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Karen Tarapata: webinar issue.

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Karen Tarapata: And then Okay, good evening everyone hoping my can get on.

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Karen Tarapata: But i'm just going to start the meeting, because it is seven o'clock.

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Karen Tarapata: This is the village of upper neck Board of Trustees regular meeting of November 18 2021 we do have a mom laurie dodge can Ross child Jeff Epstein and myself Karen terracotta we're waiting for Deputy Mayor Mike is.

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Karen Tarapata: See.

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Karen Tarapata: Well then, why don't we start with what we could do the minutes while we're waiting for my so I know he will probably call me if he can't get on.

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Karen Tarapata: Did everyone reads the Minutes, the amended minutes with it had your hopefully head your comments incorporated.

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Laurie Dodge: Yes.

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Jeffrey Epstein: look good to me.

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Karen Tarapata: yeah hey.

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Karen Tarapata: With someone make emotion, then, to adopt the minutes of the regular meeting by October 21 2021.

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Jeffrey Epstein: will move that we adopt the minutes of October 21 2021 sprint.

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Karen Tarapata: And lori.

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Laurie Dodge: Yes, i'll second.

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Karen Tarapata: Sorry, is it funny for me I can't yeah i'm not seeing it okay all in favor say Aye.

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Jeffrey Epstein: hi Jeff.

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Laurie Dodge: I lori.

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Karen Tarapata: hi Karen.

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Ken Rothchild: And I must abstain, since I wasn't at that meeting.

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Karen Tarapata: Right okay.

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Karen Tarapata: All right.

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Karen Tarapata: adopted.

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Ken Rothchild: I see Mike has joined us or is about to join us so yeah you might want to ask him the question or not, you need only three.

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He helped him with the.

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Karen Tarapata: Adjustments so let's just see me get him on here.

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Karen Tarapata: Mike are you with us Where are you.

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See here now.

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Karen Tarapata: Michael s Bay is not he is he muted what's going on, or is not no he's he's muted himself Mike we can't hear you.

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Karen Tarapata: heather is there anything up maybe he's calling me hold on a second.

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Karen Tarapata: Hello Mike.

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Karen Tarapata: See, so you are.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, so why don't you go back to gosh because you're on I just did right, but I see you have no microphone.

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Karen Tarapata: I you are actually on as a participant, I can see you here.

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Karen Tarapata: But you were unable to do a run able to log on using the tablet.

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Karen Tarapata: Why don't you go to.

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Karen Tarapata: I understand why don't you log off and go to the upper neck website and just to come on as a participant.

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Karen Tarapata: And then we will see if we can't make you one of the panelists just Come on, you know what I mean just come in as a civilian.

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Village Clerk: Karen I can make them a panelist if he goes that.

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Karen Tarapata: There we go, we just need you to log in through our website.

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Hopefully, simple thing.

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Karen Tarapata: Well, our lives will be much simpler when we have the old style meeting house setup and and we as trustees will be back in the room, will be able to make this a lot simpler.

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Karen Tarapata: The police report, or you do this.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, you'll be on in a few.

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Karen Tarapata: Oh no we sorry we'll just wait.

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Karen Tarapata: don't worry okay all right, so I will go ahead with the.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, very good Mike all right bye.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, Michael is going to come in as a participant on his tablet and that should be just fine.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay, so go ahead with the police report that tells are you here.

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Karen Tarapata: Is here before.

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Karen Tarapata: Can.

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Jeffrey Epstein: You know.

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Village Clerk: I was if you're on the one of the phone numbers it's star six to unmute yourself.

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18456395980: Oh, here we go.

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18456395980: Can you guys hear me yep.

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18456395980: Fantastic I didn't realize it was the star star six Thank you.

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Karen Tarapata: Think, you might have heard, we got bombed twice in the last week, so now we're having to do this, a different way to increase the security.

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18456395980: I did not hear that and I think i'll talk to you, maybe tomorrow and maybe we can talk about some ways to.

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18456395980: prevent that.

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18456395980: But anyway, since the last meeting there was one car accident in the village, and it was no injuries on Castle height.

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18456395980: As always, our officers are continuing to do area check of all the hotspots in nyack school checks, as well as cultural and religious checks.

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18456395980: There were two animal incidents a one was an engineer on North broadway that ended up being unfounded it ran off into the woods and the other one was on North midlanders o'clock that also ran off into the woods.

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18456395980: One part of concern, there was one burglary in the village that was on for strive, and they got in through a rear door, which was left unlock somewhere between the hours of 9am and 6pm and ransack several of bedrooms and rooms in the residents are stuck.

