest leaves at 330 and if you can that they're not.

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01:08:55.290 --> 01:08:57.990
Karen Tarapata: prevented from voting by their work hours.

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01:08:59.280 --> 01:09:02.400
Michael Esmay: Well, I don't think anybody in the villages prevented from voting.

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01:09:03.240 --> 01:09:04.470
Karen Tarapata: that's what i'm saying I.

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01:09:05.610 --> 01:09:08.400
Karen Tarapata: point of this is possible to vote.

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01:09:09.540 --> 01:09:13.500
Karen Tarapata: Everyone is done by 330 in the afternoon you.

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01:09:15.210 --> 01:09:18.810
Kennon Rothchild: don't care and what is the cost of the village, to have a day off.

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01:09:19.830 --> 01:09:22.320
Kennon Rothchild: What is the actual $1.

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01:09:23.040 --> 01:09:36.060
Karen Tarapata: I would have had that I would have that a couple thousand dollars, I would have that if I was in village Hall, I have it in a folder because i'm putting together something for fema about.

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01:09:36.540 --> 01:09:38.490
Kennon Rothchild: The cost, I guess, I guess.

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Kennon Rothchild: As a person who has employees, I would propose that the cost of the village is modest compared to the sense the village employees may get that we do not care about them by taking away a holiday.

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Laurie Dodge: and getting another holiday.

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01:09:56.760 --> 01:09:58.740
Laurie Dodge: you're getting another holiday engine team.

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01:09:58.770 --> 01:10:01.980
Laurie Dodge: which they didn't have before, so this really can it would be even.

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Kennon Rothchild: that's that's how I again, I stand by my comments about how employees tend to feel about things like.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay, then that's, this is the sense of the board, I have no problem with this it's just bringing it up, so now we will add juneteenth and we will not remove the.

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Karen Tarapata: federal election holiday, that is just a village celebrated holiday and not a federal holiday it's fine good i'm onward that's done we don't have anything that we need to vote on that because there's no change.

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Karen Tarapata: next thing here is the village hall copier.

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Karen Tarapata: That is page 34 in your packet.

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Karen Tarapata: Are copier is coming to the end of its useful life and we're looking for a new.

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Karen Tarapata: One that.

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01:10:55.950 --> 01:11:07.590
Karen Tarapata: will provide a much better service and much Jill are you still on is Jill still not still on because she's the one who did all the research on this.

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Karen Tarapata: chill with you the Jews speak about this a little bit, because I know you did the research on this, let me know if you want to.

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Jillana Sinnott: um can you hear me.

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Jillana Sinnott: Yes, I don't have anything in front of me because you're putting it on the spot here.

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Karen Tarapata: But um.

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Jillana Sinnott: that's Okay, I think it's September that our leases done, but what we've done is right now three people heather myself and Donna have desktop.

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Jillana Sinnott: printers so what would be included in the lease if you have only information there my little spreadsheet.

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Jillana Sinnott: To be adding Janet to that, and there would be for printers that will be covered by beliefs, which includes all the toner the service, everything will be included, plus the main copier will also become a color copier so we've been covered for 100 color copies a month and I think.

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01:12:10.020 --> 01:12:15.390
Jillana Sinnott: 5000 copies, we tried to guess at what we could use we did a little thing about.

577
01:12:16.650 --> 01:12:27.090
Jillana Sinnott: How much toner we used and how much paper we use to figure out how many copies, we might use in a month because it's kind of a guesstimate because we never really paid for it.

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Jillana Sinnott: It seems like you know it'll be a set fee every month, instead of a guessing if toner goes up right now tuners like $88 I think a toner for the ones that are on our desk.

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Jillana Sinnott: So if everything's included if we have a problem with it, they come in and fix it they own the equipment, we lease it.

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Jillana Sinnott: So I think it's a good deal, it seems like it's good you know it should save us a little bit of money, but it's a guarantee, we know exactly what to put in our budget instead of a guesstimate.

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Karen Tarapata: I think it's great it also includes the facts.

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Karen Tarapata: Right.

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Jillana Sinnott: Now, right now, we have a fax that's like we bought for like $30 and I think the cartridge is like a ridiculous price and it's very it's small and it's really a rinky Dink.

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Jillana Sinnott: problems.

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01:13:26.460 --> 01:13:32.190
Karen Tarapata: So we need to keep the phone line for that fax if we switch to this.

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01:13:33.180 --> 01:13:41.130
Jillana Sinnott: We do need to keep that because remember that fax line is also our line to the panic buttons in the fire system.

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Karen Tarapata: So we wouldn't need.

588
01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:43.140
Jillana Sinnott: To own one.

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01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:47.100
Karen Tarapata: Thank you, I was trying to remember what I knew it had another purpose.

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Right.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, alright, so what i'm asked anyone have any questions they want to ask, and I see riches on here too in case you have any questions you want to ask him, but I think Joe did a tremendous amount of research into this and.

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Karen Tarapata: We just need to decide if this is the way we want to go or, if you think there's some other direction, does anyone have any thoughts about copying on leases can do you have any experience with that in your office.

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01:14:20.010 --> 01:14:27.390
Kennon Rothchild: Yes, I do, and we do something very similar In fact I think I think the prices, Hillary.

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Kennon Rothchild: I think the price is you know within line with what one might expect.

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Kennon Rothchild: In fact I think it's a lot less expensive than what i'm used to seeing in terms of our own business, and it is the way to go, we know, having a.

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Kennon Rothchild: Separate little fax machine you really want an integrated system, a monthly expense, with a service contract that's kind of really the most efficient and best way to go, I think.