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18456395980: i'm sorry.

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Karen Tarapata: I just said, oh, my goodness that's then it doesn't happen very often.

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18456395980: No, no, there hasn't been a burglary down there in a while and again, you know this remind people to lock their doors.

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18456395980: No firewall know fires no fireworks there was one fraud that occurred in the village and somebody made changes to a cell phone account, and then they were able to go into a chase account and put money into a.

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18456395980: it's called coinbase and they were able to transfer some money the.

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18456395980: resident was able to catch it pretty quickly contact chase security and they were able to stop it and reverse the residence.

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18456395980: There were no juvenile complaints, there was one larceny that occurred from a mailbox and it was on oak hill drive and the person went in and stole some checks that were in the mailbox know larcenies occurred from vehicles.

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18456395980: There was no noise ordinance calls, but there was one from the boatyard it was one call about the boatyard no property nobody.

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18456395980: No calls about recycling bins.

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18456395980: And I was asked to look at stolen cars, because there was some concerns from residents that that there was a number of stolen cars that were occurring.

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18456395980: So I went back six years and in those six years, there were only three reported stolen cars.

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18456395980: One of them, the person called back pretty quickly about two or three minutes after they made the initial call and said that they actually saw their car was parked in a different spot so that was not a stolen car, there were two this year, one in January and one in October.

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18456395980: One was on North middle and avenue, the other one was on hyperdrive they both were Mercedes or both, were the both cars were unwired.

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18456395980: And both cars, had the key fobs in them anybody have any questions about the stolen cars or anything like that so it's not it again six years, two cars not Oh, not for us a big crime wave.

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18456395980: But in terms of suspicious calls, there were two suspicious calls on a high mount avenue.

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18456395980: One that somebody called about in a garage door that was left open and an end up being a abandoned house, we went and checked.

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18456395980: The door was only partially open and there was nothing that was disturbed in the House, the other one was a person that was sitting on a rock we went out ID the person.

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18456395980: and ended up being a verizon worker that was you know working in the area and they decided to take a break and sit on the rock and the third suspicious was on North broadway.

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18456395980: an unknown person went and knock on somebody's door by the time we got down there that person was going there were no robberies and no trespasses The last thing I want to talk about was a drug.

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18456395980: overdoses and we've we've seen a pretty substantial increase so for the county year to date there's been 324 reported overdoses and that's only reported again it's not.

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18456395980: Some people have their own narcan and they didn't end up not calling the police of those 324 56 people passed away in quarks down there were a 97 recorded overdoses and of that there were 15 people that passed away.

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18456395980: And the part that's actually getting pretty concerning for us is that.

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18456395980: We are starting to notice that there is fentanyl being put into marijuana so people are smoking marijuana and thinking that they're only smoking marijuana and they're actually overdosing so that that seems to be a pretty.

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18456395980: Dumping that's happening on the east coast and something that we're pretty concerned about other than that nothing.

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18456395980: Concerning going on in the village, as always anybody has any concerns or problems, please don't hesitate to reach out to me, and if anybody has any questions or concerns.

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18456395980: Go ahead well just I did, I just want to back up a second I forgot to say that i'm here with with said Fred yanni so she said here also.

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18456395980: Anybody have any questions.

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18456395980: or concerns.

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Laurie Dodge: No, thank you.

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18456395980: Okay fantastic you guys have a fantastic rest of the night and i'm also looking forward to going down to the old stone church, I was down there on Tuesday with the Mayor and it's coming along fantastic, and we can hardly wait to have a meeting.

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Karen Tarapata: Thank you, I think it's going to be.

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Michael Esmay: Your live.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Thank you.

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Ken Rothchild: Thank you good.

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Karen Tarapata: Alright treasurer's report.

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Richard Fortunato: Good evening everybody.

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Richard Fortunato: I got a very short report tonight, first, I need a resolution to pay on December 15 the interest on the public improvement bond that's the park 35,004 7188 cents December 15.

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Michael Esmay: solution like.

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Laurie Dodge: laurie.

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Karen Tarapata: olin favorite say I.

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Michael Esmay: Like I.

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Laurie Dodge: lori I.

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Ken Rothchild: And I.

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Jeffrey Epstein: You sure if I.

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Karen Tarapata: Karen I.

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Richard Fortunato: Wonderful okay.

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Richard Fortunato: Few tidbits of information, I gave rockland county $30,461 and 83 cents delinquent tax pairs there are 14 of them rockland county has the information so hopefully well, we will will get the check.