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01:14:55.830 --> 01:15:10.710
Jeffrey Epstein: And I think it's good expense to keep the office up to date on equipment, because there's always more demands and things always getting better so it's a reasonable time to update and at a reasonable cost.

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Karen Tarapata: And we did do an analysis of how much paper we use last year to know about how many copies we make, and this is a very reasonable price for.

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01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:26.670
Karen Tarapata: For what we're getting I agree with that.

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Jillana Sinnott: They also want to add the color copier we have right now.

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Jillana Sinnott: When our old one went bad we bought a new one, but unfortunately that copier we got a great price, but you cannot make a copy on it actually want to call it a color printer.

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01:15:42.450 --> 01:15:52.020
Jillana Sinnott: We can only print color on it, so if you had something you want to make a copy if somebody brought a photo in or something like that that you want to make a copy, we can no longer do that.

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01:15:52.650 --> 01:15:56.520
Jillana Sinnott: So everything, even the printers on our desk everything will be wireless.

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01:15:57.330 --> 01:16:06.990
Jillana Sinnott: So you can print from your phone, use a resident comes in and wants to print something and send it somewhere to the main copier or whatever that could all be done also so the.

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Jillana Sinnott: And everything's build quarterly so if we go over 5000 in the first month, but only use 2000 the next month over the three months, it would average itself out so it's not like if we go over in one month will be charged extra.

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Karen Tarapata: that's great does anyone have any other questions.

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01:16:32.160 --> 01:16:39.450
Karen Tarapata: Okay, with somebody then make a motion to accept the least proposal for this.

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01:16:42.030 --> 01:16:45.270
Karen Tarapata: kinda Casey 300 I.

609
01:16:46.830 --> 01:16:53.130
Jeffrey Epstein: will make that motion that we set this proposal for a new car like a key Casey 300 I printer.

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01:16:54.930 --> 01:16:56.160
Kennon Rothchild: Yes, can I second.

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01:16:57.270 --> 01:17:03.000
Jillana Sinnott: I just want to mention it's not just that one kinda it's the main conoco and then for.

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01:17:03.780 --> 01:17:05.430
Jillana Sinnott: desktop conoco has also.

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01:17:05.940 --> 01:17:10.500
Karen Tarapata: write for desktop hi Sarah preachers I see that i'm sorry I misspoke.

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01:17:12.120 --> 01:17:12.510
Jeffrey Epstein: Because.

615
01:17:15.810 --> 01:17:20.010
Karen Tarapata: let's say for the five friends or at least proposal for the five vendors.

616
01:17:21.960 --> 01:17:24.300
Karen Tarapata: We have Jeff and we have can.

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01:17:25.440 --> 01:17:27.300
Karen Tarapata: Okay, all in favor say Aye.

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01:17:28.110 --> 01:17:28.890
Jeffrey Epstein: Jeff I.

619
01:17:32.400 --> 01:17:33.360
Laurie Dodge: lori I.

620
01:17:34.260 --> 01:17:34.560
Like.

621
01:17:36.480 --> 01:17:37.470
Karen Tarapata: Aaron I.

622
01:17:38.730 --> 01:17:39.510
Karen Tarapata: Great Thank you.

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Karen Tarapata: The next item on here is the 2022 election resolutions, which is page 37 in your packet if you're following along them.

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01:17:53.700 --> 01:18:02.070
Karen Tarapata: Okay, how do you want to explain what i'm sure we've been through this before, but would you explain what we are resolving tonight.

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Village Clerk: So these are just the resolutions for to hold the election in March of next year, the village election it's just the same three resolutions that were done each year prior So the first one is for.

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Village Clerk: No separate registration village registration day for voting and 2022.

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01:18:25.890 --> 01:18:28.260
Village Clerk: For election law 15 dash.

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Village Clerk: and the next one.

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Village Clerk: is for the village of up or nine X village election to be held at the old stone meeting House is that.

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Village Clerk: yeah okay also meeting House on Tuesday march 15 2022 from 12 noon to 9pm and the third is the 11.3 inspectors of election for the March 15 22 village 22 village election.

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Village Clerk: and pay them 15 per hour that's what we paid them last year I filed with the.

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01:19:05.250 --> 01:19:20.610
Village Clerk: county Board of elections to give me a list of the trained individuals and i'm still waiting on that, so we don't have names, yet, but we do have resolution that we can appoint three and name three those three next meeting.

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Karen Tarapata: Alright, so for the resolution, for no separate registration day in 2020 re election law.

634
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Karen Tarapata: With someone make emotion.

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01:19:36.120 --> 01:19:37.800
Karen Tarapata: We have to do these three separately.

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01:19:38.700 --> 01:19:43.380
Jeffrey Epstein: I moved, there will be except the so no separate registration day for 2022.

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OK, and then.

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01:19:46.320 --> 01:19:47.430
Michael Esmay: Michael second.

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01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:50.640
Karen Tarapata: Thank you Mike all in favor say Aye.

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01:19:51.750 --> 01:19:52.440
Jeffrey Epstein: chef I.

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01:19:53.400 --> 01:19:54.030
Michael Esmay: Like I.

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01:19:55.050 --> 01:19:55.410
Kennon Rothchild: Like.

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Laurie Dodge: lori I.

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Karen Tarapata: parent on alright, the second is a resolution for the village of upper knocked on election to be held at the old stone meeting house.

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On Tuesday march 15 2020.

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Karen Tarapata: From 12 noon to 9pm is for election law 15 104 320 2022 election law 15 when 18 three.

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Karen Tarapata: Someone mentioned motion.

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01:20:22.650 --> 01:20:31.650
Michael Esmay: All like that motion that will have the election at the mini house on march 13 2022.