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Richard Fortunato: The bond closed, a few days, I believe, two days after our last meeting closed it the refinancing on closed at 1.2% like we had suspected.

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Richard Fortunato: Everything went very smoothly and everything is is done it's paid off first payment is, I believe January 15 and that bond.

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Richard Fortunato: Last but not least, the financial statements everybody get a copy of the financials.

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Richard Fortunato: I don't see any anomalies in there, I go through them I think they look great and, as usual, if any anybody has any questions you have my cell phone number about the financials.

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Richard Fortunato: that's all I got.

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Karen Tarapata: Oh that's good I like that.

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Jeffrey Epstein: news about the rifai.

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Richard Fortunato: i'm sorry Jeff what a.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Good news about the report.

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Richard Fortunato: 200 200,000 plus over 10 years I mean that's 20 plus thousand dollars a year that was a great yeah it was great we lucked out and 1.2% That was all concerned about interest rates going up the last month, but it's listen I wouldn't fight it not 1.2%.

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Michael Esmay: Was it a bank that took the the bond.

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Richard Fortunato: One we.

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Richard Fortunato: rock something Roth child or not can but rough trial and Cooper are some firm bought the entire.

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Richard Fortunato: The entire 1.7 and change million, and then they went out I just had it today because I just got the fedex package on my desk today they went out and split it up amongst.

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Richard Fortunato: It looked like from the packet maybe 1516 different people split up the one point several people or funds like fidelity right anybody could have bought them at that point split it up, but we're only making one one payment, I mean we obviously have one or you know we're ripping one group.

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Karen Tarapata: To save money where you can.

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Richard Fortunato: Yes, we do.

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Karen Tarapata: Right so i'm just gonna at this point, I just want to give a little bit of information about some of our grant applications.

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Karen Tarapata: That i'm waiting for a call from fema that we are looking to have about $30,000 worth of damage from IDA reimbursed.

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Karen Tarapata: We have our spoke with our assemblyman and he's working on getting us a sidewalk grant which would allow us not only to repair the sidewalk.

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Karen Tarapata: And perhaps widen the road by summit school, but would be, we would be able to repair the sidewalk to the village line so let's let's have our fingers crossed that we get that money and we can move ahead with repairing our sidewalks.

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Karen Tarapata: I haven't heard anything on the transportation grant for the the big sidewalk projects, they probably won't hear anything about that, until December.

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Karen Tarapata: And then, our of dormitory authority are Sam grant for the work on the old stone meeting House we have heard nothing but positive things supposedly the paperwork is on the way.

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Karen Tarapata: They did ask me to do one thing which was we had authorized up to $80,000 for it they're giving us 50 but our actual estimate Kanan is 87 $82,107.

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Karen Tarapata: And they asked me just for a resolution to modify our guarantee that village can cover the extra $2,107 I knew there'd be no problem, but I think it's a good thing to have everything clear and all our paperwork in order so I was going to ask for a resolution.

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Karen Tarapata: to modify our.

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Karen Tarapata: What is it called matching funds for the Sam grant to 82 $82,107 with somebody make that motion.

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Jeffrey Epstein: or move there we modify the Sam grants to the amount of a $2,107 that was from 80,000 3000 so.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay, can I get a second.

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Michael Esmay: Michael second.

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Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye.

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Aye Jeff.

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Michael Esmay: i'm like.

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Ken Rothchild: I can.

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Laurie Dodge: I lori.

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Karen Tarapata: Thank you, I just figured it was the right time it's out of order, but the right time in the flow of things here, which I think that's it does anyone have any other questions for rich.

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Richard Fortunato: Last but not least, this month we're going after the hundred and $19,000 chips money for.

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Richard Fortunato: Was it Palmer what was the road we just paid.

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Richard Fortunato: Yes, that's it so i'm working on that so just to we were doing grants and going after money so we're going to get that hundred 19 back, hopefully, in the next few months okay.

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Jeffrey Epstein: So.

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Karen Tarapata: Thank you Jeff information from nikon about what it will be for next year, so probably by next next month we'll be able to talk about what kind of money will have for paving in 2022.

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Richard Fortunato: Great perfect Thank you all have a great weekend happy thanksgiving.

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Laurie Dodge: rich.

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Karen Tarapata: All right.

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Karen Tarapata: heather do you want to talk about the Nice Community ambulance corps.

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Karen Tarapata: You have that in front of you do you want me to read that.

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Village Clerk: I do not have the letter in front of me, but I am aware of it it's they they want to hold their annual five K on January 2 from 10 o'clock 10am to 11:30am and pending approval, they will send the insurance information and all that goes into.