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01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:33.570
Karen Tarapata: And I get a second.

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01:20:35.400 --> 01:20:35.580
Kennon Rothchild: Oh.

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01:20:37.560 --> 01:20:38.610
Kennon Rothchild: You could ever or, if you want.

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01:20:39.450 --> 01:20:39.960
Laurie Dodge: I don't care.

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01:20:41.370 --> 01:20:42.810
Karen Tarapata: Well, who is it who is it.

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01:20:43.500 --> 01:20:45.990
Laurie Dodge: can find he said first all right.

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Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye.

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01:20:48.060 --> 01:20:48.690
Michael Esmay: Like I.

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01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:50.190
Kennon Rothchild: Can I.

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01:20:51.810 --> 01:20:52.020
Jeffrey Epstein: Can.

659
01:20:53.490 --> 01:20:54.300
Laurie Dodge: lori I.

660
01:20:55.200 --> 01:20:55.950
Karen Tarapata: heron I.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, third one is I need a resolution to appoint three inspectors of election for the March 15 2022 village election election law.

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01:21:07.560 --> 01:21:09.510
Karen Tarapata: and pay them $15 an hour.

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01:21:14.190 --> 01:21:15.180
Karen Tarapata: Someone make a motion.

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Laurie Dodge: Well it's lori on the emotion, we appoint the three inspectors of election from the march 15 2022 election election law 15 116 one and pay them $15 an hour.

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Karen Tarapata: Can I get a second.

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Kennon Rothchild: kid I second.

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Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye.

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01:21:36.900 --> 01:21:37.830
Laurie Dodge: lori I.

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Kennon Rothchild: Can I.

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01:21:41.850 --> 01:21:42.060
Jeffrey Epstein: share.

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Karen Tarapata: My God look Karen I unanimous Thank you.

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Karen Tarapata: Yes.

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Michael Esmay: Just a simple question in the past we've always had three names is that because these people available or of the rules changed.

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01:22:03.900 --> 01:22:09.300
Karen Tarapata: Well we've I will ask i'm sure we'll ask the people who she's waiting for the list.

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01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:14.010
Karen Tarapata: yeah I know well i'm sure we'll have Carol courteau but.

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Karen Tarapata: This is the first time heather has done this.

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Village Clerk: it's more information to make sure the list is is up to date, because a lot of the list we're just kind of recycled throughout the years and I just want to make sure everything's legit.

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Karen Tarapata: Alright, the next is a discussion of the procurement policy, I was reading our procurement policy because I need to submit it with our request to fema for reimbursement for damages from Hurricane Ida and I noticed that in Item number.

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Karen Tarapata: Six on the second page.

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Karen Tarapata: It says, except when directed by the village board no solicitation of written proposals or quotations shall be required under the following circumstances.

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01:23:03.330 --> 01:23:10.080
Karen Tarapata: And it lists things like acquisition of pit professional services emergencies salsa situations.

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01:23:10.590 --> 01:23:25.920
Karen Tarapata: Goods purchase from agencies for the blind or handicap its purchase from correctional facilities goods purchased from other governmental agency goods purchased at auction goods purchase and I want to add goods purchased through county shared services.

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Karen Tarapata: With asking for a motion that I see that we add goods purchased through county shared services as something that allows us to not have to go out to bid we've we've signed a shared services agreement with rockland county but we just haven't formalized it in our procurement policy.

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Michael Esmay: it's a policy okay yeah.

685
01:23:56.940 --> 01:24:01.290
Karen Tarapata: But it is something that we have to have you know in place if somebody asks.

686
01:24:01.440 --> 01:24:03.360
Michael Esmay: You always know the law that's what I was kidding.

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Karen Tarapata: it's not a law but it but somebody could object if you know but that's the whole purpose of having the shared services is that they negotiated a contract that we can piggyback on that doesn't mean that we won't go out for bed right.

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01:24:22.020 --> 01:24:35.250
Karen Tarapata: The biggest problem i'm having is that there are fewer and fewer companies that want to do prevailing wage work with municipalities just a really hard time finding anybody who will do our work.

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01:24:36.390 --> 01:24:40.530
Karen Tarapata: And i've been you know we've been lobbying our state.

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01:24:41.910 --> 01:24:56.580
Karen Tarapata: assemblyman and Senator and ny calm is also lobbying in to have the floor below which you don't need to create a floor below which you do not have to.

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01:24:57.570 --> 01:25:10.140
Karen Tarapata: Use prevailing wage on municipal projects currently every job that we built out if it's any kind of a corporation, we have to have them provide certified payroll of it, they have.

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01:25:11.220 --> 01:25:11.700
Karen Tarapata: paid.

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01:25:11.940 --> 01:25:12.900
prevailing wage.

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Karen Tarapata: it's a problem, so I just, the more we can piggyback on county shared services, the more we can find purveyors who are willing to do our jobs.

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Michael Esmay: Look.

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Michael Esmay: Does this require motion.

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Karen Tarapata: It does.

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Michael Esmay: i'll make that motion.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, phil can I get a second.

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Laurie Dodge: i'll second it's lori.

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Karen Tarapata: Thank you laurie all in favor say Aye or.

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Karen Tarapata: Stop it is there any other discussion with any up sorry, can I jumped ahead, again, is there any discussion before we go.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay, all in favor say Aye.

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Laurie Dodge: micah lori hi.

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Michael Esmay: Karen.

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hi.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay, thank you.

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Karen Tarapata: just want to be sure that what we do is correct.

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Karen Tarapata: All right here, the next is this grant application for the River hook project last week we talked about a possible grant that.