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Village Clerk: This sort of event.

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Karen Tarapata: Does anyone have any questions about that fun run.

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Laurie Dodge: know.

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Karen Tarapata: Before they've done many times so with someone make a motion to approve their request pending their APP you know their.

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Karen Tarapata: Insurance and all the other horrible requirements.

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Laurie Dodge: It sorry i'll make an emotion that we allow my Community ambulance corps to hold their ninth annual snowflake five K race on January 2 2022 contingent on a receiving their insurance certificate.

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Ken Rothchild: Great can i'll second that motion.

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Karen Tarapata: Right all in favor say Aye.

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Laurie Dodge: Aye laurie.

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Ken Rothchild: Can I.

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Michael Esmay: fly like I care.

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Karen Tarapata: I great so it's a nice thing they do such amazing community service.

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Karen Tarapata: Yes, okay um.

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Karen Tarapata: Resolution for accepting the gift of the Friends of river three 620 park pensions.

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Karen Tarapata: wow they've been collecting donations to put some seating on the property and they're asking for our approval.

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Karen Tarapata: For that, as a gift.

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Karen Tarapata: With someone make a motion to accept that yep and I didn't know if I wanted to put in the amount that they were worth or if that really doesn't concern us, as it is a gift to the village.

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Ken Rothchild: I moved that we accept the gift of six benches, and I remember correctly, for ever ever hook.

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Ken Rothchild: hook.

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Jeffrey Epstein: I will set them to chuck.

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Karen Tarapata: Thanks Jeff all in favor say hi.

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Ken Rothchild: Can I.

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Laurie Dodge: lori I.

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Michael Esmay: Like I.

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Michael Esmay: Do we know what kind of benches, these are, I mean there's.

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Karen Tarapata: Like one by the old stone meeting house.

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Michael Esmay: Well that's a good one.

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Laurie Dodge: Yes.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Very good, three, six, foot cake.

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Laurie Dodge: yeah we can we can get you if you need the brand I forget, I want to say country coastal but I don't think that's country code like.

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Laurie Dodge: I had right dad and.

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Karen Tarapata: that's what I looked up the other tip the value case so i'll probably want to make sure that they're on our insurance, now that they have been gifted to us.

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Michael Esmay: That there are teeth benches, that would not hold up and that's why I was curious with.

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Karen Tarapata: Jacqueline against.

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Michael Esmay: The old stone that's fine.

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Karen Tarapata: it's a beautiful beautiful bench.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay well let's see you got a couple minutes before we even have to adjourn our public hearing of.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, let's go to number 10 parking violations please you know we're preparing our own upper nyack parking tickets.

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Karen Tarapata: And I was working with niles and working with candace in the justice court and looking at our parking fees are violation fees are only $35 and clark's town a parking violation is $50 so I didn't I thought, do we have does anyone have any strong feelings about.

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Karen Tarapata: That about our parking tickets being less punitive than our than the town.

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Michael Esmay: Where does that money go.

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Karen Tarapata: that's a very good question, I think that some of it comes back to us if it is an upper nyack ticket ticket.

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Karen Tarapata: That is a good question, I have to ask that.

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Karen Tarapata: handy will know a breakdown, but no, no here of.

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Karen Tarapata: Money for tickets, mostly you know we just want people to comply wearing, this is not a revenue.

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Karen Tarapata: 35 you might make.

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Karen Tarapata: $200 a year.

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Karen Tarapata: that's not going to you know.

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Michael Esmay: it's why i'm thinking.

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Michael Esmay: Why does it matter.

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Michael Esmay: Unless you think it's going to keep people from illegally parking if it's a higher.

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Michael Esmay: Fine.

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Karen Tarapata: I don't know.

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Karen Tarapata: This is, this is very interesting now the ticket says $25 i'm looking at our ordinance the shows you how out of sync things have been.

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Karen Tarapata: Our man says 35.

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Karen Tarapata: and fire hydrants at 50 So what we actually I have to here we go, we actually did change our fee, and it was never reflected on the ticket.

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Laurie Dodge: So.

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Karen Tarapata: Now I have my work here, I just opened the general ordinance and found the page alright so i'll make sure that our new tickets have the actual our actual fees reflected.

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Karen Tarapata: They probably were never changed since 2008 on we dissolve the Court, we probably someone with a they never knew that we amended the.

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Michael Esmay: heat.

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Karen Tarapata: yeah so let's all right, I will do that, then all right fine for 35 and 50 extra home.