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Karen Tarapata: might be a bite apply for an area at river hook, so I wanted first I wanted to just go over what the.

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Karen Tarapata: architect will be.

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Karen Tarapata: was asking to put in for this grant what has been proposed and just to discuss a little bit.

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Karen Tarapata: it's a little out of order, as we talked about last week, because we really want to talk about river hook as a whole in January, but this is a proposal for a particular part of river hook, that would be appropriate for this grant Laura do you want to explain this a little bit more.

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Laurie Dodge: um yeah so as I sort of said in the email that I sent to all of you this as Jonathan kind of position to to us, he was doing some other work and found this grant which seems like a good opportunity for this particular space at river hope which.

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Laurie Dodge: As we mentioned is the lower meadow specifically the spring house and the children's play area.

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Laurie Dodge: And so, as Karen mentioned, we really do you want to have a bigger conversation about river hook in January, February and and just continuing because.

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Laurie Dodge: The entire boards been less involved in the conversation about river hook then Karen and I have been obviously because up until recently we sat on both boards.

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Laurie Dodge: So it seems like this is just a serendipitous opportunity, even though we you know, we have the design vision that was that was.

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Laurie Dodge: funded by Ray right from friends over which is terrific but we really don't have the next layer of what are we going to do with that vision to make it a reality, although.

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Laurie Dodge: karen's been working with Carol to do landscape plan we've done some work in the meadows obviously there have been various initiatives that have happened at river hook that show forward momentum which is this is sort of in our minds and easy win for forward momentum that's very.

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Laurie Dodge: doing work on the lower meadow mowing pads with access to the spring House is very it's a finite piece of work it's not what do we do with Harry was or.

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Laurie Dodge: You know what are we doing even with the caretakers house or building an amphitheater it's just it's a very compact finite project that.

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Laurie Dodge: Based on the grant money could and the the parameters of when they would like the work done, although there's some flexibility would be done by the end of the year so it's sort of as as we were thinking about the mowing of the pads which would happen in late spring.

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Laurie Dodge: This this work it's Community oriented because the build would be a Community build.

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Laurie Dodge: It just seems like everything is sort of aligning that this is something that we could get done again to show there will be Community involvement, but then even people who weren't involved in the build when you would walk through.

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Laurie Dodge: There would be something that's very visibly and tangibly forward focused, you know what there would be momentum.

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Laurie Dodge: And also, I put in the email because I Karen I couldn't remember what you said about potentially the conversation you had had was it with fema for the stream.

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Laurie Dodge: that's something else Okay, so what what will we do know is that we're getting pricing to mow the meadows and then there's this $20,000 opportunity for the spring house and so Jonathan malloy.

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Laurie Dodge: Who, along with two other people owns public record, which is the firm that did the design vision brought this to us and feels that they could I mean they would they would prepare the grant application with us.

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Laurie Dodge: And I feel like if they didn't think they could do the work for 20 grand then they wouldn't have brought it to us, so I think it to me it seems like a really great opportunity.

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Karen Tarapata: Well i'll just i'll just jump in a little bit, I think that the improvements for making on river hook currently are all in the landscape, because the buildings are such a bigger conversation.

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Karen Tarapata: than we talked about from the very beginning, when we all sat in a circle at the Multi purpose room and Upper neck elementary school was to create some sort of natural play area for kids.

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Karen Tarapata: This seems like an opportunity to go after some money that would help us actually create that and in the packets I included some a page from a playground design that Mike.

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Karen Tarapata: showed me showing some of the things that could be involved in a children's play area.

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Karen Tarapata: And they may or may not apply to this area but it's just showing that we could do something turning that spring House into a little playhouse and creating a nice natural area with materials that would be fun for kids and outdoor activities it's appropriate still appropriate for coven.

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Karen Tarapata: And in addition I spoke, the other day with someone that Hillary Blumenthal.

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Karen Tarapata: told me to talk to, and that was what's his name.

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Karen Tarapata: what's his.

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Kennon Rothchild: TIM domain good.

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Karen Tarapata: TIM angler right I couldn't members first name, England, like our time and learn but TIM Miller and he's done he just he creates these beautiful benches.

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Karen Tarapata: sort of alive edge bench from blogs, and I included that in there, because we have beautiful black locusts logs.

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Karen Tarapata: That could make wonderful seating in the children's play area and the logs are already on site they've just been cut down so they're actually in a great position to be used over the next year before the would really dries out or needs to be H in a different way.

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Karen Tarapata: So I don't see a downside, because if we get it we don't we can decide whether or not we want to take it if we but I don't see any reason why we wouldn't at least go after this.

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Karen Tarapata: What do you guys, what do you think.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Well, I think you just answered one of my questions was your final sentence, which is that they will let us know in advance of US putting any money into this other than potentially formulating the plan through the surface did that work with us already.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Right okay.

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Karen Tarapata: So that's it's just creating a potential for doing this project.

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Laurie Dodge: yeah I mean it's submitting a grant you know, we have, we obviously have some very good documentation to show that we've been at this, so there are elements as Karen included in the package, some some pages from the design vision.

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Laurie Dodge: And then, whatever I mean we would show you guys the grant application before we sent it out, so you could see what specifically we're sending.

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Laurie Dodge: I don't imagine it would vary that much from what we've shown, but I mean public records always coming up with new.

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Karen Tarapata: Right so but I just think it's a good it's it makes sense to.

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Karen Tarapata: Try.

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Jeffrey Epstein: yeah yeah I think so also and actually I the way that the organization, you know practice grant.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Such things out, I get the feeling we get the money, because we can certainly show continuity.