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Laurie Dodge: I will say, and this i'm just surfacing this I don't know how how people would respond to the tickets and I don't obviously Mike hasn't been out and about.

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Laurie Dodge: In that capacity, yet, because he doesn't have his ticket book, but there are, and I also understand the landscaping crews will sort of.

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Laurie Dodge: As as we head into winter, there will be fewer parked on the side of the road all day long, but I just wonder the degree to which that.

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Laurie Dodge: cost will be just a cost of doing business in their mind because it's not really a significant amount of money.

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Laurie Dodge: i'm not I mean i'm definitely not looking to penalize residents I don't that's not the point of my comment I just wonder, you know the the balance of a commercial concern that says well $35 a day, what do I, what do I care i'm charging people you know $80 a man hour.

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Karen Tarapata: I think what actually I think fail.

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Karen Tarapata: don't want to avoid that, but this is also for the people here at Castle heights who parked overnight, or whatever just gatherings where they're they're parked all over the place right next to no parking signs, we had some you know right, I saw that walking weekend or so ago.

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Karen Tarapata: yeah, so I would think that yeah well, maybe.

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Karen Tarapata: We can we can revisit the commercial issue, I think that, right now, we just want to be sure that the ticket reflects what our local law states.

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Laurie Dodge: yeah good place to start okay yeah.

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Karen Tarapata: That was there was changed actually in 2015 and it was never reflected on the actual parking tickets so.

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Karen Tarapata: We will.

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Karen Tarapata: Make sure that happens.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Things mixed up because the first thing to do would be to find out how it is divided up between us and clock So then, so what we want to do as far as fees and stuff then it changes.

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Karen Tarapata: right because we're getting ready to order the parking tickets, we actually the sale chest before Mike they didn't want him to even have the tickets that currently have, like other bmt.

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Karen Tarapata: of violations on it, they thought they thought that that would be a mistake, so if they'll just be upper night parking tickets, we have a different form that's used for all the other violations of the general and zoning ordinance but parking ticket as a parking ticket.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay, I will do that i'll find out that's easy, I hope I will find that out.

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Karen Tarapata: Thank you alright it's 730 and 32.

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Karen Tarapata: We have a jury and our public hearing tonight on the yeshivas business del toro high of application for temporary moratorium variance at our last meeting of the.

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Karen Tarapata: Council to the applicants stated they would come back with a narrative and more information about what they were planning.

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Karen Tarapata: And at the end of business, yesterday we had not received anything so there didn't seem to be a reason to have continuance of the public hearing when there was no, no, nothing to discuss.

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Karen Tarapata: So would somebody make a motion to adjourn this.

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Karen Tarapata: Continuation to our next meeting of December 16.

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Ken Rothchild: i'll make that motion is a correct to say that I moved that we had turned but the we just.

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Karen Tarapata: I guess no well, what is the correct.

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Ken Rothchild: Language yeah giving.

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Noelle Crisalli Wolfson: During the hearing to your meeting of December 16.

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Michael Esmay: I better word be continue.

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Noelle Crisalli Wolfson: All right, either one is fine, either word whichever you're more comfortable with to continue the public hearing to the December 16 meeting would be find a.

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Michael Esmay: word that i'm used to.

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Karen Tarapata: Because i'm thinking we're turning it because we're not taking any public comments tonight, though, and continuing sounds like we're going to do it tonight and next month.

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Noelle Crisalli Wolfson: I think either way you know just provide that it's staying open from the last hearing so whichever word.

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Ken Rothchild: in deference to karen's comfort zone I moved that we adjourn.

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Ken Rothchild: Tonight scheduled.

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Ken Rothchild: public hearing to our next.

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Ken Rothchild: village meeting December 16.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Can I get a second it will stuck on the.

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Karen Tarapata: island in favor say Aye.

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Ken Rothchild: Aye.

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Laurie Dodge: lori I.

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Karen Tarapata: Aaron I.

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Karen Tarapata: OK, the next got an exciting news here is the public hearing for our proposed zoning law we find we have finished the draft is we have posted it on our website, tomorrow there will be hard copies for any of you know any trustee who would rather read it in hard copy form than as a PDF.

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Karen Tarapata: And I would we would like to well let's see know and correct me if i'm wrong here, but we have referred to rockland county planning and are joining of.

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Karen Tarapata: The town of town and nyack and the palisades in the state parkway of Park, we have sent it to them for their review in their comments, but we would like to open the public comment period on December 9 make our workshop meeting a special meeting to just discuss.

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Michael Esmay: This national meeting.

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Karen Tarapata: yeah because we would was actually a meeting it's not a workshop before it's a public hearing.

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Karen Tarapata: And the reason for that is go ahead, well.

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Noelle Crisalli Wolfson: we've referred to rockland county planning and we will give notice to all the other entities that you mentioned as soon as the public hearing is scheduled that rockland county planning is has received it is reviewing it.

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Karen Tarapata: So we want to do, be to make our workshop meeting a public hearing for discussion of the zoning code, because we have this other.

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Karen Tarapata: public hearing continued on December 16 and I think that would be too much to talk about in one meeting both the quest for relief from the moratoria and also introducing a zoning code revision.

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Karen Tarapata: So what do you think i'm asking for you know, a public hearing date for the zoning code law, but we want to hear from you all, what you think.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Think it's a good idea, did we have any other important pending in some workshops related stuff to do on the night.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Okay, with.

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Jeffrey Epstein: me then.

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Karen Tarapata: Set the public hearing.

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Karen Tarapata: For the proposed zoning law December night.

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Jeffrey Epstein: I will move that we set a public hearing date for the proposed zoning law.

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Jeffrey Epstein: For the general public on to somebody as a special meeting.

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Laurie Dodge: i'll second.

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Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Aye dress.

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Laurie Dodge: I lori.

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Ken Rothchild: I can.

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Karen Tarapata: Like Mike did you die.

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Karen Tarapata: i'm Karen.

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Karen Tarapata: Mike yes, no.

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Michael Esmay: Can you hear me now.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Yes.

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Michael Esmay: Now we can tie I haven't heard anything for for over a minute now.

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Karen Tarapata: Oh, I wonder why it requires we made a motion to set the public hearing for the proposed zoning law for December 9 to open the public hearing.

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Michael Esmay: i'd like to make that motion.

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Karen Tarapata: Oh, we made the motion we just want to know if you'll say.

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Michael Esmay: hi.

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Michael Esmay: I don't know what's going on here but.

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Laurie Dodge: it's a full moon.

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Karen Tarapata: and

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Laurie Dodge: let's give credit to the moon.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, i'm application for a.

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Karen Tarapata: temporary moratorium various 536 North Highland avenue that is Item number 11 this is Casa del mar they are, they want us to consider.

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Karen Tarapata: giving them a relief from the moratorium, they have already submitted plans and everything that they submitted them today so i'm just asking that if we can set a public hearing, so we have time to review their request and set the pump that public hearings for December 16.

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Karen Tarapata: So we can look at their request relief.

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Michael Esmay: What exactly are they doing I know we talked about it but.

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Karen Tarapata: i'm not even sure yet we'd have to look at it they're literally their submission came in today.

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Michael Esmay: This is for the new order right uh huh that's their mechanical contractors.

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Karen Tarapata: Great but I haven't I didn't even open the drawings, there was there was because I knew that we weren't going to really have it for tonight's meeting, but we can circulate it then and everyone can look at it and then we'll be able to discuss it at the next meeting.

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Laurie Dodge: So the restaurants not going to be a restaurant anymore.

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Laurie Dodge: Or it is no.

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Karen Tarapata: No it's going to be a hopefully a H back place.

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Karen Tarapata: But we have to see what they're proposing I don't know yet.

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Laurie Dodge: right there why.

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Ken Rothchild: don't Karen uh i'll move that we schedule a public hearing on the application from 536 North broadway.

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Ken Rothchild: Oh sorry North Highland right.

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Ken Rothchild: My bad writing here.

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Ken Rothchild: For December 16 a regular meeting lunch.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Thanks Jeff.

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Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye.

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Ken Rothchild: Can hi.

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Laurie Dodge: lori I.

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Michael Esmay: Like.

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Michael Esmay: Karen I.

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Noelle Crisalli Wolfson: Should just make sure that the applicant knows that there's the notice mailing requirement in advance of that hearing if they don't know they may know already, but there is a notice mailing requirement.

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Karen Tarapata: I just saw the letter, yes, that we had sent to the our other applicants so okay i've got that here on my list or tomorrow.

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Karen Tarapata: Okay, so let's see me last now we have the old stone meeting house audio visual equipment.

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Karen Tarapata: So we.

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Karen Tarapata: You know, did ahead presentations and discussions on our AV equipment for the old style meeting house is there anything anybody else would like to talk about with that any more questions or concerns.

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Karen Tarapata: Then i'd like just to consider which, for you know approving one of the proposals.

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Ken Rothchild: yeah.