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Jeffrey Epstein: And that's apparently very key factor for that, like no Although all the stuff we've done already, with you know moline and set it up art exhibits and stuff like that, but I think play right into what they're looking for.

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Karen Tarapata: And I think it could create a benefit for the local children yeah.

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Karen Tarapata: I saw how much.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Something we want us to know so good.

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Karen Tarapata: I said I saw how much the girl scouts love the logs and things on the property, so I think we would get young people who would enjoy this area.

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Laurie Dodge: And also just shows intention and continued forward momentum, because the sculpture, you know, while there's work being done on the landscape.

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Laurie Dodge: And people appreciate that for sure I think people also really appreciate it there that the the sculpture was placed very intentionally and it was very obvious that there was movement on the site to bring art to the site which one is is one of the pillars of the.

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Laurie Dodge: As as the environment, but.

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Laurie Dodge: One of the pillars of what river oak is all about.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Well, I think we this dovetails with what we are expected to be part of what we wanted on the site, you know something for kids in that lower area anyway.

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Jeffrey Epstein: We we talked about that being a possibility, I just think it may throw that in front of other things that we may have done, maybe.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Before that, but why look a gift horse in masters in the match this agenda, we could get funding for something like that i'm certainly open to what putting that in front of the line.

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Jeffrey Epstein: And maybe even more appropriate to do it now also because it's you know we see covert a stolen and aspect of a deal with some outdoor stuff may still be the better way to go.

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Karen Tarapata: And it may also interest some other of local donors, you know, once you show that the kind of things you can do people get more excited about participating privately.

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Karen Tarapata: With you know funding things privately.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, I would ask for a resolution of the board to allow public record to pursue this grant the practice grant application.

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Laurie Dodge: i'll make the motion, I mean I just does everyone feel comfortable and.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Second image I figured you would want to make a motion.

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Laurie Dodge: I definitely do.

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Laurie Dodge: But i'm.

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Kennon Rothchild: A free.

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Kennon Rothchild: A free to have a dog in that fight lori.

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Laurie Dodge: I do want the dog in the fight, and I think you know just from an iterative stamp it's This is absolutely an iterative process and I don't see anything in this work that's contrary to anything that we potentially might want to do in the future.

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Kennon Rothchild: Well, and I would say you've also given up your conflict of interest by no longer being on the board of so it would be different right it's a different thing yeah.

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Laurie Dodge: yeah well and also their public record we be doing this with with the village it's not with the friends of river right.

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Karen Tarapata: So all right, so we have a first, we have a second all in favor say Aye.

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Laurie Dodge: Aye laurie.

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01:37:50.850 --> 01:37:51.600
Jeffrey Epstein: chef I.

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Kennon Rothchild: Can I.

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Michael Esmay: Like.

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Karen Tarapata: Karen I thank you alright The next thing here is, we have a code enforcement law that we saw last week in red line.

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Karen Tarapata: form and it's in here now again if without with it it's almost its final form Noel and I came up with one more small change today but i'd like to set the public hearing for the law that will allow.

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Karen Tarapata: Our How would you describe it Noel what is it the law, supporting governing is a verb I can't come up with.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: Sure it's a lot authorizing the code enforcement officer, the building inspector anybody who's authorized to enforce a lot to issue an appearance ticket.

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Noelle C. Wolfson: To have a somebody who's starting with a violation appearing local criminal justice court.

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Karen Tarapata: And this is important because we want to be able to write parking tickets on people who leave their cars out during snow emergencies and overnight.

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Karen Tarapata: And then it's going to just make it makes a lot of things possible where we can issue the tickets and we don't have to go through the parks town court clerk to issue and appearance ticket.

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Michael Esmay: Which which meeting where you going to consider this.

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Karen Tarapata: January.

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Michael Esmay: 20 20th busy meeting yes.

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Laurie Dodge: bring your peanuts.

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Michael Esmay: popcorn yeah.

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Karen Tarapata: that's right.

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Laurie Dodge: All right, hey that's in person, we really can.

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Michael Esmay: carry the not, I will make a motion to have a public hearing.

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Michael Esmay: For the appearance ticket.

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Karen Tarapata: The code enforcement law, thank you, my.

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Michael Esmay: God, of course.

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Jeffrey Epstein: I will second that just.

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Karen Tarapata: say I.

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Michael Esmay: Like I.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Just Jeff hi.

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Laurie Dodge: lori hi.

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Karen Tarapata: Karen I thank you.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, here we go we're getting close close to the end, which is good, a proposed changes to the employee handbook we saw that we had a couple of outstanding issues left over from our meeting last week that I wanted to talk about one of them was we had talked about perhaps.

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Karen Tarapata: Allowing have making some reference to have.

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Karen Tarapata: Employees accepting gifts, up to a certain amount Noel and I did a little research and discovered that no we employees are not allowed to accept gifts at all.

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Karen Tarapata: Rather, so in that is in actually in our code of ethics that everyone signs when they are higher or appointed, so I thought let's just remove the reference to guess entirely from page from section six of our.

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Karen Tarapata: book and just left the code of ethics, be the guiding document because that comes from the State.

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Jeffrey Epstein: So I thought I thought you both came from stay, so we could move move that, from my book and have fun okay sorry.

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Karen Tarapata: yeah now the book is the book is ours, but the amount of the agenda items are codes, like the sexual violence and harassment and code of ethics those all come down from the State.

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Karen Tarapata: You can include them.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, so we already talked about the election day holiday that's off the table, and the last thing here now is this retiree health insurance and riches here tonight.

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Karen Tarapata: you'd asked us to run a couple of scenarios of what it would cost to offer a retiree nice ship retiree insurance to our employees.