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Laurie Dodge: Go ahead sorry can.

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Ken Rothchild: Okay well i'll go first so i'm happy let someone else go first um.

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Ken Rothchild: I you know and just looking at the proposals you know they're both.

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Ken Rothchild: good proposals, obviously, one is approximately half of the cost of another.

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Ken Rothchild: that's a significant consideration and that that one that's half of the other is.

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Ken Rothchild: One put forward by, as he said in our discussion at the last meeting at the last workshop meeting you know by someone who has worked with us for nine years, who knows the village knows us.

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Ken Rothchild: It is a less equipment heavy version.

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Ken Rothchild: which may be more appropriate for what we're going on, and so, in general, my feeling is that that's perhaps a more appropriate bid for our village, although I appreciate about the other bit and it's professionalism and its.

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Ken Rothchild: Presentation of.

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Ken Rothchild: Why, we would want certain professional equipment and installation things resolved through that bid.

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Ken Rothchild: So that's my opinion.

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Jeffrey Epstein: And I would say that I generally generally agree with that, in addition to the fact that I was a little bit surprised to find out what the.

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Jeffrey Epstein: expected life is of the equipment and that's a pretty big amount to take on, but we don't really know what we need, yet, so I think it behooves us to our sort of walk before we run, so I don't see a downside to taking the b&h.

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Jeffrey Epstein: suggestion would be an HR outline and going with that that may work for us fine and if it doesn't we're going to be changing soon enough, no matter which one.

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Michael Esmay: I agree with Jeff.

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Michael Esmay: And really at this stage, the main thing is to be able to have a virtual meeting with a village and.

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Michael Esmay: I don't know I said to occur, and I wish we could even do this for less but.

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Michael Esmay: I don't see that happening so I certainly would support the.

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Michael Esmay: rapper son of it.

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Karen Tarapata: Larry do you have, what do you think.

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Laurie Dodge: i'm just still having trouble reconciling the difference between the prices and and the equipment that was suggested by each party, so I don't.

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Laurie Dodge: um.

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Laurie Dodge: yeah and I don't I don't profess to be an ad expert so i'm.

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Laurie Dodge: yeah i'm a little more conflicted I guess then everybody else.

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Laurie Dodge: Completely appreciating $39,000 is a lot of money for a B and that's not what we're going to spend it's less that and more just what are we, what are we getting for our dollars and and will it be what we need.

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Karen Tarapata: You know, I was thinking part of it was.

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Karen Tarapata: I think the scope, you know it's Mike said, the scope.

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Karen Tarapata: there's a difference between a.

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Karen Tarapata: let's say like an auditorium weird having performances or you're doing trainings.

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Karen Tarapata: For people and what we're really what we really want is for people at home, to be able to see and hear us and people who are in the old stone meeting house.

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Karen Tarapata: To see and hear the remote participants it's a it's a little, let me know that within that milestone meeting house the acoustics are very good it isn't as if we need the amplification for.

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Karen Tarapata: The people who are in the room it's really just access for people who are remote and for people with your do here, to promote people.

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Karen Tarapata: So I would ask that someone make a motion that we accept the bed of way rampersad for.

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Karen Tarapata: The AV proposal.

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Karen Tarapata: And we want to include the the numbers because I do have the numbers.

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Karen Tarapata: I wrote it down his proposal is for.

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Karen Tarapata: It says it comes up to $15,864 so i'm wondering if we want to say, not more than 17 in case we need to buy any additional equipment or 16,000 whatever you.

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Karen Tarapata: What do you think.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Well, I think 5864 is for the equipment and the $10,000 is possibly for his services that correct.

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Karen Tarapata: Right that's what I was gonna say not to exceed the resolution for the whole package.

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Michael Esmay: So it's.

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Michael Esmay: not to exceed.

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The.

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Michael Esmay: end.

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Michael Esmay: Change order.

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Michael Esmay: I mean other equipment you'd have a change order.

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Karen Tarapata: So do you want, do you think a not to exceed is the way to go, Mike.

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Michael Esmay: For Labor yeah.

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Karen Tarapata: Well, the yeah the not to somebody want to just accept the the what we can have two resolutions, we can accept the equipment bid and then we can make a resolution for the.

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Karen Tarapata: Consulting not to exceed 10,000 is, which would be better.

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Karen Tarapata: or.

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Karen Tarapata: or package them up on stage.

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Karen Tarapata: She better not to exceed i'm just asking.

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Michael Esmay: You have a fixed price for the equipment uh huh that's that shouldn't change.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, so yeah so that, when someone make a motion to accept the bit of b&h.