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Karen Tarapata: If once they can retire at age 55 after at least five years of service to the village rich i'm just going to have you speak a little bit about what we talked about with this.

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Karen Tarapata: You know the state requires us if we offer insurance to retirees, we have to at least over 50% of an individual premium and 30% of family premium.

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Karen Tarapata: And i'm just going to let rich talk a little bit about what we had discussed as a possibility and what the cost would be I actually asked Mitch to project out 10 years what.

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Karen Tarapata: It would cost us to offer this benefit 10 years from now, because it's going to be closer to 10 years from now, when we have someone will retire at 55.

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Richard Fortunato: Okay.

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Richard Fortunato: The current costs right now.

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Richard Fortunato: The current costs for single is $393 we pay 50% of that $393 and the family plan now which we pay zero you cannot opt into is roughly $1,100 for the family plan that's the current cost for employer.

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Karen Tarapata: hiring plan yep.

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Richard Fortunato: For the entire plan.

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Richard Fortunato: The State recommends like Karen said or requires 5030 50% single 30% family I think what Karen suggested in order to.

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Richard Fortunato: I guess maintain the staff would be a good thing to us would be 5050.

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Richard Fortunato: So a little just a tad more for the family plan so we go with a 5050 plants, so I ran those projections forward so the current cost would roughly be $200 for single.

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Richard Fortunato: And $550 would be our cost currently if we run those costs 10 years forward at a 5% increase which I think is kind of reasonable.

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Richard Fortunato: The cost winds up 10 years from now, our costs, not the total cost that a 5050 split winds up being 600 single.

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Richard Fortunato: i'm sorry now 300 single half half with our costs 300 for single and a little over $800 I have $830 for family.

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Karen Tarapata: So that's our cost, and that would be their cost, the reason I even even talk about this is because.

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Karen Tarapata: We read a benefits are a big part of how we retain our employees there isn't a good people come they they take less money to take a public job.

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Karen Tarapata: Particularly in our little village there really isn't a lot of room for advancement and they really do look forward to these benefits.

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Karen Tarapata: it's a as we talked about last week it's it's a legacy cost for the village, but the question is, if you really don't offer retiree benefits there's a good chance that your people will be poached so the pallet ease so it's it's just something to to think about.

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Richard Fortunato: So let me, let me just give you, because I know numbers are just you know kind of.

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Richard Fortunato: Early sometimes I mean this is really in my judgment, pretty simple if the village has to offer by the state of 5030 plan right the village in must if the village offers a 5050 plan the extra 20% 10 years from now.

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Richard Fortunato: Right equates to.

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Richard Fortunato: it's not so much is my point here.

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Richard Fortunato: equates to $33 a month per employee who chooses the family plan which i'm you know most employees are going to choose the family plan right they'll have spouses, so you know 10 years from now.

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Richard Fortunato: Right $33 extra per retiree per month, so it's not a humongous.

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Richard Fortunato: You know what we're going to offer from what we must offer it's not a tremendous difference.

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Karen Tarapata: So I don't think this is a.

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Karen Tarapata: difference, but it makes a difference to the.

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Richard Fortunato: To the employee.

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Richard Fortunato: yeah I understand, but to the for the dollars and cents for the math here, I just want everybody to know this is not something that we're going to struggle over for $33.

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Jeffrey Epstein: I think, just a small little bit also.

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Karen Tarapata: And the thing is it's important to know that if somebody retires at 55 they can continue to purchase this insurance with us throughout their retirement it isn't something that stops when they turn 65 and get medicare.

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Richard Fortunato: and get the 50% reduction.

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Richard Fortunato: Right it's.

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Richard Fortunato: A 5050 deal, even at 65.

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Karen Tarapata: Even at 65 if they choose, it now, the very high end plan, many people might choose to call a rp and get a much more reasonable plan when they turn 65 this could just be a gap.

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Karen Tarapata: Insurance program that helps it helps them between 55 and 65 or they made this if they have a particular medical condition or particularly specialist they go to they could continue if they wish to purchase this at the from us going farming.

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Jeffrey Epstein: And the continuation have to if somebody if 65 years or after after retirement, which is also part of New York state it just continues on.

857
01:47:59.910 --> 01:48:01.620
Richard Fortunato: If the employee chooses yes.

858
01:48:02.220 --> 01:48:02.610
Okay.

859
01:48:03.720 --> 01:48:06.420
Karen Tarapata: But they may say my God, I can do better.

860
01:48:06.810 --> 01:48:07.500
than.

861
01:48:09.420 --> 01:48:17.850
Karen Tarapata: $830 a month for my family, I can find less expensive insurance I don't know it would be their choice, but it's something.

862
01:48:18.900 --> 01:48:30.840
Karen Tarapata: And, fortunately, we have a while before this will become an issue, but it is something that is in employees minds, so I just wanted to get you know.

863
01:48:31.890 --> 01:48:32.820
Karen Tarapata: open the discussion.

864
01:48:39.000 --> 01:48:44.490
Karen Tarapata: Any other any other you know Mike and can lori do you have any thoughts on this.

865
01:48:48.840 --> 01:48:59.520
Kennon Rothchild: So the question is that where we acquired by the state to offer retirement benefits period Eric gap insurance or health insurance retirement.

866
01:49:01.260 --> 01:49:02.640
Karen Tarapata: We can offer zero.

867
01:49:02.970 --> 01:49:04.050
Kennon Rothchild: We got offered Sir okay.

868
01:49:04.110 --> 01:49:08.700
Karen Tarapata: We can offer zero, but if we offer anything, it has to be 5030 is the random.

869
01:49:09.840 --> 01:49:11.220
Jeffrey Epstein: And it has to continue on.

870
01:49:12.420 --> 01:49:13.650
Jeffrey Epstein: After after.

871
01:49:14.760 --> 01:49:17.610
Jeffrey Epstein: an incident OK OK.

872
01:49:20.040 --> 01:49:20.610
Karen Tarapata: So.

873
01:49:20.730 --> 01:49:22.530
Jeffrey Epstein: I already expressed, I think it's a.

874
01:49:23.070 --> 01:49:25.080
Jeffrey Epstein: direction to go, because my opinion.

875
01:49:25.290 --> 01:49:26.880
Michael Esmay: yeah I agree.

876
01:49:29.130 --> 01:49:35.580
Karen Tarapata: I think, because it's not as easy as I thought to find qualified people for these positions.

877
01:49:37.560 --> 01:49:47.550
Jeffrey Epstein: And to your point, I mean they work for a certain amount and they look at the back end of this and that's the that's the deal we make so okay with it yep.

878
01:49:49.080 --> 01:49:50.970
Karen Tarapata: All right, then so.

879
01:49:52.260 --> 01:49:52.770
Karen Tarapata: My.

880
01:49:55.230 --> 01:50:12.540
Karen Tarapata: Show I circulate on can make these changes, and I can circulate the employee guidelines with the final changes in it, would you like to do that, or do you feel ready to adapt to the changes we talked about last week, and this week into the employee guide book.

881
01:50:14.880 --> 01:50:16.410
Karen Tarapata: You can go one more round.

882
01:50:21.570 --> 01:50:27.210
Jeffrey Epstein: included, but needs to be concluded so i'd be I will be okay, you know just going forward what we thought.

883
01:50:28.260 --> 01:50:29.100
Michael Esmay: let's go with it.

884
01:50:29.580 --> 01:50:31.530
Kennon Rothchild: yeah I was gonna say the same so.

885
01:50:31.800 --> 01:50:40.470
Karen Tarapata: Okay, so let someone make a motion that we adopt the amendments to the employee handbook for 2022.

886
01:50:40.830 --> 01:50:41.610
Kennon Rothchild: This is can.

887
01:50:42.780 --> 01:50:48.180
Kennon Rothchild: I move that we make the proposed changes to the employee handbook as.

888
01:50:49.260 --> 01:50:50.910
Kennon Rothchild: As describing these past two meetings.

889
01:50:52.830 --> 01:50:53.700
Karen Tarapata: And second.

890
01:50:54.240 --> 01:50:56.370
Michael Esmay: i'll second that Mike thanks my.

891
01:50:56.700 --> 01:50:57.750
Karen Tarapata: favorite say I.

892
01:50:58.230 --> 01:50:59.190
Kennon Rothchild: can buy.

893
01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:00.540
Michael Esmay: My God.

894
01:51:02.880 --> 01:51:03.300
Laurie Dodge: All right.

895
01:51:04.350 --> 01:51:05.280
Karen Tarapata: Karen I.

896
01:51:06.150 --> 01:51:18.000
Karen Tarapata: Well, thank you so much good one more thing one more thing here, this is this crazy thing the resolution the standard work day and reporting resolution.

897
01:51:18.360 --> 01:51:27.450
Karen Tarapata: We usually do this at our annual meeting like knows this, one where we make a resolution saying that our standard work day is seven hours.

898
01:51:28.500 --> 01:51:50.130
Karen Tarapata: And this has to do with the way that they calculate the retirement benefits for employees heather was appointed in June, and this was never done, I took a webinar and realize that I really have to submit this resolution by the end by the end of the month, but actually by December 27.

899
01:51:51.180 --> 01:51:55.650
Karen Tarapata: So i'm just asking for a resolution.

900
01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:10.890
Karen Tarapata: Say stating that the standard work day for our appointed officials Donna Albert and heather candela the deputy village clerk and the village clerk is seven hours.

901
01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:13.860
Karen Tarapata: And that's all I need.

902
01:52:16.380 --> 01:52:23.310
Karen Tarapata: With someone make a motion to set the standard work day for the debt those correct and deputy village at seven hours.

903
01:52:23.730 --> 01:52:33.990
Jeffrey Epstein: I will make that motion for those ferpa deputy is a village clerk and deputy Polish clerk that's a seven hour workday standard seven hour workday.

904
01:52:34.770 --> 01:52:36.000
Karen Tarapata: Great can I get a second.

905
01:52:39.000 --> 01:52:39.690
Laurie Dodge: i'll second.

906
01:52:40.290 --> 01:52:42.360
Karen Tarapata: Thank you laurie all in favor say Aye.

907
01:52:42.870 --> 01:52:45.090
Laurie Dodge: Jeff I lori I.

908
01:52:47.310 --> 01:52:47.580
Michael Esmay: Like.

909
01:52:48.720 --> 01:52:49.620
Karen Tarapata: Aaron I.

910
01:52:51.540 --> 01:52:57.870
Karen Tarapata: got all 15 things is there anything else that you'd like to speak about tonight.

911
01:52:58.530 --> 01:53:04.710
Laurie Dodge: Well, you know what we do need to do i'm sorry I hate to even say it, I need to do the Minutes.

912
01:53:05.730 --> 01:53:09.360
Karen Tarapata: Of course we do we never got that and I have one more one more request.

913
01:53:10.530 --> 01:53:17.670
Karen Tarapata: One quick request I need a resolution authorizing me to have a small fire and uh huh bochy.

914
01:53:17.970 --> 01:53:19.290
Karen Tarapata: On Saturday I never.