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Karen Tarapata: For the list of equipment, not to exceed $5,860.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Okay, I would like to make a motion that encompasses both of them.

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Jeffrey Epstein: where you want to keep it as two separate motions.

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Michael Esmay: I think it should be one motion.

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Jeffrey Epstein: I agree okay so, then I will say, I move that we accept the b&h equipment paid by not to exceed $5,864 and two cents and accept.

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Jeffrey Epstein: St Louis rampersad.

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Jeffrey Epstein: service and salting the installation it to not exceed $10,000.

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Right.

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Karen Tarapata: Say i'm a.

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Jeffrey Epstein: boy.

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Karen Tarapata: i'm sorry what's gonna second.

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Michael Esmay: I didn't like.

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Karen Tarapata: It all right, so all in favor say Aye.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Aye dress.

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Michael Esmay: i'm like.

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Ken Rothchild: I can.

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Laurie Dodge: i'm going to abstain it's laurie.

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Karen Tarapata: laurie you can be opposed.

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Laurie Dodge: or opposed I guess i'll be opposed, as I just don't I don't.

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Jeffrey Epstein: yeah.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, and what a post Maria post.

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Ken Rothchild: That is done, we, we have to scatter a few non unanimous votes throughout the year just.

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Ken Rothchild: So people don't think we're.

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Ken Rothchild: All the folks oh.

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Laurie Dodge: No, I mean if we had more time i'd love to get a third because I really don't they.

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Laurie Dodge: right there just so different to me that it's hard for me to reconcile.

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Laurie Dodge: How.

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Laurie Dodge: Anyway, that's my own.

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Karen Tarapata: I do think that yeah I did do some research into the mixing equipment, because that seemed to be the, the one that he was most concerned about.

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Karen Tarapata: And I really had no and I did a side by side comparison of the two and I felt that it was for our purposes, it was adequate and I can send that comparison, if someone would like to see that I do have that.

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Karen Tarapata: Alright, so that's done so let's see what else do we have on here, the only thing left on our agenda is an executive session unless somebody has something they want to discuss before we go into executive session.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, I do see that one thing before we go into executive session I do see that Harry better is on tonight.

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Karen Tarapata: Harry I just want Harry had sent me information about a particular sidewalk concrete mix that uses recycled glass instead of sand and it's.

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Karen Tarapata: A looks pretty remarkable I ran it past our village engineer, he said he thought that made a lot of sense, because what is sand, but what is glass but melted sand.

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Karen Tarapata: This concrete has a much lower carbon footprint this concrete is one of the most intensely carbon producing products it's manufactured.

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Karen Tarapata: So he's going.

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Karen Tarapata: Dennis is going to evaluate it and, hopefully, when we do our sidewalks will be able to use this mix, as was suggested by our Green committee.

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Karen Tarapata: But we're just in the early stages we're not doing any sidewalks yet, but I want you to know Harry that we did take it and discuss it with the village engineer.

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Harry Vetter: much appreciated, thank you very much.

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Karen Tarapata: Great alright, so we are going to go into executive session, and at that time you will be bouncing out our other.

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Karen Tarapata: Participants here so what's up someone make a motion to go into executive session.

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Michael Esmay: Oh, my emotion Mike.

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Laurie Dodge: Oh.

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Karen Tarapata: Yes, Kim oh good.

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Karen Tarapata: favor say Aye.

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Michael Esmay: Like I.

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Laurie Dodge: can identify lori I.

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Ken Rothchild: Just sort of make sure everyone knows that lori seconded that.

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Laurie Dodge: oh dear, oh I know it doesn't make a difference.

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Laurie Dodge: On the same page.

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Karen Tarapata: All right, heather can you make a turn on the recording.

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Karen Tarapata: Alright, we are out of executive session, and if there is there any other.

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Karen Tarapata: Business that we'd like to discuss tonight, otherwise i'd asked for someone to take emotion, to end the regular meeting.

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Jeffrey Epstein: I moved there we in tonight's regular meeting of the Board of Trustees.

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Laurie Dodge: i'll second.

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Karen Tarapata: All in favor say Aye Aye.

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Laurie Dodge: Aye laurie.

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Ken Rothchild: I can.

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Michael Esmay: I am like.

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Karen Tarapata: I Karen Thank you everybody.

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Ken Rothchild: Thank you.

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Laurie Dodge: goodnight everyone.

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Jeffrey Epstein: Well done.

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Ken Rothchild: Night everybody.

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bye.