915
01:53:20.580 --> 01:53:35.880
Karen Tarapata: do some work with our high school students of fire on river requires a resolution of the village board so does anyone object to me having a little hip it there, so we can make s'mores no.

916
01:53:35.940 --> 01:53:39.570
Laurie Dodge: object come one come all for this course.

917
01:53:40.410 --> 01:53:42.990
Karen Tarapata: yeah I gotta go shopping tomorrow.

918
01:53:44.730 --> 01:53:52.320
Karen Tarapata: Okay, with someone make a motion to allow a small well regulated fire on river hooked on Saturday.

919
01:53:53.580 --> 01:53:55.200
Karen Tarapata: The December 18.

920
01:53:55.890 --> 01:53:56.880
Laurie Dodge: i'll make it a motion.

921
01:53:58.200 --> 01:53:59.190
Karen Tarapata: Can I get a second.

922
01:54:00.540 --> 01:54:01.350
Kennon Rothchild: And i'll second.

923
01:54:01.980 --> 01:54:03.960
Karen Tarapata: Thank you can all in favor say Aye.

924
01:54:04.920 --> 01:54:05.790
Laurie Dodge: lori I.

925
01:54:06.330 --> 01:54:07.050
Kennon Rothchild: Can I.

926
01:54:07.740 --> 01:54:08.310
Jeffrey Epstein: Think Jeff.

927
01:54:09.690 --> 01:54:09.930
Michael Esmay: Like.

928
01:54:11.250 --> 01:54:19.680
Karen Tarapata: Karen I thank you all right back two minutes, all the way back to page three and page seven of our packets here.

929
01:54:24.540 --> 01:54:27.180
Karen Tarapata: takes a moment for this evening to go back here so big.

930
01:54:28.410 --> 01:54:39.150
Karen Tarapata: All right, have you reviewed the meeting of the minutes of the regular meeting of November 18th 2021 and does anyone have any corrections or changes.

931
01:54:41.070 --> 01:54:43.020
Laurie Dodge: late November oh yeah right sorry.

932
01:54:47.130 --> 01:54:56.400
Karen Tarapata: If there are no corrections or changes, I would ask someone to make emotion that we adopt the minutes of the regular meeting of November at.

933
01:54:58.170 --> 01:55:02.760
Jeffrey Epstein: Oh, there we adopt the ministry show for November 18 2020 work.

934
01:55:03.660 --> 01:55:04.530
Karen Tarapata: And I get a second.

935
01:55:05.880 --> 01:55:06.240
Laurie Dodge: i'll say.

936
01:55:07.170 --> 01:55:07.500
Like.

937
01:55:08.820 --> 01:55:10.980
Karen Tarapata: What Maria was in first you'll have to wait.

938
01:55:12.900 --> 01:55:14.310
Laurie Dodge: till the special meeting like.

939
01:55:15.420 --> 01:55:16.830
Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye.

940
01:55:18.630 --> 01:55:19.470
Laurie Dodge: Gloria.

941
01:55:19.860 --> 01:55:20.580
Michael Esmay: My God.

942
01:55:24.570 --> 01:55:25.230
Karen Tarapata: Can I.

943
01:55:25.920 --> 01:55:29.730
Kennon Rothchild: Can I sorry about that had to quickly come back and unmute yourselves.

944
01:55:32.610 --> 01:55:36.540
Karen Tarapata: I have your review the minutes of the special meeting of December night.

945
01:55:37.260 --> 01:55:38.340
Karen Tarapata: and any comments or.

946
01:55:38.340 --> 01:55:38.970
corrections.

947
01:55:40.440 --> 01:55:40.890
know.

948
01:55:41.970 --> 01:55:46.950
Karen Tarapata: I let this new format of the Minutes it's very simple.

949
01:55:48.810 --> 01:55:51.000
Michael Esmay: All right, if there aren't any girl likewise.

950
01:55:52.410 --> 01:55:56.700
Karen Tarapata: So Mike would you make a motion to adopt the minutes of the special meeting.

951
01:55:57.270 --> 01:55:57.900
Yes.

952
01:55:58.920 --> 01:55:59.700
They get a second.

953
01:56:00.930 --> 01:56:02.250
Jeffrey Epstein: it's just like it.

954
01:56:02.850 --> 01:56:04.590
Karen Tarapata: All right, all in favor say Aye.

955
01:56:05.010 --> 01:56:05.730
Michael Esmay: My guy.

956
01:56:06.180 --> 01:56:06.870
Jeffrey Epstein: Jeff I.

957
01:56:09.450 --> 01:56:12.600
Laurie Dodge: lori I can, are you on mute yeah.

958
01:56:13.980 --> 01:56:14.520
Kennon Rothchild: Can I.

959
01:56:15.660 --> 01:56:23.790
Karen Tarapata: Karen I alright So is there anything else you want to talk about or do you want to just make a motion to end the meeting.

960
01:56:26.400 --> 01:56:27.990
Kennon Rothchild: i'd like to make a motion day of the meeting.

961
01:56:28.920 --> 01:56:31.410
Michael Esmay: All right, i'll second that like.

962
01:56:31.980 --> 01:56:33.240
Karen Tarapata: All in favor say I.

963
01:56:34.260 --> 01:56:34.920
Kennon Rothchild: Can I.

964
01:56:35.490 --> 01:56:36.120
Michael Esmay: Like I.

965
01:56:37.140 --> 01:56:37.920
Laurie Dodge: Already I.

966
01:56:38.250 --> 01:56:39.150
Jeffrey Epstein: Jeff I.

967
01:56:39.600 --> 01:56:47.370
Karen Tarapata: Aaron I thank you all so much thank you Noel and rich staying on to the end we'll see you soon good night.